Talk:Killing of Eric Garner: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

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*'''Strong support''' for reasons of both accuracy and consistency. — [[User:Peleio Aquiles|Peleio Aquiles]] ([[User talk:Peleio Aquiles|talk]]) 23:36, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

*'''Oppose'''. "Death" is more neutral. As noted by [[User:Bagumba|Bagumba]] at [[Talk:Shooting of David McAtee]], dictionaries typically define ''killing'' as being an ''intentional'' act to cause death, as found at [https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/killing this link]. It is not completely clear (or at least was apparently not clear to a grand jury) that Mr Garner's death was intentional. Wikipedia should not appear to express an opinionated judgment about people's actions. —[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 02:30, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

*:I disagree that this is a comparable case: this article uses a passive voice to begin with. "Shooting of" vs "Killing of" on the other hand is fairly semantic. The emphasis is still the same in either case there, either David McAtee was killed, or David McAtee was shot to death. Neither proposed title says that David simply died. I furthermore disagree with the idea that dictionaries "typically" define killing as an intentional act, every dictionary that I can find simply defines "kill" as "to cause the death of". It's not about intent, it's about cause. --[[User:Unionhawk|Unionhawk]] ^{[[User talk:Unionhawk|Talk]]} 04:29, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

===Discussion===

*'''Comment''' I've noticed that, already, there have been several allegations that this move request or its supporters have not been in good faith. I would encourage all participants to [[WP:GF|assume good faith]] and focus discussion on the topic at hand. [[User:BirdValiant|BirdValiant]] ([[User talk:BirdValiant|talk]]) 05:16, 3 June 2020 (UTC)