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Do we differentiate between English and US-centric spellings? The US spelling is saber. Should we have an article that redirects to sabre, or just indicate that it is spelled differently in Leftpondia? -- Zoe
Szabla
Why in an English-language resource would the English term be merged with a Hungarian term that is never used in English? The link on Szablya should be plenty connection enough. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LINKBook (talk • contribs) .
Sabre
Note that the -pedia has both the US and the "other English speakers'" spelling for saber saw amid the discussion for jigsaw. A search for "saber saw" took me there. But a search for "sabre saw" brought me only to this sword entry. A system of cross references would indeed be helpful. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LINKBook (talk • contribs) .
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What the heck is a Zsblaya? Or whatever it's called? Nobody is going to search for that. It's bad enough having the page named "sabre" instead of "saber"...but this?
The Cavalry Saber and the "infantry"(/officer-style) sabre are two very different things, both in spelling and in use. The Cavalry saber would be used with the horse in a continuous charge (for as long as possible) in either a fluid slashing movement, or as a stabbing weapon in which the point goes in and is twisted (to escape the suction effect of the body tissue) and then pulled out, leaving the corpse behind. When the horse is stationary, the blade would be merely hacked down upon the enemy. THe "infantry" sabre would be used often in one on one combat with parrying etc in the usual fencing style. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.136.201.209 (talk) 17:57, August 25, 2007 (UTC)
Flameviper12 15:23, 10 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
Sabre
There should still be separate pages because the two are slightly different, just to keep the Wikipedia as diverse as possible, if nothing else. It's interesting to find these things when you're searching random articles an such. Oh, and by the way, "sabre" IS the proper spelling. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Linkmask77 (talk • contribs) .
- keep: Sabre or saber is the english term that would be most likely used in a search, I can't see a merge with Szabla as being useful, if anything it could be the other way. It's listed under See also so time to move on — Graibeard (talk) 09:57, 1 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
Closed as a keep This debate was kicked off on 25 April 2006 with LINKbooks comment above, the merge template was added on 07:40, 13 February 2006 Yakudza (Talk | contribs) (merge with Szabla) — Graibeard (talk) 09:57, 1 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
The word saber or sabre is from the Hungarian SZABNI, i.e. "to tailor." The term evolved from the orginal sarcastic usage "to tailor" i.e. 'szab-ni" one's opponent. The saber or "szabja" was orginally the weapon of the LIGHT cavalry, (see HUSSARS, another Hungarian term i.e. HUSZAR) while the heavy cavalry (DRAGOONS, CUIRASSIERS,)more often used the PALLASH, (or PALLOS,) a straight, single or sometimes double edged blade frequently with a rounded point. The sabre was primarily a slashing weapon and as the article correctly notes it probably evolved from the Persian SHAMSHIR. The Hungarian language is full of words of Persian/Turkish orgin for all that iit is being classified as a Finno-Ugrian language. The Hungarian word for sword is KARD which is also the Persian word for a single edged, rigid backed cutting/thrusting weapon. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.146.62.11 (talk) 03:49, 10 February 2007 (UTC).Reply
The word saber or sabre is from the Hungarian SZABNI, i.e. "to tailor." The term evolved from the orginal sarcastic usage "to tailor" i.e. 'szab-ni" one's opponent. The saber or "szabja" was orginally the weapon of the LIGHT cavalry, (see HUSSARS, another Hungarian term i.e. HUSZAR) while the heavy cavalry (DRAGOONS, CUIRASSIERS,)more often used the PALLASH, (or PALLOS,) a straight, single or sometimes double edged blade frequently with a rounded point. The sabre was primarily a slashing weapon and as the article correctly notes it probably evolved from the Persian SHAMSHIR. The Hungarian language is full of words of Persian/Turkish orgin for all that iit is being classified as a Finno-Ugrian language. The Hungarian word for sword is KARD which is also the Persian word for a single edged, rigid backed cutting/thrusting weapon. With all respect due to Lt. much later Gen. George S66.146.62.11 04:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC). Patton,) the rigid, straight bladed weapon he called the "saber" is properly called a TOR (put two right-hand slashes over the "o" in the word) and was supposedly first evolved by the Czehs (Bohemians?) to defeat mail armor sometime in the twelth-thirteenth centuries.)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.146.62.11 (talk) 03:49, 10 February 2007 (UTC).Reply
Saber is also a GDS(Global Distribution System) which provide solutions to Airline,Hotels,Car etc.
This is quite unclear from the article. I'd always thought of a sabre as being a thinnish curved sword used by cavalry. But the picture of the straight officers' sabre in this article, and the article on the Brtish 1908 cavalry sabre, make it clear that a sabre can be straight. So what distinguishes a sabre from any other sword? If anyone has a clear definition, it would be good to add this to the article. KiwiBiggles 05:39, 25 September 2007 (UTC)Reply
The article doesn't mention what Stachowski's alternative etymology is. Lisa the Sociopath (talk) 13:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)Reply
Why does this article state that the sabre is descended from the backsword which is a term for a later period sword? The article itself states that it's descended from either the Falchion or (more likely) the turkish sabre. I'm editing that out and when I get my hands on some decent source material I'll add something better. Master z0b (talk) 08:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
- Master, you may be correct about the contradiction on origins concerning backswords, so revert if you can confirm your point. But it would be incorrect to assert that all sabers are single edged, as the article's second sentence clearly points out. Jack Bethune (talk) 12:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)Reply