Talk:Surface-supplied diving - Wikipedia


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Section size for Surface-supplied diving (61 sections)
Section name Byte
count		 Section
total
(Top) 2,566 2,566
Variations 151 6,084
Surface oriented diving 635 5,620
Scuba replacement 848 848
Standard diving dress 431 431
Air-line diving 2,481 2,481
Bell bounce diving 1,225 1,225
Saturation diving 313 313
Alternatives 846 846
Application 889 889
History 3,691 3,691
Equipment 2,362 43,447
Breathing apparatus 347 9,551
Helmets 5,826 5,826
Band mask 1,018 1,018
Full-face mask 2,360 2,360
Breathing gas supply 28 19,996
Diver's umbilical 1,398 1,398
Air-line 3,488 3,488
Gas panel 4,367 5,417
Pneumofathometer 1,050 1,050
Low-pressure breathing air compressor 1,709 1,709
High pressure main gas supply 1,452 1,452
Decompression gas 1,058 1,058
High-pressure reserve gas 1,357 1,357
Bailout gas supply 4,089 4,089
Diver's harness 347 3,398
Jacket harness 1,038 1,038
Bell harness 349 349
Harness with buoyancy compensation 486 486
Buoyancy control 1,178 1,178
Weight systems 522 2,675
Weight belts 239 239
Weight harnesses 643 643
Trim weights 167 167
Weighted boots 1,104 1,104
Environmental protection 2,475 2,475
Communications system 1,041 2,990
Diver's telephone 1,253 1,253
Video 357 357
Wireless systems 339 339
Equipment maintenance and testing 316 316
Diving spread 1,493 3,097
Air spread 924 924
Saturation spread 680 680
Diving procedures 521 14,474
The working diver 223 9,584
Preparation for diving 4,630 4,630
Diving heavy 1,156 1,156
Emergency procedures 2,602 2,602
Wet bell and stage emergency procedures 973 973
Standby diver 2,685 2,685
Bellman 309 309
Underwater tending point 1,375 1,375
Occupational health and safety issues 5,137 5,137
Compressor diving 2,615 2,615
Training and registration 632 632
See also 367 367
Notes 32 32
References 31,293 31,293
External links 892 892
Total 116,378 116,378

Commercial surface supplied standard is a compressor not a "cylinder". A compressed gas (usually air unless it is saturation diving) tank is often used a backup (secondary air) however it is not usually the primary when there is a tender (somebody attending to the diver on the surface). So if the "cylinder supplying the umbilical is exhausted it can be removed and replaced with a full one at the surface" it is implied there is a tender. Compressed air tanks (usually scuba tanks) on a hooka are used for small(often solo) operations, such as boat hull cleaning. However there is rarely a tender. Even in snuba there is not usually going to be a tender available to change the tanks. Since this type of diving does not use coms (a diver tender communication device) there would not be anyway of knowing if the diver was out of air. I do admit the scenario described by this statement is theoretically possible, however the required situation is very much not the norm. This last sentence should be amended.Landrycameron (talk) 05:02, 11 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

A surface-supplied system known in commercial diving as scuba replacement uses high pressure storage cylinders to supply the gas panel with primary and secondary air, and heliox is generally supplied from banks of HP cylinders, but Landrycameron is essentially correct about the usual surface supply of breathing air. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 05:05, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

A merge of Compressor diving into Surface-supplied diving is suggested:

  1. Compressor diving is a subset of Surface-supplied diving.
  2. Compressor diving, though rather different in detail, is not sufficiently different to requre a separate article.
  3. Compressor diving article is small and likely to remain small.

Peter (Southwood) (talk): 16:42, 29 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

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    2. There are still a large number of uncited paragraphs, but most of the material is uncontroversial, and should be fairly easy to source. Those left are mostly fairly obvious and uncontroversial but proving slow to find, so I am going to promote.  
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    7. Looks OK to me, but I have the technical background. Other opinions welcome.  

Needs more citations, but as this should not be difficult, will delay promotion until there are fewer citations needed. I will get back to this, but assistance would be welcomed. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 11:28, 26 September 2016 (UTC) Better now, so promoting, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 14:40, 27 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

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The article is fairly large, and the biggest section Surface supplied diving#Equipment could reasonably be split out as a stand-alone article Surface-supplied diving equipment, for which there is already a redirect with possibilities. The topic is notable under WP:GNG and I consider the split uncontroversial. A similar situation exists with other diving modes and their equipment: Scuba set and scuba diving are the most obvious example. The related snorkeling and snorkel (swimming) are a similar case. The split out article would have the potential for considerable expansion, and there are already articles that could be considered detail subtopics of surface supplied equipment. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 14:07, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

The content of the equipment section has been used to start Surface-supplied diving equipment, and I have started to condense the content of that section in this article to the appropriate level of detail. This may take a while. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 15:47, 8 January 2024 (UTC)Reply