Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/João Morelli - Wikipedia
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Meets NFOOTY, just joined another FPL club, sourcing in article indicates a degree of non routine coverage as well. Fenix down (talk) 14:30, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Hasn't played in a fully professional league, no evidence they pass WP:NFOOTY or WP:GNG Joseph2302 (talk) 07:10, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - He made nine appearances and two goals in the Copa for Ituano, which is in fully pro Campeonato Paulista against other clubs from fully pro leagues. See his Soccerway Profile. Also, he meets WP:GNG. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 07:22, 7 August 2020 (UTC)— Note to closing admin: Das osmnezz (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]
- This rationale is misleading at best - please see my comment below about how this cup competition is not a competition among clubs from fully-pro leagues (and how only 1 of those 9 matches would potentially qualify). Jogurney (talk) 16:26, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep - has played in two fully professional leagues, so meets criteria #2 of WP:NFOOTY. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 08:34, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Curb Safe Charmer No he hasn't- the only league appearances he's made are for FCI Levadia Tallinn, who don't play in an FPL. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:53, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Ahh, so Meistriliiga is not fully professional, and while signed he hasn't played yet for HFX Wanderers FC due to COVID. Struck vote. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 09:14, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, it's listed in WP:NOTFPL as a top division that isn't fully professional (otherwise I wouldn't have nominated this article). Joseph2302 (talk) 09:33, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @Joseph2302:, @Curb Safe Charmer:, He made nine appearances and two goals in the Copa for Ituano, which is in fully pro Campeonato Paulista against other clubs from fully pro leagues. See his Soccerway Profile. Also, he meets WP:GNG. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 10:29, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- He doesn't meet WP:GNG, as almost all the sources listed are primary sources from clubs he's played for. And as for that cup, I'm not convinced by the logic behind teams playing in "fully pro cup games". Joseph2302 (talk) 10:32, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @Joseph2302:, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 are not primary sources. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 18:06, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- He doesn't meet WP:GNG, as almost all the sources listed are primary sources from clubs he's played for. And as for that cup, I'm not convinced by the logic behind teams playing in "fully pro cup games". Joseph2302 (talk) 10:32, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @Joseph2302:, @Curb Safe Charmer:, He made nine appearances and two goals in the Copa for Ituano, which is in fully pro Campeonato Paulista against other clubs from fully pro leagues. See his Soccerway Profile. Also, he meets WP:GNG. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 10:29, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, it's listed in WP:NOTFPL as a top division that isn't fully professional (otherwise I wouldn't have nominated this article). Joseph2302 (talk) 09:33, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Ahh, so Meistriliiga is not fully professional, and while signed he hasn't played yet for HFX Wanderers FC due to COVID. Struck vote. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 09:14, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep - appears to meet NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 14:30, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep – several of his appearances in the Copa Paulista are enough to meet NFOOTY, and several of the sources in the external links section look like the required quality to meet GNG. Keskkonnakaitse (talk) 15:49, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep passes WP:NFOOTY.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 11:19, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Article about semi-pro footballer who made 1 substitute's appearance in the 2018 Copa Paulista against a club from the Campeonato Paulista Serie A1 (Novorizontino). Keeping in mind that the Copa Paulista is a state cup (not a national cup) contested by only a few of the Paulista A1 clubs and several A2 and A3 clubs, it would be a huge stretch to claim that the single substitute's appearance in the competition between two Paulista A1 clubs is enough to satisfy NFOOTBALL (his other 8 appearances were against clubs from A2 or A3). In any case, I don't see significant coverage in reliable sources, so this article fails the GNG. Jogurney (talk) 16:20, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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