Talk:Holodomor denial: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

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:You’re right that the source and statement don’t go together well. I don’t believe this was what I originally wrote in the article either. I believe this is my preferred edit and version (after a quick search of the history):[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Holodomor_denial&diff=1140581003&oldid=1140474133]

:: '''Holodomor denial''' ( . . . ) is the claim that the [[Holodomor]], a 1932–33 man-made [[famine]] that killed millions in [[Soviet Ukraine]],<ref></ref> did not occur,<ref name="regime">[Pipes]</ref><ref name="Radzinsky">[Radzkinsy]</ref><ref name="reflections">[Conquest]</ref> or (especially since evidence of its existence became public in the 1980s) the diminishment of its scale and significance,<ref>{{Cite web |last=The Library of Congress |title=Holodomor denial, LC Linked Data Service: Authorities and Vocabularies |url=https://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh2009005520.html |access-date=2023-01-16 |website=Library of Congress}}</ref><ref name= Dobczansky_2009>{{cite journal|title=Affirmation and Denial: Holodomor-related Resources Recently Acquired by the Library of Congress|last=Dobczansky|first=Jurij|journal=Holodomor Studies|volume=1|issue=2 [Summer-Autumn 2009]|date=2009|pages=155–164|url= https://www.academia.edu/28799900}}</ref> including the [[Genocide denial|claim that it was not a genocide]].<ref name="serbyn" >[Serbyn]</ref>

:I think the last twothree sources directly support the statements. The LOC gives the definition of Holodomor denial, and the Dobczansky paper discusses it in a secondary source. The Serbyn article discusses denial of the genocidal nature. These should be satisfactory at least to support the text. If you insist on more sources, I can try to find them.

:I think this is necessary, because without this the definition “ Holodomor denial . . . is the claim that the Holodomor . . . did not occur” is completely inadequate and compromises the article. Deniers have stopped claiming that no famine occurred since the 1980s. But they continue to be active and there is so much written by them and about them that LOC created two new subject headings in 2009. So our definition should not leave this out.

:Regarding “It's not helped by being reprinted by a blog”: the source[http://www.infoukes.com/history/famine/serbyn/] is not a blog entry. It’s a republished text that’s cited at the bottom: