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::::@{{u|Volunteer Marek}} I'm sorry Marek but here I am going to disagree with you. First: disagreements are ok, to discuss them incivilly and just in order to intimidate the others is '''not'''. Second: who is the one that is really following the other? For example, my first edit in the [[Warsaw Pact]] is at 23:08, 29 July 2013 [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Warsaw_Pact&oldid=566351347], yours is at 21 October 2015 [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Warsaw_Pact&oldid=686834949] and you came only to revert my old edits [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Warsaw_Pact&type=revision&diff=686835673&oldid=681368955] while in the same moment you deleted all of my old edits in [[The Harvest of Sorrow]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Harvest_of_Sorrow&type=revision&diff=686834541&oldid=684889466] while discussing there with me. As the two articles are totally unrelated, this means you took a look to my contribs and then you engaged in a ravaged deletion of my past edits you disliked (and you even used the excuse of "suspect copyvio" in the [[Warsaw Pact]] article. My source was not an english book, so I could not copy anything, in that case I had rewritten all in my words). I tell you, I perceive (and I perceived) this not only as a form of [[WP:HARASSMENT]] but also as [[WP:WIKIHOUNDING]] made towards me.

::::But I'm glad you now realized we could perfectly discuss in a civil way and understand each other, we could have it done that also in that occasion. I believe that if we all take in consideration each other thoughts and we respect each other than a solution is always available. For example see this: [[Wikipedia:Writing for the opponent]], perhaps me too I am still not able to do that, but probably Wikipedia is all about this. -- [[User:Flushout1999|Flushout1999]] ([[User talk:Flushout1999|talk]]) 22:09, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

:::::Sad enough, it seems many wikipedia users judge the others' actions not on what actually a specific user (in this case VM) have done towards the others but basing their comments only on the fact if they are friends of VM or if they share his POV: assuming bad faith, being uncivil, diminish the other editors, being rude and insulting is perfectly acceptable when done by a "friend" or by someone who share the same POV on certain topics.

:::::Delete most of others' edits without discussing, as VM usually does, because "it is POV crap (from other users)" it means simply that wikipedia will be left only with what is good according to VM's point of view. Still "POV crap (from VM and others)" will be left and everyone can see it.

:::::This is totally embarrassing because in [[WP:UNDUE]] (examples from Jimbo Wales) and [[WP:NPOV]] is perfectly explained how facts/opinions from [[WP:RS|sources]] have to be reported correctly in the articles. Instead to discuss in order to achieve neutrality following the rules, VM chooses the option on being uncivil, insulting and delete everything which is not according to his POV, failing to [[WP:OTHERSOPINION|put aside his personal prejudices and beliefs]].

:::::Again, VM being blocked or not is not what is important here (and I personally don't care), what is important is that a great amount of users appear simply unable to understand something so easy like what is the [[WP:5P|base of everything here]] and fail to communicate and collaborate with the other users in a [[WP:CIV|civil way]].

:::::PS: Just a final comment: not everyone is plenty of time to spend here on wikipedia. There is also life outside wikipedia: work (because money do not come from writing here), family, real affections, just simply '''real life'''. To make an argument about people not being present here every time, every day, every hour, is really ludicrous. Not everyone is so "fortunate" to be able to stay here in WP permanently, but yes again, let's assume bad faith because one does not have the time to stay here everyday in front of a computer. -- [[User:Flushout1999|Flushout1999]] ([[User talk:Flushout1999|talk]]) 13:42, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

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