Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-04/Humour - Wikipedia

• I'm sorry, wherein does the humour lie? Bishonen | tålk 14:46, 5 December 2023 (UTC).Reply

  I don't get it either. What's with the sunscreen? – bradv 15:04, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

  I'm also lost. I don't see the point of this. Doug Weller talk 17:04, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

  As in, "Mandy Rice Davis Applies [X-brand of sunscreen]". It's a crap joke, and not getting it makes you stronger human beings. ——Serial 17:15, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

• I told you guys it was a worthless shitpost, you didn't believe me and clicked anyway, you deserve what you get! I used all the actual jokes for this issue in Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-04/Comix. jp×g🗯️ 21:43, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
• This is far worse than bad humor. It's a voyeuristic attack on a woman, ridiculing her and denying her even the right to defend herself. Wikipedia is not a personal blog. This offensive content should be taken down.--agr (talk) 21:47, 6 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

What? jp×g🗯️ 22:31, 6 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, what? Tim O'Doherty (talk) 22:53, 6 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

"a voyeuristic attack on a woman, ridiculing her and denying her even the right to defend herself" Hey, bro, I hope she sees this. Chris Troutman (talk) 03:42, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Mandy Rice-Davies died in 2014, Chris troutman. I agree with agr that the "humour" leaves a bad taste. Bishonen | tålk 04:21, 7 December 2023 (UTC).Reply

This seems to have caused a gratuitous amount of offense, including being blanked for a speedy deletion request not once but twice. I can understand not thinking it's funny — I would put it in the bottom decile of jokes I've made — but I have asked numerous times and failed to get any sort of explanation of the offense going on here. I asked some of my friends in real life, ranging across various ages and genders and political inclinations etc, to read this and see what the problem was (perhaps "Rice-Davies" is some kind of ethnic slur I've never heard about) and none of them could figure it out either. Nobody has been able, hitherto, to explain how "applying to a job" or "applying sunscreen" constitute any sort of attack on anybody's character.

It's really not that complicated of a joke.

I don't know, maybe this is my cow tools moment, but I am somewhat disturbed by the idea that if a joke isn't funny, it must actually be some kind of secret other joke, which is extremely offensive but also for some reason nobody can be bothered to explain how or why. What are you people talking about? jp×g🗯️ 04:42, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

If there has been "a speedy deletion request not once but twice", maybe that should raise a question mark in the thought process. If there is something that is upsetting people, it doesn't matter whether you see it as a problem or not: others do and it may be the easier and more peaceful path to delete this and move on. (For me, despite re-reading this three times, there's zero humour in this, which is probably as good a reason as any for deleting it). I'd be happy to add a speedy deletion request to give it a third strike if you'd like? - SchroCat (talk) 09:42, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Okay, so, to be clear, you are suggesting that an article must be retracted, out of process, if any random person says it should -- and not only that, but also that they do not even need to say a reason?

It has already been tagged (by the same person) twice and declined. Please feel free to take this to MfD, with the rationale of "I refuse to disclose a reason for why this needs to be deleted". jp×g🗯️ 10:17, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply