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The [https://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-05-20/up-to-100000-killed-in-sri-lankas-civil-war-un/1689524 source] which you use to emphatically claim that 80,000-100,000 were killed was published before the full horrors of the final months of the war became known. The fact is that a figure of 80,000 killed was being quoted in reliable sources in 2008 before the war escalated (e.g. [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jun/29/srilanka Guardian]). As the [https://www.crisisgroup.org/asia/south-asia/sri-lanka/sri-lanka-landslide-win-rajapaksa-puts-democracy-and-pluralism-risk International Crisis Group] makes clear, the final months of the civil war saw in tens of thousands of ''civilian'' deaths. The [[Report of the Secretary-General's Panel of Experts on Accountability in Sri Lanka|UN Panel]] found that as many as 40,000 ''civilians'' may have been killed in final stages of the war (September 2008 to May 2009). This excludes thousands of SL military personnel and LTTE cadres. For the record, I have not only read the UN panel report, I wrote the Wikipedia article.--[[Special:Contributions/Obi2canibe|Obi2canibe]] ([[User talk:Obi2canibe|talk)]] 18:19, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

:{{ping|Obi2canibe}} Firstly, thank you for finally joining the discussion on the Talk page. Secondly, name-calling is unhelpful in a discussion. Thirdly, what you find "unbelievable" due to your Point of View is not relevant. You can disagree with the official UN estimate. However, you can not simply pretend that it doesn't exist.

:I'm not claiming that 80,000 to 100,000 were killed. I'm stating that it is the official UN estimate. I hope you understand the difference. Don't assume that the team that was calculating the estimate didn't have access to sources that knew exactly what was happening at the time. The author of the Guardian article you cite is a "TV critic" and does not mention anything about a UN estimate.

:Please re-read the UN Panel report. You have mixed up the time periods and casualty numbers. Firstly, the time period, August 2008 up to 13 May 2009 relates to the 7,721 verified casualty count by the UN Country Team. The quote, "a number of credible sources have estimated that there could have been as many as 40,000 civilian deaths" appears to refer to the period January 2009 to May 2009.

:Furthermore, please note your edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sri_Lankan_Civil_War&oldid=1009458455 1009458455] is [[WP:EW]] and perhaps even [[WP:VD]]. It introduces the following errors:

:# You removed a "Citation needed" without providing a citation.

:# You re-introduced [[WP:VD]] made by an IP address. No citations provided. The existing citation directly contradicts the edit.

:# Again, for no reason, your edit removed 2 citations to articles by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (2011) and the British Broadcasting Corporation (2014).

:# Again, your edit removed the citation and the hyperlink to the UN Panel report.

:# Again, you have attributed a quote to the wrong entity.

:# The UN Panel report was published in 2011, not 2013.

:Please do a self-reversion. [[User:Jayingeneva|Jayingeneva]] ([[User talk:Jayingeneva|talk]]) 01:34, 3 March 2021 (UTC)