Talk:Stacey Abrams - Wikipedia
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This is not a correct use of the term, which means "A perennial candidate is a political candidate who frequently runs for public office without a reasonable chance of winning. The term is the opposite of an incumbent politician who repeatedly defends their seat successfully. In the U.S., perennial candidates are usually affiliated with third party politics." (Wikipedia)
The term is often used in the pejorative and I suspect this is the case here. In any event, the label is not an accurate description of the subject. JimmyZuma (talk) 21:52, 14 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
- Agreed. Thanks for spotting that. I've removed it. Generalrelative (talk) 22:05, 14 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
- A quick Google search turned up at least four sources that have applied this term to Abrams:
- https://hudson.house.gov/media/enewsletters/unmask-our-kids
- https://newsouthpolitics.com/2022/09/20/stacey-abrams-still-trails-kemp-even-in-ajc-poll/
- https://san.com/opinions/georgias-election-laws-falsely-accused-of-voter-suppression/
- https://www.commentary.org/noah-rothman/where-trumps-endorsement-won-republicans-are-losing/
- I think the label merits inclusion. Pecopteris (talk) 05:40, 17 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
- Would you consider those to be high quality sources? Enough to make an unattributed statement in Wikivoice? Generalrelative (talk) 14:24, 17 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
- No, not quite enough for an unattributed Wikivoice statement in the first sentence. That's a bridge too far, even if they were high-quality sources and we could use Wikivoice, it wouldn't be desirable to start the article with such a tone. My view is that we have overcorrected here. We can't completely decline to include it merely because "the term is often used in the pejorative" or "the label is not an accurate description of the subject". I don't see how those arguments pass muster. Pecopteris (talk) 21:52, 17 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
- But the text that I removed as suggested above simply called her a
perennial candidate
in Wikivoice. Are you suggesting that we include new language likeAccording to X, Y, and Z, Abrams is a "perennial candidate"
? I'm not convinced that that adds any encyclopedic value to the article. Generalrelative (talk) 22:42, 17 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
- But the text that I removed as suggested above simply called her a
- No, not quite enough for an unattributed Wikivoice statement in the first sentence. That's a bridge too far, even if they were high-quality sources and we could use Wikivoice, it wouldn't be desirable to start the article with such a tone. My view is that we have overcorrected here. We can't completely decline to include it merely because "the term is often used in the pejorative" or "the label is not an accurate description of the subject". I don't see how those arguments pass muster. Pecopteris (talk) 21:52, 17 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
- Would you consider those to be high quality sources? Enough to make an unattributed statement in Wikivoice? Generalrelative (talk) 14:24, 17 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Abrams's second novel published in her name (second in the Avery Keene series) needs to be added in the book section of her page and also on the While Justice Sleeps page. 173.68.86.145 (talk) 02:56, 24 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I don’t have sufficient expertise to suggest how, but the Kessler fact checking article cited to in this entry contains claims that in the underlying sources he’s citing to. The one that stands out to me is the claim that Abrams stated she won the election, but if you follow the links to what he’s citing for that, she’s just talking about the success of her campaign in expanding the electorate, not that she received more votes in the election. If the Kessler claim stays in, that context should be added. Yohannanx (talk) 19:23, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
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In the section about Abrams' position on Israel it references when she voted against 'Georgia's anti-BDS legislation' but it links to a Wikipedia page about the federal anti-BDS legislation, called 'Israel Anti-Boycott Act' which I believe is slightly misleading. Could you change it to reference Georgia's SB 327 legislation and then just mention how it is similar to the federal legislation? LatestEdits (talk) 01:23, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Done: I changed the in-text wikilink to Anti-BDS laws#Georgia where Georgia's SB 327 legislation is mentioned. Left guide (talk) 02:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply