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- I might be interested in the COI queue if I knew more exactly what it was and what the job entails. Is there a page about it? Bishonen | tålk 12:05, 3 October 2024 (UTC).Reply
- WP:COIVRT is the link :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 12:08, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Thank you. I was interested, but grappling with all that legalese, especially this one, has put me off, I'm afraid. Life's too short. I don't suppose there's an executive summary? Bishonen | tålk 12:38, 3 October 2024 (UTC).Reply
- @Bishonen In a nutshell, people send reports of suspected UPE etc based on information that can't be posted on the wiki. You need to sign a couple of things to be allowed access but they're fairly standard NDAs that basically amount to a promise not to publicly disclose information you gleaned because of that access. Hope tyat helps but happy to clarify further if needed. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:59, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Thanks, Harry, sorry to be so unfamiliar with these apparently standard things (not standard in my world). The most worrying part is that I can't figure whether I'm required to provide my real name, as the central concept of "signing" isn't any too clear to me. Bishonen | tålk 13:06, 3 October 2024 (UTC).Reply
- You can sign with your screen name (I did). Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 13:09, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Thanks Barkeep. Yes, the WMF does not require you to submit personal information these days. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:33, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Yes, thanks, Barkeep49, that part's OK then. But, Harry, I don't understand how it works once the evidence is in. Suppose the information received is convincing, does a COI VRT member - as it might be, me - then block the UPE? But I can't tell the UPE what the evidence against them is, can I, as that would be outing. So how can the UPE appeal the block, or even know what they're supposed to have done? Or would I tell them off-wiki (=per e-mail)? (I worry about outing all the time.) Bishonen | tålk 17:36, 3 October 2024 (UTC).Reply
- When you block the user based on private evidence submitted to any queue, you provide the ticket number in the block rationale. Otherwise, the actual block issued is for promotion usually, which is the actual issue. Izno (talk) 17:41, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
- I'm a big advocate of just blocking for spam/advertising or something else that's obvious where possible. If the edits are too subtle for that, there's the option to block for UPE and cite a ticket number, which can then be reviewed by anyone with access to the queue. To be honest, I don't know offhand how often that happens HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:34, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
- When you block the user based on private evidence submitted to any queue, you provide the ticket number in the block rationale. Otherwise, the actual block issued is for promotion usually, which is the actual issue. Izno (talk) 17:41, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
- You can sign with your screen name (I did). Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 13:09, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Thanks, Harry, sorry to be so unfamiliar with these apparently standard things (not standard in my world). The most worrying part is that I can't figure whether I'm required to provide my real name, as the central concept of "signing" isn't any too clear to me. Bishonen | tålk 13:06, 3 October 2024 (UTC).Reply
- @Bishonen In a nutshell, people send reports of suspected UPE etc based on information that can't be posted on the wiki. You need to sign a couple of things to be allowed access but they're fairly standard NDAs that basically amount to a promise not to publicly disclose information you gleaned because of that access. Hope tyat helps but happy to clarify further if needed. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:59, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Thank you. I was interested, but grappling with all that legalese, especially this one, has put me off, I'm afraid. Life's too short. I don't suppose there's an executive summary? Bishonen | tålk 12:38, 3 October 2024 (UTC).Reply
- WP:COIVRT is the link :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 12:08, 3 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
- I might be interested in the COI queue if I knew more exactly what it was and what the job entails. Is there a page about it? Bishonen | tålk 12:05, 3 October 2024 (UTC).Reply