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::{{reply to| Marquardtika}} I really appreciate your kindness and help, not only regarding my bio, but also work re Women in Red, I'm supporting such efforts, including a similar one via the Smithsonian. Many thanks! [[User:Cnewmark|Cnewmark]] ([[User talk:Cnewmark|talk]]) 12:07, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

::{{reply to| Marquardtika}} I really appreciate your kindness and help, not only regarding my bio, but also work re Women in Red, I'm supporting such efforts, including a similar one via the Smithsonian. Many thanks! [[User:Cnewmark|Cnewmark]] ([[User talk:Cnewmark|talk]]) 12:07, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

== Career section rewrite ==

Folks, Craig Newmark here. I have a draft here of the ''Career'' section updated and rewritten. If any editors are available to review, I'd appreciate it. My hope is to build up the section with additional appropriate context and sourcing.

{{reply to|Marquardtika}} Since you reviewed my last section draft, I thought you might be interested in taking a look at this one, as well.


A couple of things to note:

#I've actually retired completely from craigslist and no longer respond to Customer Service inquiries. That hasn't been reported yet, so I have not included it in the draft. [https://www.craigslist.org/about/craig_newmark my profile] on craigslist does mention this. Do you think it is reasonable to add this information? I understand if the answer is no.

#Should there be additional boards I serve on mentioned? There are others that I have primary sourcing for, such as [https://bobwoodrufffoundation.org/team/craig-newmark/ the Bob Woodruff Foundation] and [https://www.thecity.nyc/pages/board-of-directors The City]. Do you think these, or others, are appropriate to include? Again, I understand if the answer is no.


:{{ping|Cnewmark}} I think the first modification is appropriate. Adding more boards would probably be worthwhile as well. [[User:Dwightny7|Dwightny7]] ([[User talk:Dwightny7|talk]]) 17:00, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Below, draft of rewritten ''Career'' section:

===Career===

Newmark is best known as the founder of [[craigslist]]. Prior to establishing the website, he worked as a contract computer programmer for companies such as [[Bank of America]], [[Sun Microsystems]], and others.<ref name="NJ.COM Sept2008">{{cite news |title=An interview with Craigslist founder: Morristown native Craig Newmark |last1=Bangiola |first1=Paul |url=https://www.nj.com/morristown/paulbangiola/2008/09/an_interview_with_craigs_list.html |work=NJ.com |date=September 16, 2008 |accessdate=February 17, 2021}}</ref> His first job out of college was with IBM, where we worked for 17 years as a programmer and systems engineer. During that time, he lived in [[Boca Raton, Florida]], [[Detroit]], and then [[Pittsburgh]].<ref name="TheGuardian July2019">{{cite news |title=Craigslist's Craig Newmark: 'Outrage is profitable. Most online outrage is faked for profit' |last1=Smith |first1=David |url=https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/14/craigslist-craig-newmark-outrage-is-profitable-most-online-outrage-is-faked-for-profit |work=The Guardian |date=July 14, 2019 |accessdate=February 23, 2021}}</ref> He moved to [[San Francisco]] in 1993 after accepting a position with [[Charles Schwab]]. There, a coworker introduced him to the [[World Wide Web]]— which at the time was still relatively free of commercials.<ref name="DailyRecord June2004">{{cite news |title=Web guru hails from Morristown |last1=Iqbal |first1=Navid |url=https://amarillo.craigslist.org/about/press/morristown |work=Daily Record |date=June 26, 2004 |accessdate=February 17, 2021}}</ref>

In 1995, Newmark started emailing a list of upcoming events to a few friends to "cultivate a bit of community".<ref name="TheGuardian Feb2006">{{cite news |title=The nerd who became a crusader |last1=Harris |first1=Paul |url=https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2006/feb/19/news.theobserver1 |work=The Guardian |date=February 18, 2006 |accessdate=February 17, 2021}}</ref><ref name="TheRinger June2017">{{cite news |title=Craig From Craigslist’s Second Act |last1=Bereznak |first1=Alyssa |url=https://www.theringer.com/2017/6/1/16042734/craig-newmark-interview-craigslist-journalism-421c50020179 |work=The Ringer |date=June 1, 2017 |accessdate=February 17, 2021}}</ref> Other people asked to be included on the list and as members grew, so did the kinds of information on the list.<ref name="TheGuardian Feb2006"/> Newmark launched craigslist.org in 1996, as a place where people could exchange information, mostly without charge.<ref name="DailyRecord June2004"/> He operated it as a hobby while continuing to work as a software engineer until 1999, when he incorporated craigslist as a [[private company|private]] for-profit company.<ref name="Gizmodo Sept2013">{{cite news |title=Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Craig From Craigslist |last1=Boulton |first1=Terynn |url=https://gizmodo.com/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-craig-from-cra-1262446153 |work=Gizmodo |date=September 6, 2013 |accessdate=February 17, 2021}}</ref> In her book ''An Internet for the People: The Politics and Promise of craigslist'', Jessa Lingel described

the website as "the internet ungentrified".<ref name="PennToday Feb2020">{{cite web |title=What craigslist can teach us about Web 2.0 |last1=Lingel |first1=Jessa |url=https://penntoday.upenn.edu/news/what-craigslist-can-teach-us-about-web-2.0 |work=Penn Today |date=February 19, 2020 |accessdate=February 23, 2021}}</ref> In 2000, Newmark stepped down as [[chief executive officer]] and handed off the role to [[Jim Buckmaster]]. Since then, Newmark has not been involved in the "day-to-day operations" of craigslist.<ref name="Forbes Aug2018">{{cite news |title=Why Billionaire Craig Of Craigslist Is Giving Millions To Journalism And Education |last1=Au-Yeung |first1=Angel |url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/angelauyeung/2018/08/13/why-billionaire-craig-of-craigslist-is-giving-millions-to-journalism-and-education/?sh=398b6ec37942 |work=Forbes |date=August 13, 2018 |accessdate=February 17, 2021}}</ref> As of 2018, he continued to respond to craigslist customer service inquiries, primarily dealing with [[spammers]] and [[scammers]].<ref name="Forbes Aug2018"/><ref name="NJ.COM Sept2008/>


In 2005, ''[[Time (magazine)|Time]]'' magazine listed Craig Newmark as one of the 100 people shaping the world.<ref name="TheGuardian Feb2006"/>


Newmark serves on the board of several non-profit organizations such as [[CUNY Graduate School of Journalism]], [[Girls Who Code]] and Vets in Tech, among others. He also holds roles on the advisory boards of 18 other non-profits.<ref name="Entrepreneur July2019">{{cite news |title=What Craig Newmark Can Teach Entrepreneurs About Philanthropy |last1=Boitnott |first1=John |url=https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/336084 |work=Entrepreneur |date=July 2, 2019 |accessdate=February 17, 2021}}</ref>

{{reflist talk}}

Send me any questions or comments here or on my Talk page. Much thanks,

[[User:Cnewmark|Cnewmark]] ([[User talk:Cnewmark|talk]]) 19:15, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

:{{ping|Cnewmark}} After a thorough review, these edits look accurate. Going to go ahead and make them live. Thanks for the updated info. [[User:Dwightny7|Dwightny7]] ([[User talk:Dwightny7|talk]]) 16:57, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Revision as of 07:49, 17 March 2024

This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

Folks, this is Craig Newmark. I'm here to suggest further edits and updates to this page. I have confirmed my identity with the Wikimedia Foundation (see my Talk page for details). As the subject of the page, I will continue to only make suggestions here on the talk page and will not directly edit the article myself. My goals here are to offer updates and changes that improve the value of this article to the encyclopedia.

I understand that Wikipedia is not a repository for every detail of my life, and I trust editors to make the right choice when choosing what content to add or change.

Today, I'd like to propose a rename and rewrite of the Early life section. The draft I am submitting below includes more details about my high school and college experience, so I am proposing the section be renamed to Early life and education.

Early life and education

Newmark, the son of Joyce and Lee Newmark, was born in 1952 in Morristown, New Jersey.[1] As a child, Newmark liked science fiction and comic books, and wanted to become a paleontologist.[2] Newmark's mother was a book-keeper and his father an insurance and meat salesman. When Newmark was thirteen, his father died from cancer. His mother then moved him and his younger brother, Jeff, to Jacob Ford Village.[1][3]

As a teenager, Newmark attended Morristown High School, where he became interested in physics.[3] He wore taped together, black-rimmed glasses and a pocket protector.[4] In an interview, Newmark described his high school self as "possible nerd patient zero".[5] During high school, he sang in the school choir, joined the physics club,[2] co-captained the debate team, and was in the honor society.[3] Newmark graduated high school in 1971.[6]

During his freshman year of college, Newmark began studying computer science.[2] He earned Bachelor of Science and Master of Science degrees in computing and information sciences from Case Western Reserve University[7] in 1975 and 1977, respectively.[8]

References

  1. ^ a b Harris, Paul (February 18, 2006). "The nerd who became a crusader". The Guardian. Retrieved January 4, 2021.
  2. ^ a b c Dolcourt, Jessica (July 25, 2019). "Nerdy Craigslist founder wants to change the world -- starting with your news". CNET. Retrieved January 4, 2021.
  3. ^ a b c Coughlin, Kevin (July 20, 2015). "You can go (at) home again". Morristown Green. Retrieved January 4, 2021.
  4. ^ Davidson, Idelle (June 13, 2004). "The Craigslist Phenomenon". The Los Angeles Times. Retrieved January 12, 2021.
  5. ^ Hill, Angela (June 24, 2020). "'Gotta stand up': Craigslist founder shows his support and (money) for traditional media". Bay City News Foundation. Retrieved January 12, 2021.
  6. ^ Bangiola, Paul (September 16, 2008). "An interview with Craigslist founder: Morristown native Craig Newmark". NJ.com. Advance Local. Retrieved January 4, 2021.
  7. ^ "#1613 Craig Newmark". Forbes. Retrieved January 4, 2021.
  8. ^ "Case Western Reserve University selects honorary doctorates awardees". Case Western Reserve University. March 25, 2008. Retrieved January 4, 2021.

I am open to comments and questions from editors. Thanks!Cnewmark (talk) 15:06, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

@Cnewmark: Thank you for disclosing your identity here. I don't see any issues with the content you proposed above, so I'm going to go ahead and implement it. Marquardtika (talk) 15:45, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
@Marquardtika: I really appreciate your kindness and help, not only regarding my bio, but also work re Women in Red, I'm supporting such efforts, including a similar one via the Smithsonian. Many thanks! Cnewmark (talk) 12:07, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Folks, Craig Newmark here. I have a draft here of the Career section updated and rewritten. If any editors are available to review, I'd appreciate it. My hope is to build up the section with additional appropriate context and sourcing.

@Marquardtika: Since you reviewed my last section draft, I thought you might be interested in taking a look at this one, as well.

A couple of things to note:

  1. I've actually retired completely from craigslist and no longer respond to Customer Service inquiries. That hasn't been reported yet, so I have not included it in the draft. my profile on craigslist does mention this. Do you think it is reasonable to add this information? I understand if the answer is no.
  2. Should there be additional boards I serve on mentioned? There are others that I have primary sourcing for, such as the Bob Woodruff Foundation and The City. Do you think these, or others, are appropriate to include? Again, I understand if the answer is no.
@Cnewmark: I think the first modification is appropriate. Adding more boards would probably be worthwhile as well. Dwightny7 (talk) 17:00, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Below, draft of rewritten Career section:

Career

Newmark is best known as the founder of craigslist. Prior to establishing the website, he worked as a contract computer programmer for companies such as Bank of America, Sun Microsystems, and others.[1] His first job out of college was with IBM, where we worked for 17 years as a programmer and systems engineer. During that time, he lived in Boca Raton, Florida, Detroit, and then Pittsburgh.[2] He moved to San Francisco in 1993 after accepting a position with Charles Schwab. There, a coworker introduced him to the World Wide Web— which at the time was still relatively free of commercials.[3]

In 1995, Newmark started emailing a list of upcoming events to a few friends to "cultivate a bit of community".[4][5] Other people asked to be included on the list and as members grew, so did the kinds of information on the list.[4] Newmark launched craigslist.org in 1996, as a place where people could exchange information, mostly without charge.[3] He operated it as a hobby while continuing to work as a software engineer until 1999, when he incorporated craigslist as a private for-profit company.[6] In her book An Internet for the People: The Politics and Promise of craigslist, Jessa Lingel described the website as "the internet ungentrified".[7] In 2000, Newmark stepped down as chief executive officer and handed off the role to Jim Buckmaster. Since then, Newmark has not been involved in the "day-to-day operations" of craigslist.[8] As of 2018, he continued to respond to craigslist customer service inquiries, primarily dealing with spammers and scammers.[8][1]

In 2005, Time magazine listed Craig Newmark as one of the 100 people shaping the world.[4]

Newmark serves on the board of several non-profit organizations such as CUNY Graduate School of Journalism, Girls Who Code and Vets in Tech, among others. He also holds roles on the advisory boards of 18 other non-profits.[9]

References

  1. ^ a b Bangiola, Paul (September 16, 2008). "An interview with Craigslist founder: Morristown native Craig Newmark". NJ.com. Retrieved February 17, 2021.
  2. ^ Smith, David (July 14, 2019). "Craigslist's Craig Newmark: 'Outrage is profitable. Most online outrage is faked for profit'". The Guardian. Retrieved February 23, 2021.
  3. ^ a b Iqbal, Navid (June 26, 2004). "Web guru hails from Morristown". Daily Record. Retrieved February 17, 2021.
  4. ^ a b c Harris, Paul (February 18, 2006). "The nerd who became a crusader". The Guardian. Retrieved February 17, 2021.
  5. ^ Bereznak, Alyssa (June 1, 2017). "Craig From Craigslist's Second Act". The Ringer. Retrieved February 17, 2021.
  6. ^ Boulton, Terynn (September 6, 2013). "Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Craig From Craigslist". Gizmodo. Retrieved February 17, 2021.
  7. ^ Lingel, Jessa (February 19, 2020). "What craigslist can teach us about Web 2.0". Penn Today. Retrieved February 23, 2021.
  8. ^ a b Au-Yeung, Angel (August 13, 2018). "Why Billionaire Craig Of Craigslist Is Giving Millions To Journalism And Education". Forbes. Retrieved February 17, 2021.
  9. ^ Boitnott, John (July 2, 2019). "What Craig Newmark Can Teach Entrepreneurs About Philanthropy". Entrepreneur. Retrieved February 17, 2021.

Send me any questions or comments here or on my Talk page. Much thanks, Cnewmark (talk) 19:15, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Cnewmark: After a thorough review, these edits look accurate. Going to go ahead and make them live. Thanks for the updated info. Dwightny7 (talk) 16:57, 10 March 2021 (UTC)