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== Fats Domino recordings ==


Hello,

Why you renamed this page from "Fats Domino Recordings" to "List of Fats Domino Studio Recordings"?

# There are '''not only studio recordings''', buth both studio and live ones, please look at entire article.

# This is '''not only a list''' (titles only), but a session-o-graphy and discography of first release of each listed recording.

So your renaming seems be unjustified. In addition, you did this without any prior discussion, putting me as the author of the page before the fact.

[[User:RocknRollArchivist|RocknRollArchivist]] ([[User talk:RocknRollArchivist|talk]]) 08:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

:Hi there, I felt that re-naming the article to a "list" was appropriate because the article primarily listed out recordings - additional information about each recording is appreciated, but does not change the fact that it a list per wiki standards despite additional table information (see [[Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists]]). However it is my mistake that I added "studio" to the title - I have since moved the draft again to rectify this mistake. Hope this helped. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 17:46, 11 April 2020 (UTC)


== Review Article ==


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Maskoor_Usmani

I occasionally edit Wiki articles and one of my recent page creation requests were declined. I researched and added more information post the rejection and also found out that the article adheres to Wikipedia's notability guidelines as there are over 70 credible references on the internet mentioning him. A Youtube search also reveals that he is a regular debater on national television in India. I plan to update the article with more information over time. Could you please share some insights on what to improvise upon, I really am trying to learn contributing to Wikipedia. [[User:AkkiDeutscher|AkkiDeutscher]] ([[User talk:AkkiDeutscher|talk]]) 13:55, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


== UK Coronavirus Cancer Monitoring Project ==


Hi Liance,


Thank you for the feedback for my submission of the [[Draft:UK Coronavirus Cancer Monitoring Project|UK Coronavirus Cancer Monitoring Project]] Wikipedia page. Since your review, there has been more coverage of the project, namely a commentary in a high-impact peer-reviewed medical journal (paper: https://doi.org/10.1016/S1470-2045(20)30230-8) and letters of support. Would addition of these references with other minor edits are likely to be sufficient for accepting the page?


Many thanks!

[[User:TStarkeyBham|TStarkeyBham]] ([[User talk:TStarkeyBham|talk]]) 13:55, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|TStarkeyBham}}, so sorry for the long delay for a response. The draft seems notable enough for inclusion now. If you resubmit the article I could move it to the mainspace and accept it. Thanks, -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 02:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)


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== Declined https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dirk_Hohndel ==


Hello Liance!

Thank you for your feedback (within minutes versus the 5 weeks I anticipated). This is my first wiki attempt and am struggling with adding references and flow.

The reason I think Dirk deserves a wiki page is that he is a an early Linux and open source contributor, going on to help found several of the open source foundations and calls to action on diversity and inclusion in this space.

I have additional references to add:

https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3000

https://www.usenix.org/legacy/publications/library/proceedings/als00/2000papers/papers/full_papers/hohndel/hohndel_html/index.html

and could add a list of links for keynotes.

Is that would you are looking?

Sincerely

[[User:Malini Bhandaru|Malini Bhandaru]] ([[User talk:Malini Bhandaru|talk]]) 00:48, 6 June 2020 (UTC)


== Rewrite of Dirk Hohndel page ==


Liance, I got the hang of the edit UI and a sense of flow (I think) .. hope the major re-write addresses the concerns you raised. Looking forward to hearing from you. Wishing you a good weekend.

[[User:Malini Bhandaru|Malini Bhandaru]] ([[User talk:Malini Bhandaru|talk]]) 08:08, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|Malini Bhandaru}}, I took a look at the draft. However, I noticed that nearly all (except one or two) sources with coverage directly related to Dirk Hohndel were interviews - these generally don't satisfy the requirements of being independent of the subject (which is criteria needed to satisfy [[WP:BIO|notability for people]]. Additional sources that are independent and significant coverage of the subject might be needed. Hope this helped. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 03:54, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


== Review Article ==


Hi Liance

To review Alireza Kohany's page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Alireza_Kohany

I am not Alireza Kohany! I'm just a fan of Alireza Kohany,

If you look closely at the film's website, Alireza Kohany's roles in those films are mentioned.

Is it possible to confirm the article?

:Hi {{u|KohanyAlireza}} - firstly, I would recommend you [[WP:Change username|change your username]] since your current name may imply that you are [[WP:Impersonation|impersonating]] Alireza Kohany, which could be confusing for other editors and result in a block. Currently, the article's references do not meet the [[WP:BIO|notability requirements]] which outline the need for additional references in secondary, independent sources; user-contributed websites like IMDb and wikipedia in other languages do not qualify for this. If you want the draft to be accepted then more sources will be needed. Hope this helped. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 03:47, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


== Review Article - Mish-mash (food) ==


Hello, Liance


Regarding your review and declining of this article on the Mish-mash dish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mish-mash_(food)


First of, thank you for your fast review.


I have added 3 more references to notable blogs in English. The problem is, I don't think there are many references in encyclopedias and science magazines about Balkan cuisine. This dish is neither controversial, nor widely spread around the world - it is just a beloved local dish tourists and locals eat around here. So many people around the world know what a Banitsa pastry is, or Tripe soup, yet look at the wikipedia pages on those subjects and there are no more reliable references than the ones I've provided - food blogs and local literature, something translated to English at best. My point is, I can dig up 50 more references for this stub article, and all food blogs and local cooking shows, but it will get ridiculous.


Also, is it common for a topic to be on disambiguation page, but to lack notoriety to have an article? - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mish_Mash


Also, I've asked here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#19:15:39,_10_June_2020_review_of_draft_by_ShadowBee

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:Hi {{u|ShadowBee}}, I have added a few more sources and accepted your draft. Thanks for your contributions! I will also add it to the mish-mash disambig page. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 21:20, 10 June 2020 (UTC)


== WildEarth ==


Sorry to bother you, Liance. I just thought I'd say that WildEarth should be considered a "notable companies", as they are the most well-known organisation when it comes to live-streamed African safaris. If you disagree with this, and think another company is more well-known for it, feel free to let me know. Also, I updated it to include more news links, and also links to other companies and reserves that they work with. [[User:Redstoneprime|Redstoneprime]] ([[User talk:Redstoneprime|talk]]) 20:04, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|Redstoneprime}} - regardless of how 'well-known' a company is for inclusion the draft must demonstrate this by showing significant indepth coverage via multiple independent reliable sources ([[WP:CORP]]) - user contributed sources and those linked to the subject (WildEarth in this case) do not qualify, so this would include youtube, twitch, the company website itself, etc. Overall I felt that more indepth coverage was needed for this to be demonstrated. Hope this helps. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 21:26, 10 June 2020 (UTC)


{{U|Liance}} Understood. [[User:Redstoneprime|Redstoneprime]] ([[User talk:Redstoneprime|talk]]) 08:25, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

:Great, let me know if anything else comes up -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 17:38, 11 June 2020 (UTC)


{{u|Liance}} I've added some links to more news articles. If I find anything else I'll make sure to add them. [[User:Redstoneprime|Redstoneprime]] ([[User talk:Redstoneprime|talk]]) 08:47, 12 June 2020 (UTC)


== Sinical ==


Hi Liance,

I recently had n wiki article declined. Reason being, it read more as an advertisement. I have made numerous edits and I want to make sure the article fits the guidelines. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sinical [[User:Mweberjr|Mweberjr]] ([[User talk:Mweberjr|talk]]) 04:35, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|Mweberjr}}, you should remove the external links from the body text of your draft since those are generally not used anywhere in the main content. Additionally, take a look at [[WP:NMUSIC]] for notability guidelines on music-related topics. Hope this helps. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 01:22, 15 June 2020 (UTC)


== Recent decline ==


Hello Liance,


prior to submitting my content, I did look through most if not all the pertinent material Wiki has on inclusion. I did not include multiple sources (see below) because the article would look busy in the draft format Wiki uses. My intent would be to include two to three (cited) references. in the published version because the formatting there allows for citing.


Is this acceptable or should I give up?


https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/5785602/virtual-girlfriend-ar-blade-runner-2049/


https://optocrypto.com/soon-virtual-girlfriend-ar-will-available-download-hololens/


https://virtualrealityreporter.com/3d-hologroup-release-3d-holo-girlfriend-ar-app/


https://www.corecommunique.com/3d-hologroup-inc-has-released-the-first-adult-oriented-augmented-reality-content-for-microsofts-hololens-and-meta-visions-meta2-with-its-opening-of-3d-holo-girlfriend/


https://mspoweruser.com/first-adult-title-comes-to-the-microsoft-hololens/


https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-best-AR-porn-sites-in-2018


https://www.deccanchronicle.com/technology/in-other-news/210318/make-virtual-girlfriend-hololens-augmented-reality-hologram.html

:{{u|Mlcastellanos}} - these sources should be cited in the draft article via [[WP:ILC|inline citations]], as they are the only way a subject can establish notability on wikipedia. This can be done with <nowiki><ref></nowiki> tags, and external links in the body should be removed. As long as your provided sources are secondary and independent of the subject they are acceptable. Hope this helps. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 01:25, 15 June 2020 (UTC)


== College of Health, Yamfo ==


Hello Liance, what about putting information about the college in a section about educational institutions in the article about [[Yamfo]]? Then the draft can be deleted until the college achieves enough notoriety to justify an article. Thanks, ... [[User:PeterEasthope|PeterEasthope]] ([[User talk:PeterEasthope|talk]]) 21:08, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|PeterEasthope}}, if you feel like notability can't be established at this moment if the college is notable in the area I feel that a mention in the article [[Yamfo]] would be appropriate. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 03:47, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

::Criteria in Wikipedia should be established objectively. Compliance should not be the opinion of one person.<p>CoHY is growing as rapidly as any college in my locale. Program offerings and courses will grow. Within a lifetime, CoHY is likely to become a university. In principle CoHY is as notable as many other institutions having articles. But how is notability established? With contemporary electronic communications there is no hardcopy newspaper with a story about CoHY.<p>Please have a look at the article about [[Douglas College|Douglas College]]. The references to Global News and to the Vancouver Sun give blank pages. Those references are effectively dead. The last reference is to a Province of BC page addressing accreditation of institutions in general; no mention of Douglas College. The other references are internal. The Douglas College article really doesn't have references satisfying notability criteria. Many similar examples exist and I don't mean to criticize the DC article in particular. The only way I see to satisfy notability honestly is for the institution to have faculty who publish notable scholarly work. Work which is published in scientific and other journals and can be cited. Criteria should apply honestly and without discrimination. Regards, ... [[User:PeterEasthope|PeterEasthope]] ([[User talk:PeterEasthope|talk]]) 14:15, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

:::{{u|PeterEasthope}}, please read up on [[WP:NN|the Wikipedia notability guidelines]] which require articles to be supported by reliable sources in secondary, independent publications - currently your draft reflects none of this and cannot be accepted in this form. If your subject is "as notable as many other institutions having articles" then sources must be provided to show this, otherwise that notability does not exist by Wikipedia standards. Douglas College is easily notable, there is no such thing as a "dead reference" (in that case most news articles published in the past would be considered dead, which is absurd) and Google easily brings up many more reliable sources. If you think your subject also has notability please show this through the use of references. Thx -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 16:09, 16 June 2020 (UTC)


== Wikipedian! ==


Liance, thank you for the warm welcome. Working on some drafts now, valiant sir!

[[User:Newmusicgeeking|Newmusicgeeking]] ([[User talk:Newmusicgeeking|talk]]) 03:42, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

:{{u|Newmusicgeeking}} that's great to hear, let me know if anything is needed! -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 03:46, 16 June 2020 (UTC)


== Lary Walker page ==


Hi Liance, Thanks for looking at the draft page for Lary Walker. I think the content of the page is reasonable, but there is a bit of redundancy because I list some of his important publications, and then some of them also show up in the reference section. Do you think this is a problem? I SHOULD be better at all of this, because I have my students do Wiki pages for class, so apologies. But, at least this adventure is getting me to become more comfortable with the editing process! [[User:BrainMan2017|BrainMan2017]] ([[User talk:BrainMan2017|talk]]) 16:29, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|BrainMan2017}} - I think that should be fine, as long as [[WP:NPROF|academic notability]] is shown via reliable, independent secondary sources as well. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 00:51, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Liance, Super. Thanks for reviewing the page!! [[User:BrainMan2017|BrainMan2017]] ([[User talk:BrainMan2017|talk]]) 02:50, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Liance, I actually went in and fixed one of the references, which was not active. Lary Walker is a hugely important scientist in the field of Alzheimer's disease, being the first to show how pathology spreads (along with his colleague, Matt Jucker).[[User:BrainMan2017|BrainMan2017]] ([[User talk:BrainMan2017|talk]]) 03:17, 17 June 2020 (UTC)


== Thanks ==


Hi Lance,


Thanks for your recent review of my article. I'm still a newbie and I was about to ask my teacher for help regarding whether to edit the sandbox or the article directly. Your comment helped a lot. Thanks [[User:Dazen31415|Dazen31415]] ([[User talk:Dazen31415|talk]]) 00:04, 17 June 2020 (UTC) 17/06/2020

:No problem {{u|Dazen31415}}, glad to be of help. On the wiki we generally directly edit the articles so content can be tracked via revision history. Let me know if anything else comes up! -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 00:46, 17 June 2020 (UTC)


== Kingdom of Jeypore ==


Hello Liance,


There is a problem in the page (Kingdom of Jeypore). For the past three months one user is constantly deleting and editing our work. In the beginning he deleted most of the research saying that the evidence is from sources of British Raj. Due to the neglect this area is facing from the Indian and state government since 1947, there are not enough books written on the history of the dynasty but still we tried our best and provided a lot of modern and relevant references to support our article.


However the last two paragraphs under post titlular ruler has one reference from the Times of India newspaper that mentions the coronation of the new titular king of the dynasty. But this user called Rexxx deletes it every time saying it’s unreliable. How is a big sensational news of this kind can be considered unreliable. We have many newspapers mentioning the event and we are ready to provide to whomsoever if required. But pleas please ask this man to stop editing because he is creating a bit unhealthy atmosphere and not letting us concentrate on making this article better.

[[User:Mihirbhoj|Mihirbhoj]] ([[User talk:Mihirbhoj|talk]]) 03:08, 17 June 2020 (UTC)


== Submission of Gordon Tredgold biography ==


Please help to check it, I have removed all the possible primary source. [[User:Abbas Kwarbai|Abbas Kwarbai]] ([[User talk:Abbas Kwarbai|talk]]) 13:08, 18 June 2020 (UTC)


== Generation C ==

Hello again,

I have added some additional references that show that the term is starting to be widely used.

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Hello,

Thank you for using your time to review the [[Draft:Generation_C | Generation C]] entry. I have added more references to show the notability. It is true that being something so new, the references are still not thousands but you can see that the term is being used worldwide and also in some important sites. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:GeneralComment|GeneralComment]] ([[User talk:GeneralComment#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GeneralComment|contribs]]) 11:21, 19 June 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Regarding Gordon Tredgold Article ==


The submission has reached 24 hours without any response. Is it clearly shows that the article is now accepted to go for reviewing? Please I will like to have positive response from you sir [[User:Abbas Kwarbai|Abbas Kwarbai]] ([[User talk:Abbas Kwarbai|talk]]) 15:46, 19 June 2020 (UTC)


== Scantrust article ==


Hi Liance, thank you for accepting my article on [[Scantrust]], which is now in Mainspace. I see however at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed that "the page is still unreviewed", and so I am not not clear on what will happen next, if anything. I was wondering if it is usual for an accepted article to be unreviewed. Does this this mean that other reviewers will review it in the near future? Many thanks, [[User:Factfox|Factfox]] ([[User talk:Factfox|talk]]) 12:29, 22 June 2020 (UTC)


== BIPS article deletion discussion ==


Hi Liance, I saw you are active in the cryptocurrency wikiproject. Would you care to weigh in at [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bitcoin_Improvement_Proposal]]? --[[Special:Contributions/187.178.163.96|187.178.163.96]] ([[User talk:187.178.163.96|talk]]) 21:09, 28 June 2020 (UTC)


== BCB Blockchain (Blockchain Protocol) ==


Hey Liance!


I have resubmitted the wiki page on BCB Blockchin as per your comments. I have added in more credible links and supporting evidences. Please do take a look at your convienient time and let me know if any further changes needed. Looking forward to hearing from you very soon. Thank you




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== KC Pandey ==


Hi Liance!


I have redone the topic ( K C Pandey ) I had tried during my first submission (which was refused). I did a thorough study for AFC as per Wikipedia & about the topic & worked on it!

I don't want this time time to fail , so I humbly request to give a quick look at my creation & let me know the flaws if any before final review to publish.

I understand about the time constraint so I'm asking for just an overview. If done I'll be able to make the changes as advised!

I'll be highly thankful . Though being my 1st AFC I'll keep updating on the subject as I get to know more of it. I think I'm clear with my words.



Warm Regds,

[[User:Shekhar in|Shekhar in]] ([[User talk:Shekhar in|talk]]) 01:09, 5 July 2020 (UTC)


== Thank you ==

Thanks for moving my draft article. Still finding my feet!

[[User:Reader265|Reader265]] ([[User talk:Reader265|talk]]) 09:54, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


==[[Draft:Lito Adiwang]] concern==

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== References issues ==


My article about emteria.OS is rejected because of not enough supporting references, and I added new references and resubmitted it. While I check with other similar OS pages, my references looks the same supporting and valid. Would you help me about which parts do not have enough references in order to change or delete them from my article? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Farzaneh.mostafaei|Farzaneh.mostafaei]] ([[User talk:Farzaneh.mostafaei#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Farzaneh.mostafaei|contribs]]) 13:25, 18 August 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Your draft article, [[Draft:Lito Adiwang]]==

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Hello, Liance. It has been over six months since you last edited the [[WP:AFC|Articles for Creation]] submission or [[WP:Drafts|Draft]] page you started, "[[Draft:Lito Adiwang|Lito Adiwang]]".


In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia [[WP:mainspace|mainspace]], the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply {{edit|Draft:Lito Adiwang|edit the submission}} and remove the {{tlc|db-afc}}, {{tlc|db-draft}}, or {{tlc|db-g13}} code.


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== Wiki Review: BCB Blockchain (Blockchain Protocol) ==


Hi Liance,


Hope this finds you well. Thank you for your feedback on our [[Draft:BCB_Blockchain_(Blockchain_Protocol)|BCB Blockchain (BCB Protocol)]] wiki entry. I understand that there was an issue with the supporting sources added in. We have edited and resubmitted the draft. I hope the revised version meets the guidelines better. Kindly let me know if we should resubmit the draft as a new entry and/or if there any changes to be made. We are new to this and are concerned about being declined again. If there are any other way we can get it reviewed successfully, kindly please let me know. Looking forward to hearing from you very soon. Best, Nisha.


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== Article about JJ Alfieri ==


In January you declined an article that I wrote about an actor. I have re-written the article and added a number of citations and links. I'm not sure about how the Wikipedia platform works and have been fumbling around with it. Can you tell me if my article has actually been submitted for review, and if you could take a look at it? Thanks!

[[User:Jim Barfly|Jim Barfly]] ([[User talk:Jim Barfly|talk]]) 20:23, 23 October 2020 (UTC)


== Request on 05:39:17, 25 October 2020 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Rishijindal ==

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This page is a Bio of Mr Suresh Jindal


His mention can be found at <ref> https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002400/ </ref> as a Film Producer with notable and significant films

As a columnist he has written multiple articles for Speaking Tree a distinguished Blog

<ref> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=speaking+Tree+Suresh+Jindal&atb=v213-1&ia=web&iai=r1-0&page=1&adx=prdsdc&sexp=%7B%22relsexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22prodexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22prdsdexp%22%3A%22c%22%2C%22biaexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22direxp%22%3A%22b%22%7D </ref>

He has also been been awarded the "Chevalier dans l'ordre des arts et lettres", a title bestowed by the French government.


Mr. Jindal has a B.S.E.E. from UCLA and spent four years in the Aerospace/Electronics Industry in California as an engineer

He is a member of the "National Honorary Mathematics Society of America" and the "Academic Council of the Film & Television Institute of India"

He is also ex-vice-president of the "Indian Motion Picture Producers Association"

<ref> https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002400/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_trv_sm#trivia </ref>


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== KUNZITE draft rejected ==


Hey Liance,

I see that you denied my Wiki draft for my client, KUNZITE. They are a bicoastal music group who my are managed by the company where I work, [[Fenway Recordings]]. I was wondering what I can do to help get this draft approved.

[[User:Sophiewilde|Sophiewilde]] ([[User talk:Sophiewilde|talk]]) 18:30, 4 November 2020 (UTC)Thanks so much,

Sophie


== Question About You Declining My Draft ==


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Edit: Actually I think I know what to do.


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== Article about 'Saraf Furniture' ==


Dear Liance,


An article was submitted about 'Saraf furniture' on the basis of its notable achievement of manufacturing all its furniture from pure Sheesham Wood. If you can see a video at the following link: <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk-R74ycoCk&feature=emb_title</ref>, which states that how the company started manufacturing all its products from solid Sheesham wood. Also other recent videos stating that it is the only company manufacturing all its furniture from Government purchased Sheesahm wood. The company has also converted the un-organized furniture market in India into an organized and ratable sector. The success story and the notability factor is also highlighted at <ref>https://startupsuccessstories.in/this-bootstrapped-rural-startup-from-rajasthan-disrupts-the-furniture-industry-with-sheesham-wood-products/</ref>, not being media reports.


Please look into the matter and consider the genuine notable factors of the company about bringing a revolution in the furniture market of India.


Regards,

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== Jan 26th ==


Hello Liance! Thanks for the heads up as well for the welcome message :) [[User:Cestgeorge|Cestgeorge]] ([[User talk:Cestgeorge|talk]]) 17:27, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

:No problem! Let me know if I can help at all. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 16:22, 27 January 2021 (UTC)


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== Biological Museum ==


Hi Liance, many thanks for moving the article forward! It is my first try to make a page and I'm curious to see how the process goes.

[[User:Nymphalid niklas|Nymphalid niklas]] ([[User talk:Nymphalid niklas|talk]]) 09:57, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

:No problem. Please let me know if I can help in any way! -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 16:39, 28 January 2021 (UTC)


== Help with sandbox and reviewing, also COI declaration ==


Thanks! I appreciate the advice and help everyone is giving me so far and will look at the newly located draft which you kindly moved for me today. I am learning, slowly!

[[User:Kittyo|Kittyo]] ([[User talk:Kittyo|talk]]) 17:47, 9 February 2021 (UTC)


== Sorry about that ==


I meant to avoid putting the page in the pending category (there is a {{para|demo|yes}} flag to {{tl|AfC submission}}), but it turns out that parameter [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:AfC_submission/pending&diff=1007217710&oldid=989388866 wasn't completely supported]. Should be fixed now. — [[User:The Earwig|<span style="opacity:0.8;">The</span> Earwig]] ⟨[[User talk:The Earwig|talk]]⟩ 01:30, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

:Thank you so much for letting me know! And this is my fault as well - I instinctively declined the draft as a test edit, and only afterwards did I realize it should not have been in the queue in the first place. Definitely should have asked first. Apologies! -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 01:34, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

:Hey {{u|The Earwig}} - sorry for the ping but your dummy page ([[User:The Earwig/Sandbox/AfC submission]]) is currently in the AfC queue and shows up for reviewers. Just wanted to let you know in case it would be of any help! -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 05:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

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== Thanks! Need more tips to change. ==


Thanks for moving my draft to the appropriate location for Articles for Creation submissions. It was a quiet struggle for me to create an aritcle for the first time.

I was informed that you have moved to Draft: NFLOW. However, when I click the Draft: NFLOW to edit, the title is changed to Draft: Nflow. The title should be in all capital letters either "NFLOW," or "E8IGHT NFLOW." Please give me the advice to change the Draft title. I really appreciate your help! :) [[User:LynnEri|LynnEri]] ([[User talk:LynnEri|talk]]) 07:44, 17 February 2021 (UTC)


==Damnthecaesars==

Hey, Liance. Wikitia somehow cloned the page I was making. Is there anything I can do about this?

[[User:Damnthecaesars|Damnthecaesars]] ([[User talk:Damnthecaesars|talk]]) 14:33, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

:Hey could you clarify what you meant by this? Thanks! -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 03:17, 28 February 2021 (UTC)


Hello Liance, I have corrected the inline citation and resubmitted for review. Can you please check the page and let me know if anything wrong. Thanks


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== RE: Further gudiance on SPIN-Farming article submission ==


Hi Liance, Thanks for taking the time to review and for your quick feedback.

Your reply: This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.


My question: There have been numerous newspaper and magazine articles written on SPIN-Farming, as well as research papers and studies. They are listed on the SPIN news page here: https://spinfarming.com/local-food-media/


Do any of these qualify as reliable secondary sources?

[[User:Annstarlet|Annstarlet]] ([[User talk:Annstarlet|talk]]) 20:39, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

:Hello {{u|Annstarlet}} - on Wikipedia all articles must demonstrate notability via significant coverage in secondary sources independent of the subject (see [[WP:INDEPENDENT]] and [[WP:RS]] for reference). In other words, articles and papers should be not directly associated with the subject of the article and should be reliable sources to establish notability. As long as these conditions are met then they will be valid sources. Please be sure to use [[WP:ILC|inline citations]] when referencing any content as well. Hope this helps. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 20:45, 18 August 2021 (UTC)


== Why declined ==


Why you declined my friend page instead of approving it just decline it, this outrage [[User:Yeshs167|Yeshs167]] ([[User talk:Yeshs167|talk]]) 22:51, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

:Feedback was left on your talk page as to why your draft was declined. Reading it would most likely answer your question. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 22:58, 18 August 2021 (UTC)


== Resubmitted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:GET_-_Guaranteed_Entrance_Token ==


Hey Liance, thanks for your swift review of my GET page. I thought I provided enough sources, but upon closer look they were mostly primary and indeed needed adjustments. Appreciate the work! After added sources I've resubmitted the page. I hope it's sufficient now. If not, could you provide me with some extra information to help me out? It's my first page, I've been searching a lot about what to do and what not to do, but there's so much information that it's easy to overlook something.

[[User:Jeronemoo|Jeronemoo]] ([[User talk:Jeronemoo|talk]]) 12:11, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

:Hey {{u|Jeronemoo}} - I looked over the draft and the TNW and IQ-mag sources you added are good, since they are reliable, show significant coverage and are independent of the subject. Unfortunately I am not sure if it meets [[WP:GNG]] quite yet and will likely need more significant coverage to fit that criteria. Note that cryptocurrency-related news outlets and blogs, along with Forbes personal sites, are generally not considered [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] when looking to add more. I'll leave it to another editor to review your submission this time and provide feedback for fairness, but please let me know if you have any more questions. Hope this helps! -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 12:26, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

:Hey {{u|Liance}}, I've wanted to discuss a few things with you, if you're open for them. First of all; After reading the guidelines and other articles on wiki, I must agree that GET as a seperate article has indeed not been notably in the news yet and therefore, should not have its own article until that happens. My original plan was to create a page for GET, GET Protocol and GUTS Tickets, so I could link to the earlier articles as a way to seperate information. I have revised that plan since it was clear it didn't fit the wiki guidelines. I have now created a GUTS Tickets article, where GET & GET Protocol are written about as they're part of GUTS Tickets. If you have time, perhaps you could review it; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:GUTS_Tickets. Secondly, I have added the proposed deletion to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Guaranteed_Entrance_Token, as it won't be accepted until it has enough notable sources, but it's unclear if and when this will happen. Have I done this correctly? And thirdly; After reading this message, feel free to delete this section from your talk page. Our conversation about GET has reached a (good) conclusion! [[User:Jeronemoo|Jeronemoo]] ([[User talk:Jeronemoo|talk]]) 08:28, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

::{{u|Jeronemoo}} Wiki articles often have subsections on related/encompassed topics so yes you could certainly write a section about the related topic and create a redirect to the section. Please note that the criteria at [[WP:NCORP]] must be met for your draft article to be accepted - it may be helpful to pick out the [[WP:THREE]] best sources to help reviewers when evaluating your article. Best, -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 14:32, 1 October 2021 (UTC)


== Further guidance on SPIN-Farming article how to proceed ==


Good day Liance. Thanks for your continued guidance on how to make this entry more useful.

Your reply was:

Hello Annstarlet - on Wikipedia all articles must demonstrate notability via significant coverage in secondary sources independent of the subject (see WP:INDEPENDENT and WP:RS for reference). In other words, articles and papers should be not directly associated with the subject of the article and should be reliable sources to establish notability. As long as these conditions are met then they will be valid sources. Please be sure to use inline citations when referencing any content as well. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 20:45, 18 August 2021 (UTC)


My next step:

SPIN-Farming provided models on how to make money growing food that reduced the amount of land needed to under an acre. This sub-acre scale of farming enabled more people to try farming and helped a lot of food/farming/gardening movements take root beginning in 2006, including urban agriculture, yardsharing, backyard farming, local farming, and sustainable farming. So what I need to do is make that clear and also provide articles or information sources on these various movements as secondary sources under the References area. Is that correct? (I very much appreciate your time and continued guidance).

:Hello again {{u|Annstarlet}}, in order for inclusion on wikipedia the subject must meet notability guidelines for organizations, please see [[WP:ORGCRIT]]. You will need to provide secondary, independent, and reliable references that demonstrate the subject meets these criteria and is notable. Hope this helps. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 16:32, 20 August 2021 (UTC)


== Request on 04:05:49, 20 August 2021 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Iamlait ==

{{anchor|04:05:49, 20 August 2021 review of submission by Iamlait}}

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Hi, thanks for the review and i'm open to corrections on my last created article so as to get it published on Wikipedia. I believe i cited enough references and the subject is eligible. I'd appreciate your assistance in getting the article published live. Thanks.



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:{{u|Iamlait}} - musicians must meet the criteria established on [[WP:MUSICBIO]] to be considered notable and article-worthy. Your draft does not meet these criteria at the moment, if the subject is notable please add [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that demonstrate this. Hope this helps. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 16:33, 20 August 2021 (UTC)


Hi Liance thanks for your input, very much appreciated. in the article, i mentioned a notable work the producer has produced ( [[Carpe Diem (Olamide album)|Carpe Diem]] ) and cited a newspaper publication that talked about it. can you please see and get back. Thanks again for your input.

:Still doesn't appear to satisfy [[WP:MUSICBIO]] - which criteria? -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 01:20, 21 August 2021 (UTC)


== Submission declined ==


Hi Liance, thanks for reviewing my [[Draft:Mohammad Ifrahim]]. I want to draw your attention towards the references 3 & 4 that you seem to have ignored, perhaps due to in a foreign language but I think they do make a case for significance and notability in favor of the subject. The subject was interviewed by Radio Pakistan that meets the criterion for notability for music artists i.e "Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network" and also by a private tv channel ARY (and few others) and you know private channels being highly sensitive about their rankings wouldn't risk their ratings by interviewing an insignificant person. So I request you to revisit ref.3&4 and let me know if I am wrong. Thanks! [[User:Insight 3|Insight 3]] ([[User talk:Insight 3|talk]]) 06:10, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

:Hello {{u|Insight 3}} - firstly, interviews are not independent of the subject (they are [[WP:PRIMARY|primary sources]]) and thus cannot be used to establish notability. Additionally I was not able to review reference 4 in detail because I cannot access it due to a geolocation block, but even while considering this I did not feel that the subject satisfied the criteria outlined in [[WP:MUSICBIO]]. If the subject was indeed part of a significant broadcast segment please provide written, [[WP:SECONDARY|secondary sources]] that demonstrate this instead of the video broadcast itself. Hope this helps. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 16:38, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liance, thanks for answering. I would ask if the "interview of singer Mohammad Ifrahim" is posted on the official website of Radio Pakistan, doesn't this itself confirm that he was part of a broadcast segment? Moreover, I have added a few more sources to [[Draft:Mohammad Ifrahim]] and resubmitted it, so please check it again. Your guidance is much appreciated! [[User:Insight 3|Insight 3]] ([[User talk:Insight 3|talk]]) 05:33, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|Insight 3}} - interviews are primary sources and not independent of the subject meaning they are not an eligible source. I will allow another editor to review the draft for the sake of fairness and obtaining a new perspective. Cheers -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 23:02, 27 August 2021 (UTC)


== Further guidance on SPIN-Farming article submission still confused sorry ==


Your reply

Hello again Annstarlet, in order for inclusion on wikipedia the subject must meet notability guidelines for organizations, please see WP:ORGCRIT. You will need to provide secondary, independent, and reliable references that demonstrate the subject meets these criteria and is notable. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:32, 20 August 2021 (UTC)


My question

Thanks for continued guidance. The guideline you cited (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies)#Primary_criteria) says: The corporation, organization, group, product, or service is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject.


My read of this is:

The corporation, organization, group, product, or service [SPIN Farming] is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage [written about] in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject.[magazines, newspapers, research papers.]

But these were not acceptable, so I am still confused. Thanks for helping me clarify this.

:No worries {{u|Annstarlet}}, thank you for being open to feedback. For notability the subject needs to have significant coverage (i.e. no passing mentions) in multiple independent sources (cannot be associated or attain information directly from subject). If you have any additional references that meet this criteria please add it to the draft. All articles on Wikipedia need to have verifiable information so please add a citation to every fact you provide on the article with an inline citation (see [[WP:CS]] and [[WP:ILC]] for help). Once you have done this feel free to resubmit the draft for review. It may help to pick out the [[WP:THREE]] best references and list them at [[Draft talk:SPIN Farming]] for reviewers. Please let me know if there are any more questions. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 01:14, 21 August 2021 (UTC)


== Help ==


I need help with creating a bio can you be of any help? contact me on lolavivi365@gmail.com [[User:Stan Lower|Stan Lower]] ([[User talk:Stan Lower|talk]]) 00:27, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

:Autobiographies on Wikipedia are highly discouraged, if you are a notable subject someone will create an article given time. If you would like help on creating an article [[WP:TEAHOUSE]] would be the best place to ask. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 01:17, 22 August 2021 (UTC)


== MultiFAZE (Multiple Fixed-Axis Shaft Compound Eccentric) Mechanism ==


Hi Liance,


Thank you for your speedy reply. I think I know what you want. I do have a reference that would probably meet Wikipedia requirements plus a number of abstracts and two very poor quality photos, all on the internet, BUT they refer not to the invention described in the patent mentioned in my draft contribution, but to a later copy of the invention: Just 5 months after the patent application mentioned was published, a couple of professors filed an application of their own (later abandoned and replaced) for the same mechanism, built two prototypes for tests and published the results and held lectures at events organised by such internationally respected institutions as the SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers). A whole series of scientific papers on the subject are available against payment.


This must confirm the „notability“ of the invention. However, it would in my opinion be wrong if any article in Wikipedia gave the slightest impression that the mechanism was the invention of the professors. This would surely be „alternative facts“ and run contrary to Wikipedia's stringent rules. They claim to have carried out a patent search and found „nothing remotely similar“, and that „the idea to develop the engine first came ... in 1979“, but anyone can say that and what counts is the priority dates of the patents.


I would be grateful for your suggestions as to how to handle this?


Kind regards, Bryllig

:{{u|Bryllig}}, this does indeed appear to be a complex situation. Unfortunately for inclusion on WP all articles must meet the notability criteria laid out in [[WP:GNG]] (significant coverage in multiple secondary, reliable sources independent from the subject) with preferably public access sources available. I am not sure if your subject can qualify as an article, but you may consider raising the same question at a help center at [[WP:Teahouse]] in case any other editors have any ideas. Hope this helps. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 00:44, 24 August 2021 (UTC)


:{{u|Liance}}, I should perhaps mention

1. that the Cardan hypocyclic gear and Archimedes trammel mechanisms are already in WP. They are both compound eccentric mechanisms that convert reciprocating motion to rotary motion via elliptical motion and vice-versa. The mechanism I am offering does exactly the same, which is plain to see, you don't need a PhD (but it is more robust and less prone to wear). So if the other two have made it into WP, the new one should make it too. And anyone who is interested in the other two would surely also be just as interested in the new one - possibly more so.


2. I have taken another look at the references and abstracts for the plagiarised mechanism and found the name of one of hte professors among the authors in each, so as I understand it, he would not be able to use them in WP as it would be "original research" - but I could, because they are simultaneously "secondary sources" for the original MultiFAZE mechanism. If two university professors doing research and development work on a copy of the mechanism (under a different name) over a decade or so doesn't make the original notable, what does?


3. The abstracts, of course, give links to technical papers that are freely available on the internet to anyone against payment. Thus they provide verifiable, objective evidence from independent sources. I haven't ordered any, since my experience is that one could spend a lot of money on stuff that contains only titbits of interesting information.

As I understand it, references have to exist but do not need to be included in the article.


[[[[User:Bryllig|Bryllig]] ([[User talk:Bryllig|talk]]) 21:58, 24 August 2021 (UTC)]]

:{{u|Bryllig}}, in the two articles you mentioned both have references in published sources which qualify them for articles. I am not an engineer by trade or expertise, but your draft article in its current state only links to a patent registrar which does not meet notability criteria outlined in [[WP:GNG]]. Please [[WP:CS|cite your sources]] (namely the technical papers and abstracts you mentioned) so that reviewers can properly review the notability of the subject - without including references in the article we have no way of judging its notability. Best, -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 22:08, 24 August 2021 (UTC)


:{{u|Liance}}, Thanks. I have tacked the reference sources onto the end of the draft and would tidy it up later if approved.[[[[User:Bryllig|Bryllig]] ([[User talk:Bryllig|talk]]) 23:07, 24 August 2021 (UTC)]]

::No problem {{u|Bryllig}} - just a note that on Wikipedia references should be provided as [[WP:ILC|inline citations]] (as you formatted your patent). Once you feel that you are ready for it to be reviewed again there should be a button on the draft that will resubmit it for feedback. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 04:24, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


:{{u|Liance}}, I will be watching this space every day. A search for Stiller-Smith with Google turns up some drawings and photos, and further publications can be found on www.researchgate.net.

[[[[User:Bryllig|Bryllig]] ([[User talk:Bryllig|talk]]) 21:21, 25 August 2021 (UTC)]]

::{{u|Bryllig}} your draft is currently not submitted for review - if you wish for editors to re-evaluate it please resubmit it with the button on the draft's page. Best, -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 23:01, 27 August 2021 (UTC)


:{{u|Liance}}, I've been trying to shorten the draft but if anything it seems to have got longer, so i think it's time it was reviewed.--09:55, 8 October 2021 (UTC)~Bryllig~~


== Moved article ==


Thank you for moving the article Benneth Nwankwo to its appropriate space. I look forward to working with you in the future.

[[User:Olugold|Olugold]] ([[User talk:Olugold|talk]]) 16:00, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

:No problem. Let me know if you have any questions. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 16:32, 24 August 2021 (UTC)


== Adding tags ==


Hi. Please how do I add tags when drafting an article?

How do I add tags to an already submitted article for review?

Thank you.--[[User:Olugold|Olugold]] ([[User talk:Olugold|talk]]) 16:50, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|Olugold}} what tags are you attempting to add? Maintenence tags are typically not added to draft articles. If you would like to declare a COI then you can add <nowiki>{{COI|date=August 2021}}</nowiki> to the top. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 17:12, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|Liance}} I saw a suggestion that it is oksy to tag artucle so that it would be easy for editors to locate such article. The draft was declined though because of copyright issues. I will edit and resubmit. thank you so much.--[[User:Olugold|Olugold]] ([[User talk:Olugold|talk]]) 21:38, 24 August 2021 (UTC)



== Un-accepted Submission ==


Hi Liance, thanks for reviewing my first submission. I was hoping you would have a suggestion on what would be considered "significant coverage" of Guild Insurance Limited. There are several more sources of information written about this company, but I thought the reliable sources of government sites with factual information would have been better. Do you have any suggestions on how to improve this? or is it better to abandon, and find something better with more significant sources to create an article on?[[User:DanTaylor4|DanTaylor4]] ([[User talk:DanTaylor4|talk]]) 05:35, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|DanTaylor4}} - please review [[WP:ORGCRIT]] as well as [[WP:NCORP]] for the notability criteria for companies and organizations on Wikipedia. Sources require significant, independent coverage in secondary sources - government sources are not independent of the subject and do not demonstrate significant, non-trivial coverage. I would include all references you feel meet this criteria in the form of citations to meet this criteria. Hope this helps. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 23:00, 27 August 2021 (UTC)


== Request on 12:36:05, 25 August 2021 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Breezingsorrow ==

{{anchor|12:36:05, 25 August 2021 review of submission by Breezingsorrow}}

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I had researched Mehdi Khorramdel, he is a political commentator, <ref>https://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/mondo/mediooriente/2019/04/27/guerra-yemen-si-stimano-230.000-morti_f36aef22-a730-4951-8856-f366ce2abbb7.html</ref> <ref>https://insidearabia.com/iranians-pin-hope-on-biden-with-dose-of-realism/</ref> <ref>https://www.avvenire.it/mondo/pagine/yemen-guerra-senza-fine</ref> <ref>https://en.mehrnews.com/news/143881/37th-FIFF-Film-Market-to-screen-48-Iranian-titles</ref> Italian, Arabic and Iranian sources has published his opinions on regional issues, and he is active as a documentary maker. I know this doesn't make him Steve Jobs, but he is notable enough to have a voice in the Middle East. He is repeatedly been quoted as a source in BBC Persia, <ref>https://www.bbc.com/persian/iran-58183262</ref>. <ref>https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iranian-press-review-islamophobic-comments-bbc-persian-cause-outcry</ref> Due to governmental censorship in Iran, journalists have no other outlet except their personal accounts to express their opinion. So twitter plays a major role in acquiring independent news and opinions. And Khorramdel definitely fill the criteria as a notable media personality as a source for independent news about Iran. I just don't know how to incorporate this information in an article and cite it.

[[User:Breezingsorrow|Breezingsorrow]] ([[User talk:Breezingsorrow|talk]]) 12:36, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

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:{{u|Breezingsorrow}}, please review the criteria at [[WP:BIO]] see the criteria necessary for notability establishment. At the time of the review, one source was IMDb, another was a list of movies (trivial mention), and one was about one of the subject's films. As per [[WP:BIO]] significant coverage on the subject themself is required, not focused on their work. I see that there have been further edits to the draft, but regardless I hope this information helps. Best, -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 23:05, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

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== Complaints ==


The (God) page is not correct. [[User:DVG Lover of GOD|DVG Lover of GOD]] ([[User talk:DVG Lover of GOD|talk]]) 20:53, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

:It seems like you are [[WP:NOTHERE]] to contribute constructively from your edit history - but, in case you are, there's nothing stopping you from editing the page itself or [[Talk:God]] if you don't have access. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 01:27, 31 August 2021 (UTC)


== Help-review ==


Hi {{u|Liance}}.

Please can you go through this biography [[User:Olugold/sandbox]] before I submit to AFC.

Also feel free to point out areas that need to be edited. Thank you for all your responses.[[User:Olugold|Olugold]] ([[User talk:Olugold|talk]]) 12:45, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|Olugold}}, I have moved your draft to [[Draft:Benneth Nwankwo]]. It may be helpful to pick out the [[WP:THREE]] best references to aid the reviewer who will evaluate your article. Best of luck. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 22:25, 31 August 2021 (UTC)


:{{u|Liance}} thank you so much for all your efforts--[[User:Olugold|Olugold]] ([[User talk:Olugold|talk]]) 14:08, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


== Update ==


Hello Liance, Please I will like to know if there is an update yet on my last submission (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Bi-Courtney_Aviation_Services_Limited). Been checking for days now, and seems it's still being reviewed.

:{{u|Jomafa}}, there is currently a backlog for draft articles and it may be a while before yours will be reviewed by a volunteer. You should receive a talk page message when it is reviewed. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 22:28, 31 August 2021 (UTC)


== Request on 15:45:42, 1 September 2021 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Devandijk ==

{{anchor|15:45:42, 1 September 2021 review of submission by Devandijk}}

{{Lafc|username=Devandijk|ts=15:45:42, 1 September 2021|declinedtalk=Draft:David_Eduard_van_Dijk}}


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Thanks for your help.


Couple of issues raised:


Autobiography - this is not a personal page - the user devandijk was created so that I (Jacques van Dijk) can create this page and is solely intended to allow capture of the information related to his career as a scientist. Since my father recently published at age 95years, the plan was to put up a wiki page in time for his birthday.


References/Citation:


I'll have to read up on what needs references. Some of the biographical information is obviously based on personal communication. Books/Publications I am relying on ResearchGate etc.


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:Hi {{u|Devandijk}} - I assumed the draft was an autobiography per your username, my apologies. Since you have a conflict of interest with the subject, please see [[WP:DISCLOSE]] on how to declare your relationship. I denied your draft because it did not have any inline citations. On Wikipedia information must be [[WP:VERIFY|verified]], original research is not accepted. This means that, for every fact you write out, there must a citation to back it up, please see [[WP:CS]] for more info. Lastly take a look at [[WP:PROF]] for notability criteria regarding academics - if your father does not meet these criteria then unfortunately he is not eligible for inclusion, though I feel that this should not be an issue. Hope this helps. Best, -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 17:19, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


== Thank you! ==


Thanks for the help/advice! I'm clearly new here so I appreciate all the help I can get. [[User:Progrockwzrd|Progrockwzrd]] ([[User talk:Progrockwzrd|talk]]) 16:23, 2 September 2021 (UTC)Progrockwzrd

:No problem, please let me know if you ever need assistance! -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 18:43, 2 September 2021 (UTC)


== Reference list ==


Hi {{u|Liance}}. After editing the [[Draft:Benneth_Nwankwo|draft]] as you suggested, I noticed some links to the references turned purple, the same color with the external links. I observed that reference links are blue. Please I need clarity on this. Thank you so much--[[User:Olugold|Olugold]] ([[User talk:Olugold|talk]]) 23:12, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|Olugold}} the draft looks fine for me. In most modern web browsers clicked hyperlinks will turn purple which could explain the issue you are having. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 20:34, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much {{u|Liance}}. Yes, I actually remembered I clicked on those links to check their authenticity.--[[User:Olugold|Olugold]] ([[User talk:Olugold|talk]]) 07:01, 4 September 2021 (UTC)


== Which interviews not independent and in what way(s)? ==


Hi, [[User:Liance|Liance]].


You reviewed my proposed article on Emily Fan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Greg_Dahlen/sandbox, but declined it. You wrote, "Interviews are not independent of the subject." Can you give me more info here? None of the interviews are independent, and in what way(s)? Thanks [[User:Greg Dahlen|Greg Dahlen]] ([[User talk:Greg Dahlen|talk]]) 20:12, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

:Hey {{u|Greg Dahlen}} - articles on Wikipedia require notability to be demonstrated by sources that are [[WP:INDEPENDENT|independent of the subject]] and [[WP:SECONDARY|secondary]] - interviews do not demonstrate notability b/c they are directly associated with the subject of the article. This also includes the YouTube links you cited as well, as they were published by the subject and user-contributed sites almost never qualify as reliable sources. For biographies of living people, articles need to satisfy criteria outlined in [[WP:BASIC]]/[[WP:BIO]] for inclusion. Hope this helps. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 20:40, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

::Thanks, [[User:Liance|Liance]]. Well, for example, one interview https://www.clichemag.com/interviews/youtuber-not-even-emily-opens-up-about-identity-and-balancing-social-media-with-career/ is on Cliche Magazine. You say not a legit publication? It does have a Wikipedia article [[Cliche Magazine]]. [[User:Greg Dahlen|Greg Dahlen]] ([[User talk:Greg Dahlen|talk]]) 14:17, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

:::{{u|Greg Dahlen}}, the magazine is a legitimate publication - but on WP we require specific criteria to prove that a subject is ''[[WP:BIO|notable]]''. In this sense interviews are not valid since they do not demonstrate independent coverage from a secondary source, regardless of how legitimate or reliable a publication is. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 12:58, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

::::Thanks, {{u|Liance}}. Yes, now that I'm looking, I do see that interviews are not often used as the references for Wikipedia articles. Do you know why this is? Does the Wikipedia editor community doubt that a publication would check the information given in an interview? But a secondary article can go unchecked too.


::::I would think that the information in many secondary articles used as references in Wikipedia articles about people is taken wholly from an interview with the person, but the interview is not mentioned.


::::I would think that an interview would establish notability in the sense that it shows the person was important enough to be interviewed? [[User:Greg Dahlen|Greg Dahlen]] ([[User talk:Greg Dahlen|talk]]) 15:40, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

:::::{{u|Greg Dahlen}} I think there's a bit of confusion here - interviews are, most of the time, perfectly fine to reference in an article. They are often the most reliable sources of information when a secondary source is not available and can be used to verify facts when published by a reliable source. ''However'' in the case of accepting draft articles what needs to be demonstrated is '''''notability''''' - that the subject is well-known enough and article-worthy. Interviews generally do not satisfy notability criteria, which is detailed at pages like [[WP:BIO]]. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 16:02, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

::::::Thanks [[User:Liance|Liance]]. I'm still trying to understand the relationship between interviews and notability. In the meantime, had you noticed that one of my references in this proposed article about Emily Fan is from Wikitubia https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Not_Even_Emily? Wikitubia is like Wikipedia for YouTube creators. Would her having an article on Wikitubia establish sufficient notability for Wikipedia, alone I suppose or in conjunction with the other references? [[User:Greg Dahlen|Greg Dahlen]] ([[User talk:Greg Dahlen|talk]]) 07:58, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

{{u|Greg Dahlen}} Unfortunately [[WP:SPS|self-published sources]] are not considered notable nor independent on WP since they are editable and creatable by anyone. Notability requires independent coverage from detached, reliable sources - if you can find more of those related to your subject that would be most helpful. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 14:28, 1 October 2021 (UTC)


== Draft:Dale Trotman ==


Hi, [[User:Liance|Liance]].


Could you give me some examples to the issues you had with the article? I would greatly appreciate it. Below is what you stated.


This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dale_Trotman

:Hi {{u|BarcaRei}} - articles on WP must be written entirely from a neutral point of view. This means avoiding "peacock" words like "genuinely efficient, user-friendly" (see [[WP:PEACOCK]]) and segments like "These setbacks didn't stop Trotman's ambition; it grew his desire to be an entrepreneur" as they are not written [[WP:NPOV|from a neutral point of view]]. Lastly, all stated facts should be cited by [[WP:ILC|inline citations]] - much of the draft is unsourced, please add these where they are currently absent for verifiability. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 13:06, 5 September 2021 (UTC)


== Shezhen RAKwireless ==


Thanks Liance! WP:THREE currently would be: <ref>https://fortune.com/2021/04/26/the-lowdown-on-bidens-capital-gain-tax-rate-2/</ref>


<ref>https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/370427</ref> and <ref>https://www.techrepublic.com/article/global-chip-shortage-how-manufacturers-can-cope-over-the-long-term/</ref>


although I am currently about to ask another editor why half of the page was removed (with other citations). Thank you![[User:CopyKait|CopyKait]] ([[User talk:CopyKait|talk]]) 17:31, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|CopyKait}}, please list these references at the top of the draft page you are submitting so reviewers can see them. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 17:35, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

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Sorry. Thanks! Done! [[User:CopyKait|CopyKait]] ([[User talk:CopyKait|talk]]) 17:43, 6 September 2021 (UTC)


== Draft:V-Sag ==


Hi Liance, thank you for reviewing my draft page of the artist V-Sag. I rearranged and changed the references but they all refer correctly how this artist is notable and have contributed in the music scene and they are all mainstream and very well known sources and websites in Greece. I was wondering if there is a problem that they are in Greek, since that he is a Greek artist, most of his references are within greek sources and news websites.


Thank you for your time.

:{{u|Renaki1983}} References can be in foreign languages. Your draft was declined because it is not clear how the artist meets the notability criteria outlined in [[WP:MUSIC]] - please make this apparent in your article before resubmitting for review. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 16:04, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


== Request on 18:36:39, 7 September 2021 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Jamesfbrown ==

{{anchor|18:36:39, 7 September 2021 review of submission by Jamesfbrown}}

{{Lafc|username=Jamesfbrown|ts=18:36:39, 7 September 2021|declinedtalk=User:Jamesfbrown/Cytonix}}


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Thank you lance, I have added a link to the Patent Office and a link to the Cytonix home page. I'm trying make a "starter" page that I can then elaborate with more content and references. I will visit the Teahouse once I get this started. Obviously, I'm a beginner at creating Wiki pages.

Thanks again for your consideration,

Jim[[User:Jamesfbrown|Jamesfbrown]] ([[User talk:Jamesfbrown|talk]]) 18:36, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


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:{{u|Jamesfbrown}} please see [[WP:NCORP]] - all articles about companies must demonstrate notability via significant coverage in multiple secondary, independent, reliable sources. Your draft currently does not meet this criteria, more references are needed to demonstrate notability at this time. Do not hesitate to let me know if any more help is needed. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 20:37, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


== Request on 22:31:49, 7 September 2021 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Jamesfbrown ==

{{anchor|22:31:49, 7 September 2021 review of submission by Jamesfbrown}}

{{Lafc|username=Jamesfbrown|ts=22:31:49, 7 September 2021|declinedtalk=User:Jamesfbrown/Cytonix}}


Hi Lance, would any or some of the references below contribute to Cytonix notability? Sorry, it's a long list. I actually stopped making as the list was getting long.

Thanks, Jim<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> Hope I did that correctly.

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https://patents.justia.com/assignee/cytonix


https://www.unlvrebelyell.com/future-prospects-of-anti-fingerprint-coating-market-by-2027-agc-inc-cytonix-llc-daikin-industries-ltd-essilor-international-s-a-harves-co/


https://www.pr.com/press-release/31544


https://manometcurrent.com/anti-fingerprint-coatings-market-2021-scenario-of-global-manufacturers-agc-carl-zeiss-cytonix-daikin-industries-essilor-international-izovac-janos-technology/


https://manometcurrent.com/anti-smudge-coatings-market-size-and-forecast-2021-2028-top-key-vendors-huzheng-nano-science-technology-co-ltd-de-cie-gmbh-aculon-inc-akzo-nobel-n-v-cytonix-llc-nanokote/


https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?setid=a8d482d1-2925-107f-e053-2995a90ab812


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrowetting


https://au.news.yahoo.com/insights-superhydrophobic-coatings-global-market-141400847.html


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Microfluidics


https://vip-news.tv/2021/09/04/anti-fingerprint-beschichtungen-marktgrose-2021-und-prognose-bis-2026-schnelles-wachstum-mit-modernen-trends-entwicklungsstrategie-geschaftsaussichten-marktanteil-und-wachstumsrate-umsatz-und-praz/


https://www.dandb.com/businessdirectory/cytonixcorporation-beltsville-md-10497020.html


https://europepmc.org/article/PAT/US6143496


https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-36615-6


https://www.mccourier.com/massive-growth-of-anti-icing-coating-market-by-2027-cytonix-nei-corporation-dowdupont-neverwet-fraunhofer-gesellschaft/


https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-04342-z


https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/insights-superhydrophobic-coatings-global-market-141400847.html


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0015028216575621


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https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/sequenom-inc-announces-exclusive-licensing-agreement-with-genomic-nanosystems-for-digital-pcr-technologies-and-methods-patents-/


https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6246&context=facpub


https://uphyl.pratt.duke.edu/pubs/Guo_19_APL.pdf


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6248632/


https://www.owler.com/company/cytonix


https://amt.copernicus.org/articles/9/4561/2016/amt-9-4561-2016.pdf


https://ipnpr.jpl.nasa.gov/progress_report/42-145/145G.pdf


https://aerosol.chem.uci.edu/publications/Irvine/2021_Maclean_caryophyllene_SOA_viscosity.pdf


https://hackteria.org/wiki/Elektrowetting


https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.1619548


https://briefs.techconnect.org/wp-content/volumes/TCB2016v1/pdf/427.pdf


http://www.nanolab.uc.edu/Publications/PDFfiles/374.pdf


https://europepmc.org/article/PAT/US6143496


https://asa.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1121/1.5137670


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https://ideaexchange.uakron.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1013&context=honors_research_projects


https://www.genomeweb.com/companies/cytonix


https://www.labmanager.com/insights/insights-on-digital-pcr-5440


https://www.genomeweb.com/life-technologies-acquires-cytonix


https://findwords.info/term/cytonix#


https://www.gene-quantification.de/digital.html


https://www.genengnews.com/topics/omics/life-technologies-acquires-biotrove-to-bolster-pcr-business/


https://www.sendd.com/~webdrop/ezproxy/200904/2008_Annual_Report.pdf


https://seekingalpha.com/article/201219-life-technologies-corporation-q1-2010-earnings-call-transcript


https://uspto.report/patent/app/20150212043


https://www.formulasearchengine.com/wiki/Electrowetting


https://europepmc.org/article/PMC/4348619


https://lookformedical.com/en/search/microtechnology

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<!-- End of message -->[[User:Jamesfbrown|Jamesfbrown]] ([[User talk:Jamesfbrown|talk]]) 22:31, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|Jamesfbrown}} Your message was hidden and some links were blacklisted by the site so I have de-commented, removed some links and made it visible in collapse form. Please cite these on your draft article so the next reviewer can evaluate them. Any sources you cite must be reliable, independent of the subject, secondary, and show significant coverage ([[WP:SIGCOV]]) of the subject. Do not cite wikis, product pages, press releases, etc. as these do not fit the criteria. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 01:41, 8 September 2021 (UTC)


== Updated page ==


Hi Liance, I took on your feedback for my page submission. Please can you review it again? Every source I have added is from a credible third party publisher or resource - content that Elemed does not own. Thanks [[User:Jmpelemed|Jmpelemed]] ([[User talk:Jmpelemed|talk]]) 12:51, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|Jmpelemed}} please add a [[WP:LEAD]] section to your draft (start with the "'''Elemed''' is a..." sentence) so readers know what it refers to immediately. External links should not be present in the body of the article and should be removed. Lastly, the article still may not meet [[WP:NCORP]] - you need reliable, secondary, independent sources with significant coverage, meaning nothing connected to the company itself. For the sake of fairness I will allow another editor to have the final say in the next review but I hope this helped. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 16:29, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


== Draft:V-Sag ==


Hello Liance! Thank you for your suggestions. I rearranged the content and have added better references. If you could please review it again, and if it needs anything it would be really helpful if you could suggest it! Thank you!

:{{u|Renaki1983}} Please make sure your subject meets the [[WP:NMUSIC]] criteria (add sources for national charting and mention which organization honored them as DJ of the month) and make this apparent via your references if you can find more. Since I reviewed your draft last time I will allow another editor to review it this time. Best, -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 16:33, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

== Draft:Phineas Kimathi ==



Thank you Liance, i am still new to wikipidea and learning the craft day by day. My article was rejected due to lack of adequate support by reliable sources, citiation. i also tried to upload images but they were all rejected as well. Could you offer more guidance on this. --[[User:TeehGiant|TeehGiant]] ([[User talk:TeehGiant|talk]]) 11:05, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|TeehGiant}} please cite your sources (see [[WP:CS]] [[WP:ILC]]) properly as inline citations. Wikipedia should not be cited as a source. Also review the [[WP:BASIC]] criteria to make sure your references are suitable. Uploaded files must be your own work or freely useable or fit under fair use rationale. Once you have done this you can resubmit [[Draft:Phineas Kimathi]] for review. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 16:36, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


== Elongate article ==


Hello [[User:Liance]], I'm reaching out because you're listed as a contributor to the Cryptocurrency WikiProject.

I am trying to get a draft published in the Cryptocurrency domain, but it's a bit difficult as the reviewers seem to have an opposition to the topic of crypto as a whole. Meanwhile there are other topics published with significantly less notability. As you are knowledgeable on the subject, could you please look at the draft and let me know if you can assist? Thank you! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Elongate_(cryptocurrency)

:Hey {{u|Salamanderxander}} - I am not as involved with the crypto WikiProject as much now, but thanks for reaching out.

:The editors who reviewed your draft are correct about it appearing non-notable - cryptocurrency notability criteria is usually evaluated under the [[WP:NCORP]] criteria, and states that significant coverage must be demonstrated in secondary, independent, reliable sources. Most of the sources you included do not meet this criteria; crypto-centric news sites and blogs are generally considered non-reliable. Many of the articles you cite mention the subject in passing rather than as their primary subject, and are not [[WP:INDEPENDENT]] of the subject either and associated in some way.

:If you feel that Elongate is notable your best bet would be to find the [[WP:THREE]] best sources and reach out to the editor who rejected your draft with them and argue for its notability, if it is indeed non-notable then it's not suitable for a Wikipedia article. Keep in mind live articles that do not meet their respective notability criteria may exist but will be inevitably removed given enough time. Hope this helps. Best, -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 16:45, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


== Further guidance on SPIN-Farming article submission - updated status ==


your most recent reply:

No worries Annstarlet, thank you for being open to feedback. For notability the subject needs to have significant coverage (i.e. no passing mentions) in multiple independent sources (cannot be associated or attain information directly from subject). If you have any additional references that meet this criteria please add it to the draft. All articles on Wikipedia need to have verifiable information so please add a citation to every fact you provide on the article with an inline citation (see WP:CS and WP:ILC for help). Once you have done this feel free to resubmit the draft for review. It may help to pick out the WP:THREE best references and list them at Draft talk:SPIN Farming for reviewers. Please let me know if there are any more questions. -Liancetalk/contribs 01:14, 21 August 2021 (UTC)


my reply:

Sorry to have been out of touch. I got pulled away by other projects. I know SPIN-Farming and its creator Wally Satzewich have been cited in 2 books, so I will include them as references. I see that I need to provide context also. I will also edit down what it is and how it works, and instead explain it in relation to its noteworthy place in the development of local food systems and figure out how to use those inline citations. This will take a while and my time is still short right now. I intend to get back to this later this year, yet. Thanks again for your help and will check in again when I have something new to review.

:Assuming this is {{u|Annstarlet}} via IP - just want to let you know that drafts will be deleted with 6 months of inactivity, but administrators can recover them if a deletion occurs. Best of luck. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 16:57, 13 September 2021 (UTC)


== Glow Christmas ==


Hi, Liance. How are you? I saw you were the one who reviewed the entry about [[Draft:Glow Christmas|Glow Christmas]]. I already made some changes regarding the references and other style elements. Could you please review it again and tell me if it's fit to be published? Thanks.

:{{u|Julio1017}} the draft seems to have been improved significantly - I will let another editor review it for publication for the sake of fairness. However I noticed that the draft's title is "Glow Christmas" but all sources online refer to it as "Glow Gardens" but the latter is not mentioned in the article. You may wish to change the draft's name if the company's name has changed. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 16:59, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

::{{u|Liance}} Done, thank you very much.


== Dylan Redwine draft ==


I'm confused by your wording, do you mean we need like CNN or NBC articles instead of local outlets? [[User:HumanHistory1|HumanHistory1]] ([[User talk:HumanHistory1|talk]]) 17:24, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|HumanHistory1}} - your draft was declined because it didn't meet the [[WP:EVENT|notability criteria for events]] and had only 2 local news outlets cited at the time of writing. Wikipedia is [[WP:NOTNEWS|not a news site]] and few events are notable enough for inclusion. Please review notability criteria for events before resubmitting. Best, -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 17:21, 15 September 2021 (UTC)


==(Misplaced message)==

Lance, you reviewed an article and declined to publish since there was little or no context given - I agree. My article is intended to as an addition to an existing Wikipedia page titled p-Norms while my article begins discussing the derivative of the p-norm. I need add a discussion of the motivational background for interest in this derivative, although many mathematicians would be familiar with that information. I need help in merging my article with the existing article on p-norms rather than re-writing that information. Should I simply edit the existing article?[[User:RalphZero|RalphZero]] ([[User talk:RalphZero|talk]]) 19:18, 14 September 2021 (UTC)


[[User:RalphZero|RalphZero]] ([[User talk:RalphZero|talk]]) 19:18, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|RalphZero}} yes, please edit the article itself. Drafts should be submitted only for new entries. Be bold and add your changes to the article directly! -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 17:22, 15 September 2021 (UTC)


== Praxis EMR ==


Hello Liance, I tagged you on my talk page regarding my latest [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Praxis_Electronic_Medical_Record submission]. I am confident that there are enough reliable, independent sources that show the notability of the subject. Could you take a second look at references 3,5,8 and 9? Those are the main ones I've been working with. Thanks in advance. [[User:Astropolar13|<span style="color: white; text-shadow: 0 0 1px #fff, 0 0 2px #fff, 0 0 3px #379091, 0 0 4px #379091, 0 0 5px #52cacc, 0 0 6px #52cacc;">Astropolar13</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Astropolar13|<span style="color:black;">talk</span>]]</sup> 02:23, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

:I will respond on your talk page shortly. Best, -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 17:23, 15 September 2021 (UTC)


==Better now?==

Hi Liance :)

Is this better? I made the article of prof. van Tulder shorter

[[User:Vacca13/sandbox]]

Thanks,

[[User:Vacca13|Vacca13]] ([[User talk:Vacca13|talk]]) 16:10, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|Vacca13}} The "selected publications" section is still too long and should be shortened. Additionally please review [[Wikipedia:Notability (academics)]] and ensure it is apparent how your subject meets this criteria. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 17:24, 15 September 2021 (UTC)


==[[Montero (album)]]==

Hello, Liance,


I moved this page from Draft space into main space and, in the process, deleted all of the redirects to this page! Damn Twinkle! They've all been restored and so if you want to clean up the page after AFC acceptance, it's ready for you. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 23:51, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

:Much appreciated {{u|Liz}} :) -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 01:42, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

:Just for reference, which redirects were deleted? -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 01:45, 16 September 2021 (UTC)


== Janko de Beer, which I submitted to Articles for creation. ==


Hi Liance,


Thank you so much for your feedback and helpful comments. I have removed all the fluff i.e publications, interviews, works, exhibitions, etc. as requested. I think the topic reads much better now, thanks :-)


Let me know what you think when you get the chance and if there is anything else you can recommend.


Best,

Annie

--13:29, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[[User:Annie Paterson|Annie Paterson]] ([[User talk:Annie Paterson|talk]])

:{{u|Annie Paterson}} I would recommend picking out the [[WP:THREE]] best secondary sources that demonstrate significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject (see [[WP:BASIC]]) on [[Draft talk:Janko de Beer]]. This will help reviewers properly evaluate if the subject is notable enough for inclusion. Best, -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 16:16, 17 September 2021 (UTC)


== Article needs review ASAP!! ==


Hello, i hope you are good

Excuse me, but there is an article that needs to be published as soon as it is related to one of the institutes and it must be reviewed before the start of the new school year, which is next week!

I think you reviewed it previously and rejected it because it lacks references only.. Now references have been added and re-requested for revision, but it has been pending for a while for some reason.. I hope you can help me.

This is the article:

[[Draft:Pyramids Higher Institute for Engineering and Technology]]

[[User:Shahba3049|Shahba3049]] ([[User talk:Shahba3049|talk]]) 14:42, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|Shahba3049}} many of the references you added are in Arabic - unfortunately I cannot understand the language and am not able to properly evaluate it. You may wish to ask at the [[WP:AFC Helpdesk]] or visit [[WP:WikiProject Articles for creation/List of reviewers by subject]] to find someone who can read Arabic. Also, please note that [[WP:DEADLINE|there are no deadlines on Wikipedia]] - an article not ready for publication will not be live until it satisfies Wikipedia policies. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 16:13, 17 September 2021 (UTC)


== New article and its review ==


Dear Liance

Thank you for reaching out. I would like to ask you 2 questions:

1. Does my draft article await an editor review? (or should I do some additional steps for it?)

2. Regarding the article with the same name in different language - Are they independently revised or should I wait for my english article to be reviewed before I work on it in Ukrainian?

Thank you!

:Hey {{u|Evolutionary Virologist}} - your article is currently in the review queue and a volunteer will review it for publication, but you are free to edit it in the meantime. I moved it to the Draft namespace since that is where draft articles should be kept.

:The article review process is independent across wikis so feel free to work on a version on the Ukranian Wikipedia at any time. Hope this helps! -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 18:35, 18 September 2021 (UTC)


== Removed your review of [[Draft:Praxis Electronic Medical Record]] ==


I recently rejected Praxis Electronic Medical Record for being resubmitted without improvement, but as it turned out it was resubmitted because you told the submitter at [[User talk:Astropolar13]] to resubmit as you said "I now realize that I was not able to properly evaluate the sources", so I had to undo that rejection. In the future, it would probably be best if you remove a decline if you later feel as if it was in error or it was improper in some way (I tend to reject article that are repeatedly resubmitted w/o improvement and in this case that is what happened). I went ahead and removed it for you in this particular case but please be aware of this in the future. [[User:Chess|Chess]] ([[User talk:Chess|talk]]) <small>(please use&#32;{{tlx|reply to|Chess}} on reply)</small><!--Template:Please ping--> 19:28, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|Chess}}, my apologies for not removing the decline - I will be sure to do so in the future if something like this happens again and make it clear to other reviewers that I instructed the submitter to re-submit. Thank you so much for the heads up. Best, -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 19:31, 20 September 2021 (UTC)


== Submission Declined ==


Hi Liance,Thanks for taking the time to review my first submission. The reason mentioned is This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.


As am new to this, can you please help me to understand why it is declined and what i can do to make it live.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lee_wizard/sandbox

:{{u|Lee wizard}}, your draft was denied because you did not demonstrate notability - on Wikipedia notability must be established via significant coverage ([[WP:SIGCOV]]) in reliable ([[WP:RS]]), independent ([[WP:INDEPENDENT]]) sources. Please review [[WP:NCORP]] for the relevant criteria. Your second reference is a PR news site which is not independent of the subject, and the third one is a link to the company's website which is also not independent. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 14:27, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

:Additionally please remove all external links from the body of your draft before resubmitting. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 14:28, 23 September 2021 (UTC)


== Resubmitted the Declined Article==


Hi Liance, i have edited my declined article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lee_wizard/sandbox, the updated article is now in sandbox. I did the edits based on your comments. So please let me know what i need to do next, to get the approval of my page.


== Accepted [[Baldi's Basics in Education and Learning]] ==


You didn't submit the draft, but given your significant improvement of it in draftspace I thought you might want to know I accepted it. [[User:Chess|Chess]] ([[User talk:Chess|talk]]) <small>(please use&#32;{{tlx|reply to|Chess}} on reply)</small><!--Template:Please ping--> 14:23, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

:Thanks for the heads up {{u|Chess}}! -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 14:24, 23 September 2021 (UTC)


== js13kgames ==


Hi Liance! Thank you for taking a look at our page, it's great to have a pro like you helping out.


I'm, Frank Force, a game developer representing the js13kgames community.


JS13k has just run it's 10th annual contest with 223 entries, and a massive community that participates in other ways. We are a very inclusive and friendly group from beginners to expert developers. All our games are open source on github as per contest rules for people to learn from. I believe this contest is a valuable resource to the game dev and programming communities which is why I participate.


We put a lot of work into this article and finding every legit independent sources possible. It has been somewhat difficult because mainstream media does not tend to cover game jams! However I believe we put together a solid article with many references and even several books that have been in print for years.


In response to your original comment I removed all references that cite the js13kgames website but the very first one which links to the rules. We also found some more sources and I've integrated those and done several other things to improve the article.


Judging is currently underway and several hundred people would be over the moon if we could get this Wikipedia article published before results are announced.


Would love it if you could take another look and help us get this across the finish line. I'm happy to jump on anything you see and fix it right away. Thanks!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Js13kGames

:Hey {{u|Slackluster}}, thanks for reaching out. First and foremost you want to declare a conflict of interest - on Wikipedia it is required for you to do this to maintain neutrality for all editors and content. You can take a look at [[WP:DCOI]] for more details on this. Next I would recommend picking the [[WP:THREE]] best references that show significant coverage in secondary, reliable, independent sources; you can list these at [[Draft talk:Js13kGames]] and leave a note at the top of the draft for the next reviewer. These would greatly help with streamlining the review process. Please let me know if you have any more questions! -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 00:02, 25 September 2021 (UTC)


:Thanks {{u|Liance}}! I've updated the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_talk:Js13kGames JS13K talk page] with my conflict of interest and the three best references. Let me know if there is anything else I can do.


== Mistakenly moved an article from draft[[User:Qafui1987|Qafui1987]] ([[User talk:Qafui1987|talk]]) 12:20, 24 September 2021 (UTC) ==


Dear Liance,


I am new at contributing on Wikipedia. Last week, you moved my first article from my sandbox to draft and it's has been pending review. Unfortunately, while I was trying to learn my way around, I mistakenly moved the article from draft to article. I noticed it does not have the 'pending review notice' on it anymore. Any idea how I can get it back to draft and have it reviewed and approved on time?


Edit: I've movd the article back to draft now but it still isn't showing the pending review notice. Here is the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jide_S._Awobona


Your help is greatly appreciated.

:{{u|Qafui1987}} I have submitted the draft for review on your behalf. Let me know if that works. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 00:02, 25 September 2021 (UTC)


Thank you Liance. I got one review. I will check it out now. You've been very helpful [[User:Qafui1987|Qafui1987]] ([[User talk:Qafui1987|talk]]) 06:17, 25 September 2021 (UTC)


==Resubmitted the Declined Article==


Hi Liance,


I have been edited the declined article based on your comments and published. Please have a look

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lee_wizard/sandbox


Sincerely Respected Liance, If You have any recommendations for improvement, I will be glad if You improve. We can improve everything in our life. God Bless You + [[User:Antimonopolist|Antimonopolist]] ([[User talk:Antimonopolist|talk]]) 10:01, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

:{{u|Lee wizard}} {{u|Antimonopolist}} If you are one person using multiple wiki accounts please note that this is not allowed and a violation of Wikipedia policy and you may face a ban - please declare your use of multiple accounts and only stick to one. Companies need to display notability and meet the criteria outlined at [[WP:NCORP]] through reliable independent sources w/ significant coverage which are not currently present in the draft. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 14:36, 1 October 2021 (UTC)


==Resubmitted the Declined Article==


Dear Liance,


I didn't get your above reply, i have only one wiki account _ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lee_wizard.

You declined my first article on september 21st 2021, and i edited the same article based on your comments on last week.

Here is my updated one : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lee_wizard/sandbox

Please have a look and let me know the steps forward


== Resubmitted the Declined Article: Revaz Lordkipanidze works and activities for anti-hidden-monopoly policy+ ==


Sincerely Respected Liance, I have only one account. I do not know who Lee wizard. I had another account a long time ago, but I forgot my password and closed it and I am not using it now. I am a sincere believer. Christ was tortured by monopolists pilatе-like and as the modern authors of covid-19, but He will still shine on mankind.[[User:Antimonopolist|Antimonopolist]] ([[User talk:Antimonopolist|talk]]) 21:00, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


== Orchid Conservation Alliance ==


Hi Liance, I re-worked the Orchid Conservation Alliance page removing what was self-referential and adding references from other credible sources and resubmitted it. I wondered if anyone had looked at it? Sorry if this is still working its way through the editorial backlog. [[User:KinNCa|KinNCa]] ([[User talk:KinNCa|talk]]) 21:24, 10 October 2021 (UTC)KinNCa[[User:KinNCa|KinNCa]] ([[User talk:KinNCa|talk]]) 21:24, 10 October 2021 (UTC)


== Resubmitted the declined article ==


Dear Liance,


It would be great if you can go through my resubmitted article and kindly letting me know the next step. As this my first article in Wikipedia am not much familiar with the article publishing steps. I did the edits on the declined article based on your commends and published in the sandbox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lee_wizard/sandbox <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lee wizard|Lee wizard]] ([[User talk:Lee wizard#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lee wizard|contribs]]) 05:27, 11 October 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Why the article, [[Draft:Diamond_(crystallography)]] is rejected ==


Hi [[User:Liance|Sir]],

Please tell me why you rejected the [[Draft:Diamond_(crystallography)|wiki page]]. I could not find any particular reason.

Is there any meaning in improving the page once again?

[[User:Rahulsoman|Rahulsoman]] ([[User talk:Rahulsoman|talk]]) 21:35, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

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== Charm Opener - Clasp Opener resubmission ==


Hello Liance - Thank you for reviewing the submission of Charm/clasp openers. As per your instructions, we added references to reliable and well known independent sources. [[User:Diams18|Diams18]] ([[User talk:Diams18|talk]]) 04:58, 21 October 2021 (UTC).


== Roland Bacon page ==


Thanks for reviewing the [[Roland Bacon]] page. This page is an English translation of the French page which has been published since a few years. I am not very familiar with the wikipedia editing and thus I appreciate your help. Note that the content is fully identical to the French page. The reason to have an English translation of this page is that I will probably soon move to US and then I think it is appropriate to have an English version of this page.

Thanks again for your help.

[[User:RolandBacon|RolandBacon]] ([[User talk:RolandBacon|talk]]) 15:22, 15 November 2021 (UTC)


== Adding new page ==


Hi! Thanks for the quick review on my first attempt at a page (PAR Government Systems Corp.). I will dig deeper and try to find independent sources as you noted. If I run into any problems I will reach out for guidance. Thanks

[[User:Sienwhy227|Sienwhy227]] ([[User talk:Sienwhy227|talk]]) 15:26, 15 November 2021 (UTC)Seinwhy227


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== Dexerto Draft submission ==


Hey, page for [[Draft:Dexerto|Dexerto]] was declined for lack of "significant coverage" in sources. It has 14 sources total, The subject of the article is one of the top 40 gaming websites in the US, but given the nature of news websites, it is near impossible to provide the sources suggested in Wikipedia's 'general notability guidelines' - most news websites are not the subject of coverage themselves.


When reviewing the Wikipedia pages of similar websites, there are no such references given (in fact almost all that I have checked have far fewer independent sources, and some none at all). I am informed that rules around this have changed which is why these websites have pages with such scant references.


Could you please advise on the best approach here, or if it is simply not possible, given the oddly specific notability guidelines which seem to not apply to news websites at all, to have a Wikipedia page for such a large and well-read website? This would strike as odd given the size of the site, and the state of other wiki pages about smaller websites, with fewer references.


Thanks


[[User:Calcium17|Calcium17]] ([[User talk:Calcium17|talk]]) 14:26, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

:Another editor has since left feedback on your draft as to why it does not meet notability guidelines yet. If you still need assistance please let me know. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 04:49, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

:{{u|Calcium17}}, I apologize - it seems that I confused your message with another editor's (I noticed this a few minutes ago while I was cleaning up old talk page messages). If you are still working on this draft I would first recommend taking a look at [[WP:ORGCRIT]] and [[WP:CORPDEPTH]], as they outline what is required of articles regarding organizations on WP, which is somewhat higher than that required of other subjects. References need to be secondary, independent, in reliable sources, and demonstrate significant coverage to establish notability; acquisitions, etc are considered trivial/routine coverage and thus do not qualify. If you wish to resubmit the draft for review I recommend following the advice at [[WP:THREE]] and leaving a note on the draft to let reviewers know.

:Lastly, there are indeed pages that do not conform to our current guidelines. You are more than welcome to nominate these pages for deletion but do note that Wikipedia is a [[WP:WIP|work in progress]] and that [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]]. If you have any more questions do not hesitate to reach out. Best, -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 02:35, 23 February 2022 (UTC)


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== Help with draft ==


Hello. I have edited [[Draft:Brooks Rehabilitation]] draft for review and would like some feedback before submitting for approval. You were involved in reviewing a previous draft. I would like to improve the article and am looking for help to ensure I am meeting the Wikipedia Guidelines. I believe the content is written from a neutral point of view and the sources meet the criteria. I would appreciate any direction you can provide. To be fully transparent, I have a declared COI with Brooks Rehabilitation.. Thank you [[User:Lauradavis44|Lauradavis44]] ([[User talk:Lauradavis44|talk]]) 18:39, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

:{{u|Lauradavis44}} - in its current state the draft does not quite appear to demonstrate why the subject is notable. On Wikipedia, subjects must be covered significantly in multiple independent, reliable sources ([[WP:GNG]]) - much of the references in the draft at the moment are passing mentions. Could you try to locate [[WP:THREE]] best sources which demonstrate notability to help reviewers? Thank you. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 04:48, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


== Draft: Pawthereum submission declined ==


Hi Liance,


I wanted to discuss the reasoning for the above-referenced Articles for Creation submission being declined and I hope the decision can be re-evaluated.


First, I'm hoping you can clarify your comment: '''Evaluating as organization as almost all coverage appears to be about the foundation. Lacks significant (non-trivial) coverage in multiple reliable sources. YouTube, crypto news outlets are not considered to be reliable sources. -Liancetalk/contribs 10:25, 17 February 2022 (UTC).''' What I don't understand about this, is "evaluating as organization as almost all coverage appears to be about the foundation." None of the coverage is about the foundation. The foundation was recently formed and there is only one line about the foundation that was included in the article itself, for thoroughness. All of the news coverage is about Pawthereum, the cryptocurrency, so I do not know how you reached the conclusion that you did.


Second, the reason for the submission being declined: '''This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

'''


I did read the page on notability, etc. that lays out the guidelines for what sources count, and by that guideline, I believe the article should qualify. I'd like to go through the sources one by one and discuss the ones that I believe should qualify (I don't necessarily agree with you that crypto news outlets aren't reliable sources but I understand the reasoning, so we can agree to not count those. I also understand the reasoning regarding Youtube but it is strange that an AMA from the largest cryptocurrency subreddit wouldn't count considering, 1. it is very significant, especially considering the significance of the guest speaker and size of that subreddit and 2. the AMA is 100% independent from Pawthereum).


Anyway, I think arguably these should count:

Source #5, NewsTimes

#10 InvestorPlace

#12 Benzinga

#15 Edinburgh News

#17 People.com

#18 The Newtown Bee


From what I understand the number of sources needed is 3. Are we saying that, disregarding all of the other sources I didn't mention, that there aren't at least 3 sources out of these 6 that qualify?


I appreciate you taking a look and reviewing this article, but I don't see the reasoning being applied to the decision lining up with Wikipedia's guidelines, so I do not agree with the decision making here and would appreciate a response to the points I've raised. If the decision can be re-evaluated, that would be ideal. If the reasoning can be explained and the reasoning is supported by Wikipedia's guidelines, I can accept the decision, but otherwise I will have to respectfully contest this decision.


Thank you,


[[User:CatDadoftheYear|CatDadoftheYear]] ([[User talk:CatDadoftheYear|talk]]) 19:26, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

:Hey {{u|CatDadoftheYear}}, thanks for reaching out. I evaluated your draft based on criteria for notability of organizations (see [[WP:ORGCRIT]]) because the coverage you cited focused primarily on the organization behind the project and its charitable donations. If, say, coverage and article content primarily concerned price movements or distributed technology behind the subject instead, then I would have approached it with the general notability guidelines. Regardless, I didn't feel that the subject was notable - on Wikipedia, significant coverage in multiple [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] is required. Of the sources you picked I would consider Edinburgh, People.com and Newtown to be reliable, however significant coverage is lacking in the People.com source (it is only mentioned briefly at the end). Lastly [[WP:LOCALCOVERAGE]] for one-time events such as donations generally do not establish notability strongly and is not means for a draft's publication. As always if you make changes to your draft and feel that you have fixed these issues you can re-submit for another editor to review with the "Re-submit" button on your draft page. Best, -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 23:19, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


Thanks, this does help clarify things. Appreciate your feedback.[[User:CatDadoftheYear|CatDadoftheYear]] ([[User talk:CatDadoftheYear|talk]]) 00:21, 18 February 2022 (UTC)


== Orphan article ==


Hello Liance,


Many thanks for accepting/editing my new article "membrane scaling" in Wikipedia. I see a message that this article has an issue:

* Orphan article

I added links to my article and also to other articles where "membrane scaling" was just mentioned. So the reader in other articles can check in detail what membrane scaling is. But, I still see that my article is shown as orphan. How to resolve this?


Thank you!

:Hey {{u|Mangal359}} - I see that the links are working properly so you can disregard the message. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 23:28, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


== Request on 20:57:49, 17 February 2022 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by LeonidasNSFW ==

{{anchor|20:57:49, 17 February 2022 review of submission by LeonidasNSFW}}

{{Lafc|username=LeonidasNSFW|ts=20:57:49, 17 February 2022|declinedtalk=User:LeonidasNSFW/sandbox}}


I don't understand why my submission hasn't been accepted.


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Hi there,


I have submitted a lengthy bio for me as a musician/artist and included all of the information required whilst looking up other professional musicians with a similar template. Can you please explain in detail what it is I need to change as I am incredibly keen to get my wikipedia page up and running.


<!-- End of message -->[[User:LeonidasNSFW|LeonidasNSFW]] ([[User talk:LeonidasNSFW|talk]]) 20:57, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

:Hey {{u|LeonidasNSFW}} - first off, just to let you know autobiographies on Wikipedia are [[WP:AUTO|generally discouraged]] since they introduce issues regarding neutrality. Your draft was declined because it did not meet one or more of the [[WP:MUSICBIO|musician notability criteria]]. Please review those before resubmitting. Best, -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 23:31, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


==[[Second Contact]]==

Hello, Liance,


It doesn't look like the draft you want to move to main space is ready to appear in the article space of the project. It seems like it is still in the process of being reviewed. Until it is "main space ready", it is unlikely that an administrator will complete this move that you requested. Eventually, there might be an admin who will decide, "What the heck, I'll do the move" but I'm not sure how long that will take. Most moves from Draft space to main space look like regular articles without all of the AFC tags. Just giving you a head's up, from a patrolling admin's perspective. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 01:27, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

:{{u|Liz}}, apologies for that - I was meaning to accept the draft to mainspace but the AfC script did not allow me to do so before the redirect was deleted, so I tagged the page with <nowiki>{{db-afc-move}}</nowiki>. Should I just tag it with a G6 next time instead or is there a seperate procedure for situations like this? Best, -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 01:57, 21 February 2022 (UTC)


== [[Draft:Shin Japan Heroes Universe]] ==


Greetings, I'm Fico. I thank you for what you did for the "Shin Japan Heroes Universe" draft. However, I must admit I need from people who really know more about those franchises than I do. In my country, I barely know a little about Godzilla, and then, nothing more. Therefore, I would appreciate the need of more help from other users. Thank you so much. Sincerely, Fico. (Perhaps, other live action and animated intellectual properties from other third parties can join this project, but of course, it is too soon to speculate.) [[User:Fico Puricelli|Fico Puricelli]] ([[User talk:Fico Puricelli|talk]]) 16:46, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

:Hey {{u|Fico Puricelli}} - thank you so much for your contributions :) Unfortunately I have little to no expertise regarding the media franchise you're writing about, I moved your draft to the correct namespace during AfC review. Perhaps you could try asking for help at a WikiProject since they tend to have very experienced and helpful editors who specialize in those areas? I looked around a bit it seems like [[WP:WikiProject Anime and manga/Evangelion]] and [[WP:WikiProject Tokusatsu]] would be good places to start! Best of luck. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 00:18, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

:: Thank you so much, and my apologies to you for the problem. [[User:Fico Puricelli|Fico Puricelli]] ([[User talk:Fico Puricelli|talk]]) 04:44, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

:::No need to apologize! If you have any additional questions don't hesitate to reach out again. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 04:49, 22 February 2022 (UTC)


== dideye dito ==


how can there even be any other sources/citation, that all sites there are. There are only two original sources online. Those are the only source of published content. There isnt any other way to do anything. Also, what other sources are there for a webcomic than the webcomic itself? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ChiserYT|ChiserYT]] ([[User talk:ChiserYT#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ChiserYT|contribs]]) 19:09, 22 February 2022 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:{{u|ChiserYT}}, I understand that a draft decline is frustrating. On Wikipedia content must meet the [[WP:GNG|notability guidelines]] to qualify for an article - otherwise they will be deleted quickly by editors. Content must be supported by reliable, independent, secondary sources, and original sources do not qualify for this unfortunately, and your subject might not be notable enough for inclusion if you are unable to procure more sources. Hope this helps and don't hesitate to reach out again if you have more questions. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 22:55, 22 February 2022 (UTC)


== Request on 03:09:39, 23 February 2022 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by TrueVindicator ==

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{{Lafc|username=TrueVindicator|ts=03:09:39, 23 February 2022|declinedtalk=Draft:Ennè}}

Hi Liance, could you please give me more explanation as to why my draft was declined?

:Hey {{u|TrueVindicator}} - as noted on your draft article, it was declined because it fell short of the criteria listed at [[WP:MUSICBIO]] that describes the requirements a music-related biography must meet for inclusion on the encyclopedia. I would review that page and identify on which basis your subject could be notable, then update the references on your draft accordingly if you wish to resubmit. Additionally, since you are writing a [[WP:BLP|biography of a living person]] please note that any statement you write must be backed up by a neutral, verifiable, and reliable [[WP:ILC|inline citation]]. If you have any more questions let me know. Hope this helps! -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 03:16, 23 February 2022 (UTC)


== Draft:DineWight ==


Hey Liance! Thank you for taking the time to review one of my first significant contributions. I have resubmitted the page for review, maybe you could take another look and let me know if there is anything more I need to do for it to reach the required level of satisfaction to be published on the Wiki please. I've contributed to other pages but it would be cool to have contributed a whole page. Congratulations on 21,000 edits too, that's some milestone! <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Knowall23|Knowall23]] ([[User talk:Knowall23#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Knowall23|contribs]]) 16:00, 23 February 2022 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Hey {{u|Knowall23}}, thanks for reaching out. On Wikipedia companies must meet the [[WP:NCORP|organization notability criteria]] which means they must demonstrate significant coverage in reliable sources that are unaffiliated with the subject. I noticed that the coverage you provided was mostly [[WP:LOCALCOVERAGE]] - do note that coverage beyond local sources helps to establish notability, and if you can find any I would add them to your draft. Hope this helps! -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 20:00, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

:Hey {{u|Liance}}, appreciate you getting back to me. For this company I am unable to find any other sources than from official local independent news outlets, nothing by the mainstream media. As this is a purely local business it is unlikely it will hit the mainstream media. What are the chances of this being published without mainstream media articles? There are plenty of local articles as referenced. Thanks. --[[User:Knowall23|Knowall23]] ([[User talk:Knowall23|talk]]) 22:43, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

::Unfortunately Wikipedia policies on corporations are quite stringent - [[WP:ORGCRIT]] outlines the criteria needed to establish notability for a company, which are considerably more specific than say the [[WP:GNG|general notability guideline]]. You are welcome to resubmit the draft for review by another editor but without satisfying the necessary criteria I'm unsure if the subject is suitable for inclusion. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 18:01, 24 February 2022 (UTC)


== Request on 18:07:48, 24 February 2022 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Zade.ali ==

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Reliable sources like where? I put all reliable-looking English web pages that a google search returned for this university in the page. Can you provide an example that would have this entry accepted?


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:Hey {{u|Zade.ali}} - as I mentioned on your draft, your article needs <code>significant coverage in unaffiliated, reliable sources</code> - [[WP:GNG]] has a good overview which goes in-depth regarding what defines a source as reliable. Ranking websites and links to entries in database websites, which you cited, don't qualify as significant nor reliable coverage. Hope this helps. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 21:07, 24 February 2022 (UTC)


== The Walking Zombie 2 ==

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Sir last time you rejected my draft 'The Walking Zombie 2' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Walking_Zombie_2) but compared to that time I have made extensive changes in it. Sir please check it again and approve it for an article. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Billapartygang123|Billapartygang123]] ([[User talk:Billapartygang123#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Billapartygang123|contribs]]) 08:27, 27 February 2022 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Extensive Changes Done ==


Liance sir, please check my draft of the walking zombie 2. I have done extensive changes to it compared to last time. please confirm it for an article.

[[User:Billapartygang123|Billapartygang123]] ([[User talk:Billapartygang123|talk]]) 07:37, 28 February 2022 (UTC)Billapartygang123


== PLEASE HELP!!!!!😨😭 ==


Hi LIance sir, please approve my draft of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Walking_Zombie_2|The Walking Zombie 2]]. Now it's perfectly fine for a Wikipedia article to have many independent sources. If you don't check it I will keep spamming messages to you every day.[[User:Billapartygang123|Billapartygang123]] ([[User talk:Billapartygang123|talk]]) 12:42, 1 March 2022 (UTC)


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== Please Read This Liance Sir ==


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Billapartygang123

[[User:Billapartygang123|Billapartygang123]] ([[User talk:Billapartygang123|talk]]) 15:25, 1 March 2022 (UTC)


== Draft: Grand Theft Auto 6 ==


Hi Liance, please at least acknowledge my posts let alone approve my draft lease reply something or I will report you to Wikipedia moderator/admin.

[[User:Billapartygang123|Billapartygang123]] ([[User talk:Billapartygang123|talk]]) 06:29, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

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:Billapartygang123 warned for making threats. [[User:David notMD|David notMD]] ([[User talk:David notMD|talk]]) 13:39, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

::Thanks for the help. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 00:01, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

:{{u|Billapartygang123}} Draft reviewers are volunteers who contribute when they can, and sending repeated threats for a few days of inactivity is seen as disruptive behavior and won't help your chances for getting a re-review (in fact, it could lead to a block in many cases). Please be resourceful and use the [[WP:AFCHELP|AfC helpdesk]] or the [[WP:Teahouse|Teahouse]] in the future instead.

:Your draft article was rejected because it did not sufficiently meet the [[WP:NGAME|notability criteria for video games]] after multiple resubmissions, and another reviewer has since rejected it again. Video games, like all topics, must have significant coverage in multiple sources that are secondary and independent of (unaffiliated with) the subject. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 00:14, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

== Draft: Gorilla Tag ==


Hi Liance, Can you please tell me the things I need to edit for the Gorilla Tag draft? It would be much appreciated if you did! :D


- OGxSLAY3R

:Hi {{u|OGxSLAY3R}} - as other reviewers have noted the draft requires additional coverage in reliable sources to meet the criteria for video game notability at [[WP:NGAME]]. An editor has since rejected the draft which means it is deemed non-notable for inclusion and should not be resubmitted unless you can present sources that demonstrate its notability per [[WP:NGAME]]. -[[User:Liance|Liance]]<sup>[[User_talk:Liance|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Liance|contribs]]</sup> 00:30, 8 March 2022 (UTC)



== Sincere Apology ==

== Sincere Apology ==




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Hello, Why you renamed this page from "Fats Domino Recordings" to "List of Fats Domino Studio Recordings"?

  1. There are not only studio recordings, buth both studio and live ones, please look at entire article.
  2. This is not only a list (titles only), but a session-o-graphy and discography of first release of each listed recording.

So your renaming seems be unjustified. In addition, you did this without any prior discussion, putting me as the author of the page before the fact. RocknRollArchivist (talk) 08:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi there, I felt that re-naming the article to a "list" was appropriate because the article primarily listed out recordings - additional information about each recording is appreciated, but does not change the fact that it a list per wiki standards despite additional table information (see Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists). However it is my mistake that I added "studio" to the title - I have since moved the draft again to rectify this mistake. Hope this helped. -Liancetalk/contribs 17:46, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Maskoor_Usmani I occasionally edit Wiki articles and one of my recent page creation requests were declined. I researched and added more information post the rejection and also found out that the article adheres to Wikipedia's notability guidelines as there are over 70 credible references on the internet mentioning him. A Youtube search also reveals that he is a regular debater on national television in India. I plan to update the article with more information over time. Could you please share some insights on what to improvise upon, I really am trying to learn contributing to Wikipedia. AkkiDeutscher (talk) 13:55, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Liance,

Thank you for the feedback for my submission of the UK Coronavirus Cancer Monitoring Project Wikipedia page. Since your review, there has been more coverage of the project, namely a commentary in a high-impact peer-reviewed medical journal (paper: https://doi.org/10.1016/S1470-2045(20)30230-8) and letters of support. Would addition of these references with other minor edits are likely to be sufficient for accepting the page?

Many thanks! TStarkeyBham (talk) 13:55, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi TStarkeyBham, so sorry for the long delay for a response. The draft seems notable enough for inclusion now. If you resubmit the article I could move it to the mainspace and accept it. Thanks, -Liancetalk/contribs 02:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

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Hello Liance! Thank you for your feedback (within minutes versus the 5 weeks I anticipated). This is my first wiki attempt and am struggling with adding references and flow. The reason I think Dirk deserves a wiki page is that he is a an early Linux and open source contributor, going on to help found several of the open source foundations and calls to action on diversity and inclusion in this space. I have additional references to add: https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3000 https://www.usenix.org/legacy/publications/library/proceedings/als00/2000papers/papers/full_papers/hohndel/hohndel_html/index.html and could add a list of links for keynotes. Is that would you are looking? Sincerely Malini Bhandaru (talk) 00:48, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Liance, I got the hang of the edit UI and a sense of flow (I think) .. hope the major re-write addresses the concerns you raised. Looking forward to hearing from you. Wishing you a good weekend. Malini Bhandaru (talk) 08:08, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Malini Bhandaru, I took a look at the draft. However, I noticed that nearly all (except one or two) sources with coverage directly related to Dirk Hohndel were interviews - these generally don't satisfy the requirements of being independent of the subject (which is criteria needed to satisfy notability for people. Additional sources that are independent and significant coverage of the subject might be needed. Hope this helped. -Liancetalk/contribs 03:54, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Liance To review Alireza Kohany's page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Alireza_Kohany I am not Alireza Kohany! I'm just a fan of Alireza Kohany, If you look closely at the film's website, Alireza Kohany's roles in those films are mentioned. Is it possible to confirm the article?

Hi KohanyAlireza - firstly, I would recommend you change your username since your current name may imply that you are impersonating Alireza Kohany, which could be confusing for other editors and result in a block. Currently, the article's references do not meet the notability requirements which outline the need for additional references in secondary, independent sources; user-contributed websites like IMDb and wikipedia in other languages do not qualify for this. If you want the draft to be accepted then more sources will be needed. Hope this helped. -Liancetalk/contribs 03:47, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Liance

Regarding your review and declining of this article on the Mish-mash dish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mish-mash_(food)

First of, thank you for your fast review.

I have added 3 more references to notable blogs in English. The problem is, I don't think there are many references in encyclopedias and science magazines about Balkan cuisine. This dish is neither controversial, nor widely spread around the world - it is just a beloved local dish tourists and locals eat around here. So many people around the world know what a Banitsa pastry is, or Tripe soup, yet look at the wikipedia pages on those subjects and there are no more reliable references than the ones I've provided - food blogs and local literature, something translated to English at best. My point is, I can dig up 50 more references for this stub article, and all food blogs and local cooking shows, but it will get ridiculous.

Also, is it common for a topic to be on disambiguation page, but to lack notoriety to have an article? - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mish_Mash

Also, I've asked here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#19:15:39,_10_June_2020_review_of_draft_by_ShadowBee What is your oppinion? If you have any advise, I will appreciate it. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShadowBee (talkcontribs) 19:58, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi ShadowBee, I have added a few more sources and accepted your draft. Thanks for your contributions! I will also add it to the mish-mash disambig page. -Liancetalk/contribs 21:20, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you, Liance. I just thought I'd say that WildEarth should be considered a "notable companies", as they are the most well-known organisation when it comes to live-streamed African safaris. If you disagree with this, and think another company is more well-known for it, feel free to let me know. Also, I updated it to include more news links, and also links to other companies and reserves that they work with. Redstoneprime (talk) 20:04, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Redstoneprime - regardless of how 'well-known' a company is for inclusion the draft must demonstrate this by showing significant indepth coverage via multiple independent reliable sources (WP:CORP) - user contributed sources and those linked to the subject (WildEarth in this case) do not qualify, so this would include youtube, twitch, the company website itself, etc. Overall I felt that more indepth coverage was needed for this to be demonstrated. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 21:26, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Liance Understood. Redstoneprime (talk) 08:25, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Great, let me know if anything else comes up -Liancetalk/contribs 17:38, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Liance I've added some links to more news articles. If I find anything else I'll make sure to add them. Redstoneprime (talk) 08:47, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Liance, I recently had n wiki article declined. Reason being, it read more as an advertisement. I have made numerous edits and I want to make sure the article fits the guidelines. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sinical Mweberjr (talk) 04:35, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Mweberjr, you should remove the external links from the body text of your draft since those are generally not used anywhere in the main content. Additionally, take a look at WP:NMUSIC for notability guidelines on music-related topics. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 01:22, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello Liance,

prior to submitting my content, I did look through most if not all the pertinent material Wiki has on inclusion. I did not include multiple sources (see below) because the article would look busy in the draft format Wiki uses. My intent would be to include two to three (cited) references. in the published version because the formatting there allows for citing.

Is this acceptable or should I give up?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/5785602/virtual-girlfriend-ar-blade-runner-2049/

https://optocrypto.com/soon-virtual-girlfriend-ar-will-available-download-hololens/

https://virtualrealityreporter.com/3d-hologroup-release-3d-holo-girlfriend-ar-app/

https://www.corecommunique.com/3d-hologroup-inc-has-released-the-first-adult-oriented-augmented-reality-content-for-microsofts-hololens-and-meta-visions-meta2-with-its-opening-of-3d-holo-girlfriend/

https://mspoweruser.com/first-adult-title-comes-to-the-microsoft-hololens/

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-best-AR-porn-sites-in-2018

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/technology/in-other-news/210318/make-virtual-girlfriend-hololens-augmented-reality-hologram.html

Mlcastellanos - these sources should be cited in the draft article via inline citations, as they are the only way a subject can establish notability on wikipedia. This can be done with <ref> tags, and external links in the body should be removed. As long as your provided sources are secondary and independent of the subject they are acceptable. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 01:25, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello Liance, what about putting information about the college in a section about educational institutions in the article about Yamfo? Then the draft can be deleted until the college achieves enough notoriety to justify an article. Thanks, ... PeterEasthope (talk) 21:08, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi PeterEasthope, if you feel like notability can't be established at this moment if the college is notable in the area I feel that a mention in the article Yamfo would be appropriate. -Liancetalk/contribs 03:47, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
Criteria in Wikipedia should be established objectively. Compliance should not be the opinion of one person.

CoHY is growing as rapidly as any college in my locale. Program offerings and courses will grow. Within a lifetime, CoHY is likely to become a university. In principle CoHY is as notable as many other institutions having articles. But how is notability established? With contemporary electronic communications there is no hardcopy newspaper with a story about CoHY.

Please have a look at the article about Douglas College. The references to Global News and to the Vancouver Sun give blank pages. Those references are effectively dead. The last reference is to a Province of BC page addressing accreditation of institutions in general; no mention of Douglas College. The other references are internal. The Douglas College article really doesn't have references satisfying notability criteria. Many similar examples exist and I don't mean to criticize the DC article in particular. The only way I see to satisfy notability honestly is for the institution to have faculty who publish notable scholarly work. Work which is published in scientific and other journals and can be cited. Criteria should apply honestly and without discrimination. Regards, ... PeterEasthope (talk) 14:15, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

PeterEasthope, please read up on the Wikipedia notability guidelines which require articles to be supported by reliable sources in secondary, independent publications - currently your draft reflects none of this and cannot be accepted in this form. If your subject is "as notable as many other institutions having articles" then sources must be provided to show this, otherwise that notability does not exist by Wikipedia standards. Douglas College is easily notable, there is no such thing as a "dead reference" (in that case most news articles published in the past would be considered dead, which is absurd) and Google easily brings up many more reliable sources. If you think your subject also has notability please show this through the use of references. Thx -Liancetalk/contribs 16:09, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Liance, thank you for the warm welcome. Working on some drafts now, valiant sir! Newmusicgeeking (talk) 03:42, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Newmusicgeeking that's great to hear, let me know if anything is needed! -Liancetalk/contribs 03:46, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Liance, Thanks for looking at the draft page for Lary Walker. I think the content of the page is reasonable, but there is a bit of redundancy because I list some of his important publications, and then some of them also show up in the reference section. Do you think this is a problem? I SHOULD be better at all of this, because I have my students do Wiki pages for class, so apologies. But, at least this adventure is getting me to become more comfortable with the editing process! BrainMan2017 (talk) 16:29, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi BrainMan2017 - I think that should be fine, as long as academic notability is shown via reliable, independent secondary sources as well. -Liancetalk/contribs 00:51, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Liance, Super. Thanks for reviewing the page!! BrainMan2017 (talk) 02:50, 17 June 2020 (UTC) Liance, I actually went in and fixed one of the references, which was not active. Lary Walker is a hugely important scientist in the field of Alzheimer's disease, being the first to show how pathology spreads (along with his colleague, Matt Jucker).BrainMan2017 (talk) 03:17, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Lance,

Thanks for your recent review of my article. I'm still a newbie and I was about to ask my teacher for help regarding whether to edit the sandbox or the article directly. Your comment helped a lot. Thanks Dazen31415 (talk) 00:04, 17 June 2020 (UTC) 17/06/2020

No problem Dazen31415, glad to be of help. On the wiki we generally directly edit the articles so content can be tracked via revision history. Let me know if anything else comes up! -Liancetalk/contribs 00:46, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello Liance,

There is a problem in the page (Kingdom of Jeypore). For the past three months one user is constantly deleting and editing our work. In the beginning he deleted most of the research saying that the evidence is from sources of British Raj. Due to the neglect this area is facing from the Indian and state government since 1947, there are not enough books written on the history of the dynasty but still we tried our best and provided a lot of modern and relevant references to support our article.

However the last two paragraphs under post titlular ruler has one reference from the Times of India newspaper that mentions the coronation of the new titular king of the dynasty. But this user called Rexxx deletes it every time saying it’s unreliable. How is a big sensational news of this kind can be considered unreliable. We have many newspapers mentioning the event and we are ready to provide to whomsoever if required. But pleas please ask this man to stop editing because he is creating a bit unhealthy atmosphere and not letting us concentrate on making this article better. Mihirbhoj (talk) 03:08, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Please help to check it, I have removed all the possible primary source. Abbas Kwarbai (talk) 13:08, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello again, I have added some additional references that show that the term is starting to be widely used. what do you think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeneralComment (talkcontribs) 21:48, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Thank you for using your time to review the Generation C entry. I have added more references to show the notability. It is true that being something so new, the references are still not thousands but you can see that the term is being used worldwide and also in some important sites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeneralComment (talkcontribs) 11:21, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

The submission has reached 24 hours without any response. Is it clearly shows that the article is now accepted to go for reviewing? Please I will like to have positive response from you sir Abbas Kwarbai (talk) 15:46, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Liance, thank you for accepting my article on Scantrust, which is now in Mainspace. I see however at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed that "the page is still unreviewed", and so I am not not clear on what will happen next, if anything. I was wondering if it is usual for an accepted article to be unreviewed. Does this this mean that other reviewers will review it in the near future? Many thanks, Factfox (talk) 12:29, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Liance, I saw you are active in the cryptocurrency wikiproject. Would you care to weigh in at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bitcoin_Improvement_Proposal? --187.178.163.96 (talk) 21:09, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Hey Liance!

I have resubmitted the wiki page on BCB Blockchin as per your comments. I have added in more credible links and supporting evidences. Please do take a look at your convienient time and let me know if any further changes needed. Looking forward to hearing from you very soon. Thank you

link: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:BCB_Blockchain_(Blockchain_Protocol)&action=edit&oldid=965072351 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nisha9796 (talkcontribs) 04:31, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi Liance!

I have redone the topic ( K C Pandey ) I had tried during my first submission (which was refused). I did a thorough study for AFC as per Wikipedia & about the topic & worked on it! I don't want this time time to fail , so I humbly request to give a quick look at my creation & let me know the flaws if any before final review to publish. I understand about the time constraint so I'm asking for just an overview. If done I'll be able to make the changes as advised! I'll be highly thankful . Though being my 1st AFC I'll keep updating on the subject as I get to know more of it. I think I'm clear with my words.


Warm Regds, Shekhar in (talk) 01:09, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for moving my draft article. Still finding my feet! Reader265 (talk) 09:54, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm MDanielsBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Lito Adiwang, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

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My article about emteria.OS is rejected because of not enough supporting references, and I added new references and resubmitted it. While I check with other similar OS pages, my references looks the same supporting and valid. Would you help me about which parts do not have enough references in order to change or delete them from my article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farzaneh.mostafaei (talkcontribs) 13:25, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Liance. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Lito Adiwang".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:08, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Liance,

Hope this finds you well. Thank you for your feedback on our BCB Blockchain (BCB Protocol) wiki entry. I understand that there was an issue with the supporting sources added in. We have edited and resubmitted the draft. I hope the revised version meets the guidelines better. Kindly let me know if we should resubmit the draft as a new entry and/or if there any changes to be made. We are new to this and are concerned about being declined again. If there are any other way we can get it reviewed successfully, kindly please let me know. Looking forward to hearing from you very soon. Best, Nisha.

˜˜˜˜ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2406:3003:2060:1221:1040:5E1B:998A:C2F7 (talk) 09:47, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

In January you declined an article that I wrote about an actor. I have re-written the article and added a number of citations and links. I'm not sure about how the Wikipedia platform works and have been fumbling around with it. Can you tell me if my article has actually been submitted for review, and if you could take a look at it? Thanks! Jim Barfly (talk) 20:23, 23 October 2020 (UTC)


This page is a Bio of Mr Suresh Jindal

His mention can be found at [1] as a Film Producer with notable and significant films

As a columnist he has written multiple articles for Speaking Tree a distinguished Blog 

[2]

He has also been been awarded the  "Chevalier dans l'ordre des arts et lettres", a title bestowed by the French government. 

Mr. Jindal has a B.S.E.E. from UCLA and spent four years in the Aerospace/Electronics Industry in California as an engineer He is a member of the "National Honorary Mathematics Society of America" and the "Academic Council of the Film & Television Institute of India" He is also ex-vice-president of the "Indian Motion Picture Producers Association" [3]

Rishijindal (talk) Rishijindal (talk) 05:39, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Hey Liance, I see that you denied my Wiki draft for my client, KUNZITE. They are a bicoastal music group who my are managed by the company where I work, Fenway Recordings. I was wondering what I can do to help get this draft approved. Sophiewilde (talk) 18:30, 4 November 2020 (UTC)Thanks so much, Sophie

So You Declined My Draft For List Of Shapes And Said It Already Exists As List Of 2D Geometric Shapes Which Is Fair Enough But It Seems Like A Big List Of Just Shapes Not Any Types Well There Are Types Of Triangles. Also Since It’s Just A List Do I Replace The First Part With What I Put Or Do I Just Put The Tables? I Don’t Know What To Do.

Edit: Actually I think I know what to do.

WikiMakersOfOurTime (talk) 14:53, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Dear Liance,

An article was submitted about 'Saraf furniture' on the basis of its notable achievement of manufacturing all its furniture from pure Sheesham Wood. If you can see a video at the following link: [4], which states that how the company started manufacturing all its products from solid Sheesham wood. Also other recent videos stating that it is the only company manufacturing all its furniture from Government purchased Sheesahm wood. The company has also converted the un-organized furniture market in India into an organized and ratable sector. The success story and the notability factor is also highlighted at [5], not being media reports.

Please look into the matter and consider the genuine notable factors of the company about bringing a revolution in the furniture market of India.

Regards, Adv.devanshmalhotra (talk) 12:27, 11 November 2020 (UTC) Devansh Malhotra

Hello Liance! Thanks for the heads up as well for the welcome message :) Cestgeorge (talk) 17:27, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

No problem! Let me know if I can help at all. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:22, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Hey Liance, how about letting another perspective on Draft: The Secret Of Skinwalker Ranch? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Houston,illinois (talkcontribs) 19:09, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ohmbunu - for articles to be accepted on wikipedia, they need to demonstrate notability through the use of reliable sources. Please cite sources about your article using inline citations if you wish for it to be reviewed and possibly accepted. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 16:45, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liance, many thanks for moving the article forward! It is my first try to make a page and I'm curious to see how the process goes. Nymphalid niklas (talk) 09:57, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

No problem. Please let me know if I can help in any way! -Liancetalk/contribs 16:39, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! I appreciate the advice and help everyone is giving me so far and will look at the newly located draft which you kindly moved for me today. I am learning, slowly! Kittyo (talk) 17:47, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

I meant to avoid putting the page in the pending category (there is a |demo=yes flag to {{AfC submission}}), but it turns out that parameter wasn't completely supported. Should be fixed now. — The Earwig ⟨talk01:30, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much for letting me know! And this is my fault as well - I instinctively declined the draft as a test edit, and only afterwards did I realize it should not have been in the queue in the first place. Definitely should have asked first. Apologies! -Liancetalk/contribs 01:34, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Hey The Earwig - sorry for the ping but your dummy page (User:The Earwig/Sandbox/AfC submission) is currently in the AfC queue and shows up for reviewers. Just wanted to let you know in case it would be of any help! -Liancetalk/contribs 05:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, I think it's fine now. — The Earwig ⟨talk06:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for moving my draft to the appropriate location for Articles for Creation submissions. It was a quiet struggle for me to create an aritcle for the first time. I was informed that you have moved to Draft: NFLOW. However, when I click the Draft: NFLOW to edit, the title is changed to Draft: Nflow. The title should be in all capital letters either "NFLOW," or "E8IGHT NFLOW." Please give me the advice to change the Draft title. I really appreciate your help! :) LynnEri (talk) 07:44, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Hey, Liance. Wikitia somehow cloned the page I was making. Is there anything I can do about this? Damnthecaesars (talk) 14:33, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Hey could you clarify what you meant by this? Thanks! -Liancetalk/contribs 03:17, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Liance, I have corrected the inline citation and resubmitted for review. Can you please check the page and let me know if anything wrong. Thanks

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Hi Liance, Thanks for taking the time to review and for your quick feedback. Your reply: This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

My question: There have been numerous newspaper and magazine articles written on SPIN-Farming, as well as research papers and studies. They are listed on the SPIN news page here: https://spinfarming.com/local-food-media/

Do any of these qualify as reliable secondary sources? Annstarlet (talk) 20:39, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello Annstarlet - on Wikipedia all articles must demonstrate notability via significant coverage in secondary sources independent of the subject (see WP:INDEPENDENT and WP:RS for reference). In other words, articles and papers should be not directly associated with the subject of the article and should be reliable sources to establish notability. As long as these conditions are met then they will be valid sources. Please be sure to use inline citations when referencing any content as well. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 20:45, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Why you declined my friend page instead of approving it just decline it, this outrage Yeshs167 (talk) 22:51, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Feedback was left on your talk page as to why your draft was declined. Reading it would most likely answer your question. -Liancetalk/contribs 22:58, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey Liance, thanks for your swift review of my GET page. I thought I provided enough sources, but upon closer look they were mostly primary and indeed needed adjustments. Appreciate the work! After added sources I've resubmitted the page. I hope it's sufficient now. If not, could you provide me with some extra information to help me out? It's my first page, I've been searching a lot about what to do and what not to do, but there's so much information that it's easy to overlook something. Jeronemoo (talk) 12:11, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey Jeronemoo - I looked over the draft and the TNW and IQ-mag sources you added are good, since they are reliable, show significant coverage and are independent of the subject. Unfortunately I am not sure if it meets WP:GNG quite yet and will likely need more significant coverage to fit that criteria. Note that cryptocurrency-related news outlets and blogs, along with Forbes personal sites, are generally not considered reliable sources when looking to add more. I'll leave it to another editor to review your submission this time and provide feedback for fairness, but please let me know if you have any more questions. Hope this helps! -Liancetalk/contribs 12:26, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Hey Liance, I've wanted to discuss a few things with you, if you're open for them. First of all; After reading the guidelines and other articles on wiki, I must agree that GET as a seperate article has indeed not been notably in the news yet and therefore, should not have its own article until that happens. My original plan was to create a page for GET, GET Protocol and GUTS Tickets, so I could link to the earlier articles as a way to seperate information. I have revised that plan since it was clear it didn't fit the wiki guidelines. I have now created a GUTS Tickets article, where GET & GET Protocol are written about as they're part of GUTS Tickets. If you have time, perhaps you could review it; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:GUTS_Tickets. Secondly, I have added the proposed deletion to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Guaranteed_Entrance_Token, as it won't be accepted until it has enough notable sources, but it's unclear if and when this will happen. Have I done this correctly? And thirdly; After reading this message, feel free to delete this section from your talk page. Our conversation about GET has reached a (good) conclusion! Jeronemoo (talk) 08:28, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
Jeronemoo Wiki articles often have subsections on related/encompassed topics so yes you could certainly write a section about the related topic and create a redirect to the section. Please note that the criteria at WP:NCORP must be met for your draft article to be accepted - it may be helpful to pick out the WP:THREE best sources to help reviewers when evaluating your article. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 14:32, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Good day Liance. Thanks for your continued guidance on how to make this entry more useful. Your reply was: Hello Annstarlet - on Wikipedia all articles must demonstrate notability via significant coverage in secondary sources independent of the subject (see WP:INDEPENDENT and WP:RS for reference). In other words, articles and papers should be not directly associated with the subject of the article and should be reliable sources to establish notability. As long as these conditions are met then they will be valid sources. Please be sure to use inline citations when referencing any content as well. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 20:45, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

My next step: SPIN-Farming provided models on how to make money growing food that reduced the amount of land needed to under an acre. This sub-acre scale of farming enabled more people to try farming and helped a lot of food/farming/gardening movements take root beginning in 2006, including urban agriculture, yardsharing, backyard farming, local farming, and sustainable farming. So what I need to do is make that clear and also provide articles or information sources on these various movements as secondary sources under the References area. Is that correct? (I very much appreciate your time and continued guidance).

Hello again Annstarlet, in order for inclusion on wikipedia the subject must meet notability guidelines for organizations, please see WP:ORGCRIT. You will need to provide secondary, independent, and reliable references that demonstrate the subject meets these criteria and is notable. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:32, 20 August 2021 (UTC)


Hi, thanks for the review and i'm open to corrections on my last created article so as to get it published on Wikipedia. I believe i cited enough references and the subject is eligible. I'd appreciate your assistance in getting the article published live. Thanks.


Iamlait (talk) 04:05, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Iamlait - musicians must meet the criteria established on WP:MUSICBIO to be considered notable and article-worthy. Your draft does not meet these criteria at the moment, if the subject is notable please add reliable sources that demonstrate this. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:33, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liance thanks for your input, very much appreciated. in the article, i mentioned a notable work the producer has produced ( Carpe Diem ) and cited a newspaper publication that talked about it. can you please see and get back. Thanks again for your input.

Still doesn't appear to satisfy WP:MUSICBIO - which criteria? -Liancetalk/contribs 01:20, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liance, thanks for reviewing my Draft:Mohammad Ifrahim. I want to draw your attention towards the references 3 & 4 that you seem to have ignored, perhaps due to in a foreign language but I think they do make a case for significance and notability in favor of the subject. The subject was interviewed by Radio Pakistan that meets the criterion for notability for music artists i.e "Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network" and also by a private tv channel ARY (and few others) and you know private channels being highly sensitive about their rankings wouldn't risk their ratings by interviewing an insignificant person. So I request you to revisit ref.3&4 and let me know if I am wrong. Thanks! Insight 3 (talk) 06:10, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello Insight 3 - firstly, interviews are not independent of the subject (they are primary sources) and thus cannot be used to establish notability. Additionally I was not able to review reference 4 in detail because I cannot access it due to a geolocation block, but even while considering this I did not feel that the subject satisfied the criteria outlined in WP:MUSICBIO. If the subject was indeed part of a significant broadcast segment please provide written, secondary sources that demonstrate this instead of the video broadcast itself. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:38, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liance, thanks for answering. I would ask if the "interview of singer Mohammad Ifrahim" is posted on the official website of Radio Pakistan, doesn't this itself confirm that he was part of a broadcast segment? Moreover, I have added a few more sources to Draft:Mohammad Ifrahim and resubmitted it, so please check it again. Your guidance is much appreciated! Insight 3 (talk) 05:33, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Insight 3 - interviews are primary sources and not independent of the subject meaning they are not an eligible source. I will allow another editor to review the draft for the sake of fairness and obtaining a new perspective. Cheers -Liancetalk/contribs 23:02, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Your reply Hello again Annstarlet, in order for inclusion on wikipedia the subject must meet notability guidelines for organizations, please see WP:ORGCRIT. You will need to provide secondary, independent, and reliable references that demonstrate the subject meets these criteria and is notable. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:32, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

My question Thanks for continued guidance. The guideline you cited (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies)#Primary_criteria) says: The corporation, organization, group, product, or service is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject.

My read of this is: The corporation, organization, group, product, or service [SPIN Farming] is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage [written about] in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject.[magazines, newspapers, research papers.] But these were not acceptable, so I am still confused. Thanks for helping me clarify this.

No worries Annstarlet, thank you for being open to feedback. For notability the subject needs to have significant coverage (i.e. no passing mentions) in multiple independent sources (cannot be associated or attain information directly from subject). If you have any additional references that meet this criteria please add it to the draft. All articles on Wikipedia need to have verifiable information so please add a citation to every fact you provide on the article with an inline citation (see WP:CS and WP:ILC for help). Once you have done this feel free to resubmit the draft for review. It may help to pick out the WP:THREE best references and list them at Draft talk:SPIN Farming for reviewers. Please let me know if there are any more questions. -Liancetalk/contribs 01:14, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

I need help with creating a bio can you be of any help? contact me on lolavivi365@gmail.com Stan Lower (talk) 00:27, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Autobiographies on Wikipedia are highly discouraged, if you are a notable subject someone will create an article given time. If you would like help on creating an article WP:TEAHOUSE would be the best place to ask. -Liancetalk/contribs 01:17, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liance,

Thank you for your speedy reply. I think I know what you want. I do have a reference that would probably meet Wikipedia requirements plus a number of abstracts and two very poor quality photos, all on the internet, BUT they refer not to the invention described in the patent mentioned in my draft contribution, but to a later copy of the invention: Just 5 months after the patent application mentioned was published, a couple of professors filed an application of their own (later abandoned and replaced) for the same mechanism, built two prototypes for tests and published the results and held lectures at events organised by such internationally respected institutions as the SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers). A whole series of scientific papers on the subject are available against payment.

This must confirm the „notability“ of the invention. However, it would in my opinion be wrong if any article in Wikipedia gave the slightest impression that the mechanism was the invention of the professors. This would surely be „alternative facts“ and run contrary to Wikipedia's stringent rules. They claim to have carried out a patent search and found „nothing remotely similar“, and that „the idea to develop the engine first came ... in 1979“, but anyone can say that and what counts is the priority dates of the patents.

I would be grateful for your suggestions as to how to handle this?

Kind regards, Bryllig

Bryllig, this does indeed appear to be a complex situation. Unfortunately for inclusion on WP all articles must meet the notability criteria laid out in WP:GNG (significant coverage in multiple secondary, reliable sources independent from the subject) with preferably public access sources available. I am not sure if your subject can qualify as an article, but you may consider raising the same question at a help center at WP:Teahouse in case any other editors have any ideas. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 00:44, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Liance, I should perhaps mention

1. that the Cardan hypocyclic gear and Archimedes trammel mechanisms are already in WP. They are both compound eccentric mechanisms that convert reciprocating motion to rotary motion via elliptical motion and vice-versa. The mechanism I am offering does exactly the same, which is plain to see, you don't need a PhD (but it is more robust and less prone to wear). So if the other two have made it into WP, the new one should make it too. And anyone who is interested in the other two would surely also be just as interested in the new one - possibly more so.

2. I have taken another look at the references and abstracts for the plagiarised mechanism and found the name of one of hte professors among the authors in each, so as I understand it, he would not be able to use them in WP as it would be "original research" - but I could, because they are simultaneously "secondary sources" for the original MultiFAZE mechanism. If two university professors doing research and development work on a copy of the mechanism (under a different name) over a decade or so doesn't make the original notable, what does?

3. The abstracts, of course, give links to technical papers that are freely available on the internet to anyone against payment. Thus they provide verifiable, objective evidence from independent sources. I haven't ordered any, since my experience is that one could spend a lot of money on stuff that contains only titbits of interesting information. As I understand it, references have to exist but do not need to be included in the article.

[[Bryllig (talk) 21:58, 24 August 2021 (UTC)]]

Bryllig, in the two articles you mentioned both have references in published sources which qualify them for articles. I am not an engineer by trade or expertise, but your draft article in its current state only links to a patent registrar which does not meet notability criteria outlined in WP:GNG. Please cite your sources (namely the technical papers and abstracts you mentioned) so that reviewers can properly review the notability of the subject - without including references in the article we have no way of judging its notability. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 22:08, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Liance, Thanks. I have tacked the reference sources onto the end of the draft and would tidy it up later if approved.[[Bryllig (talk) 23:07, 24 August 2021 (UTC)]]
No problem Bryllig - just a note that on Wikipedia references should be provided as inline citations (as you formatted your patent). Once you feel that you are ready for it to be reviewed again there should be a button on the draft that will resubmit it for feedback. -Liancetalk/contribs 04:24, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Liance, I will be watching this space every day. A search for Stiller-Smith with Google turns up some drawings and photos, and further publications can be found on www.researchgate.net.

[[Bryllig (talk) 21:21, 25 August 2021 (UTC)]]

Bryllig your draft is currently not submitted for review - if you wish for editors to re-evaluate it please resubmit it with the button on the draft's page. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 23:01, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Liance, I've been trying to shorten the draft but if anything it seems to have got longer, so i think it's time it was reviewed.--09:55, 8 October 2021 (UTC)~Bryllig~~

Thank you for moving the article Benneth Nwankwo to its appropriate space. I look forward to working with you in the future. Olugold (talk) 16:00, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

No problem. Let me know if you have any questions. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:32, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi. Please how do I add tags when drafting an article? How do I add tags to an already submitted article for review? Thank you.--Olugold (talk) 16:50, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Olugold what tags are you attempting to add? Maintenence tags are typically not added to draft articles. If you would like to declare a COI then you can add {{COI|date=August 2021}} to the top. -Liancetalk/contribs 17:12, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Liance I saw a suggestion that it is oksy to tag artucle so that it would be easy for editors to locate such article. The draft was declined though because of copyright issues. I will edit and resubmit. thank you so much.--Olugold (talk) 21:38, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liance, thanks for reviewing my first submission. I was hoping you would have a suggestion on what would be considered "significant coverage" of Guild Insurance Limited. There are several more sources of information written about this company, but I thought the reliable sources of government sites with factual information would have been better. Do you have any suggestions on how to improve this? or is it better to abandon, and find something better with more significant sources to create an article on?DanTaylor4 (talk) 05:35, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi DanTaylor4 - please review WP:ORGCRIT as well as WP:NCORP for the notability criteria for companies and organizations on Wikipedia. Sources require significant, independent coverage in secondary sources - government sources are not independent of the subject and do not demonstrate significant, non-trivial coverage. I would include all references you feel meet this criteria in the form of citations to meet this criteria. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 23:00, 27 August 2021 (UTC)


I had researched Mehdi Khorramdel, he is a political commentator, [6] [7] [8] [9] Italian, Arabic and Iranian sources has published his opinions on regional issues, and he is active as a documentary maker. I know this doesn't make him Steve Jobs, but he is notable enough to have a voice in the Middle East. He is repeatedly been quoted as a source in BBC Persia, [10]. [11] Due to governmental censorship in Iran, journalists have no other outlet except their personal accounts to express their opinion. So twitter plays a major role in acquiring independent news and opinions. And Khorramdel definitely fill the criteria as a notable media personality as a source for independent news about Iran. I just don't know how to incorporate this information in an article and cite it.

Breezingsorrow (talk) 12:36, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Breezingsorrow (talk) 12:36, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Breezingsorrow, please review the criteria at WP:BIO see the criteria necessary for notability establishment. At the time of the review, one source was IMDb, another was a list of movies (trivial mention), and one was about one of the subject's films. As per WP:BIO significant coverage on the subject themself is required, not focused on their work. I see that there have been further edits to the draft, but regardless I hope this information helps. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 23:05, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002400/
  2. ^ https://duckduckgo.com/?q=speaking+Tree+Suresh+Jindal&atb=v213-1&ia=web&iai=r1-0&page=1&adx=prdsdc&sexp=%7B%22relsexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22prodexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22prdsdexp%22%3A%22c%22%2C%22biaexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22direxp%22%3A%22b%22%7D
  3. ^ https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002400/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_trv_sm#trivia
  4. ^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk-R74ycoCk&feature=emb_title
  5. ^ https://startupsuccessstories.in/this-bootstrapped-rural-startup-from-rajasthan-disrupts-the-furniture-industry-with-sheesham-wood-products/
  6. ^ https://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/mondo/mediooriente/2019/04/27/guerra-yemen-si-stimano-230.000-morti_f36aef22-a730-4951-8856-f366ce2abbb7.html
  7. ^ https://insidearabia.com/iranians-pin-hope-on-biden-with-dose-of-realism/
  8. ^ https://www.avvenire.it/mondo/pagine/yemen-guerra-senza-fine
  9. ^ https://en.mehrnews.com/news/143881/37th-FIFF-Film-Market-to-screen-48-Iranian-titles
  10. ^ https://www.bbc.com/persian/iran-58183262
  11. ^ https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iranian-press-review-islamophobic-comments-bbc-persian-cause-outcry

The (God) page is not correct. DVG Lover of GOD (talk) 20:53, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

It seems like you are WP:NOTHERE to contribute constructively from your edit history - but, in case you are, there's nothing stopping you from editing the page itself or Talk:God if you don't have access. -Liancetalk/contribs 01:27, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liance. Please can you go through this biography User:Olugold/sandbox before I submit to AFC. Also feel free to point out areas that need to be edited. Thank you for all your responses.Olugold (talk) 12:45, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Olugold, I have moved your draft to Draft:Benneth Nwankwo. It may be helpful to pick out the WP:THREE best references to aid the reviewer who will evaluate your article. Best of luck. -Liancetalk/contribs 22:25, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Liance thank you so much for all your efforts--Olugold (talk) 14:08, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello Liance, Please I will like to know if there is an update yet on my last submission (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Bi-Courtney_Aviation_Services_Limited). Been checking for days now, and seems it's still being reviewed.

Jomafa, there is currently a backlog for draft articles and it may be a while before yours will be reviewed by a volunteer. You should receive a talk page message when it is reviewed. -Liancetalk/contribs 22:28, 31 August 2021 (UTC)


Thanks for your help.

Couple of issues raised:

Autobiography - this is not a personal page - the user devandijk was created so that I (Jacques van Dijk) can create this page and is solely intended to allow capture of the information related to his career as a scientist. Since my father recently published at age 95years, the plan was to put up a wiki page in time for his birthday.

References/Citation:

I'll have to read up on what needs references. Some of the biographical information is obviously based on personal communication. Books/Publications I am relying on ResearchGate etc.

Devandijk (talk) 15:45, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Devandijk - I assumed the draft was an autobiography per your username, my apologies. Since you have a conflict of interest with the subject, please see WP:DISCLOSE on how to declare your relationship. I denied your draft because it did not have any inline citations. On Wikipedia information must be verified, original research is not accepted. This means that, for every fact you write out, there must a citation to back it up, please see WP:CS for more info. Lastly take a look at WP:PROF for notability criteria regarding academics - if your father does not meet these criteria then unfortunately he is not eligible for inclusion, though I feel that this should not be an issue. Hope this helps. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 17:19, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the help/advice! I'm clearly new here so I appreciate all the help I can get. Progrockwzrd (talk) 16:23, 2 September 2021 (UTC)Progrockwzrd

No problem, please let me know if you ever need assistance! -Liancetalk/contribs 18:43, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liance. After editing the draft as you suggested, I noticed some links to the references turned purple, the same color with the external links. I observed that reference links are blue. Please I need clarity on this. Thank you so much--Olugold (talk) 23:12, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Olugold the draft looks fine for me. In most modern web browsers clicked hyperlinks will turn purple which could explain the issue you are having. -Liancetalk/contribs 20:34, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much Liance. Yes, I actually remembered I clicked on those links to check their authenticity.--Olugold (talk) 07:01, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Liance.

You reviewed my proposed article on Emily Fan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Greg_Dahlen/sandbox, but declined it. You wrote, "Interviews are not independent of the subject." Can you give me more info here? None of the interviews are independent, and in what way(s)? Thanks Greg Dahlen (talk) 20:12, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Hey Greg Dahlen - articles on Wikipedia require notability to be demonstrated by sources that are independent of the subject and secondary - interviews do not demonstrate notability b/c they are directly associated with the subject of the article. This also includes the YouTube links you cited as well, as they were published by the subject and user-contributed sites almost never qualify as reliable sources. For biographies of living people, articles need to satisfy criteria outlined in WP:BASIC/WP:BIO for inclusion. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 20:40, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, Liance. Well, for example, one interview https://www.clichemag.com/interviews/youtuber-not-even-emily-opens-up-about-identity-and-balancing-social-media-with-career/ is on Cliche Magazine. You say not a legit publication? It does have a Wikipedia article Cliche Magazine. Greg Dahlen (talk) 14:17, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
Greg Dahlen, the magazine is a legitimate publication - but on WP we require specific criteria to prove that a subject is notable. In this sense interviews are not valid since they do not demonstrate independent coverage from a secondary source, regardless of how legitimate or reliable a publication is. -Liancetalk/contribs 12:58, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, Liance. Yes, now that I'm looking, I do see that interviews are not often used as the references for Wikipedia articles. Do you know why this is? Does the Wikipedia editor community doubt that a publication would check the information given in an interview? But a secondary article can go unchecked too.
I would think that the information in many secondary articles used as references in Wikipedia articles about people is taken wholly from an interview with the person, but the interview is not mentioned.
I would think that an interview would establish notability in the sense that it shows the person was important enough to be interviewed? Greg Dahlen (talk) 15:40, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Greg Dahlen I think there's a bit of confusion here - interviews are, most of the time, perfectly fine to reference in an article. They are often the most reliable sources of information when a secondary source is not available and can be used to verify facts when published by a reliable source. However in the case of accepting draft articles what needs to be demonstrated is notability - that the subject is well-known enough and article-worthy. Interviews generally do not satisfy notability criteria, which is detailed at pages like WP:BIO. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:02, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks Liance. I'm still trying to understand the relationship between interviews and notability. In the meantime, had you noticed that one of my references in this proposed article about Emily Fan is from Wikitubia https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Not_Even_Emily? Wikitubia is like Wikipedia for YouTube creators. Would her having an article on Wikitubia establish sufficient notability for Wikipedia, alone I suppose or in conjunction with the other references? Greg Dahlen (talk) 07:58, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Greg Dahlen Unfortunately self-published sources are not considered notable nor independent on WP since they are editable and creatable by anyone. Notability requires independent coverage from detached, reliable sources - if you can find more of those related to your subject that would be most helpful. -Liancetalk/contribs 14:28, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Liance.

Could you give me some examples to the issues you had with the article? I would greatly appreciate it. Below is what you stated.

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dale_Trotman

Hi BarcaRei - articles on WP must be written entirely from a neutral point of view. This means avoiding "peacock" words like "genuinely efficient, user-friendly" (see WP:PEACOCK) and segments like "These setbacks didn't stop Trotman's ambition; it grew his desire to be an entrepreneur" as they are not written from a neutral point of view. Lastly, all stated facts should be cited by inline citations - much of the draft is unsourced, please add these where they are currently absent for verifiability. -Liancetalk/contribs 13:06, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Liance! WP:THREE currently would be: [1]

[2] and [3]

although I am currently about to ask another editor why half of the page was removed (with other citations). Thank you!CopyKait (talk) 17:31, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

CopyKait, please list these references at the top of the draft page you are submitting so reviewers can see them. -Liancetalk/contribs 17:35, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

References

Sorry. Thanks! Done! CopyKait (talk) 17:43, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liance, thank you for reviewing my draft page of the artist V-Sag. I rearranged and changed the references but they all refer correctly how this artist is notable and have contributed in the music scene and they are all mainstream and very well known sources and websites in Greece. I was wondering if there is a problem that they are in Greek, since that he is a Greek artist, most of his references are within greek sources and news websites.

Thank you for your time.

Renaki1983 References can be in foreign languages. Your draft was declined because it is not clear how the artist meets the notability criteria outlined in WP:MUSIC - please make this apparent in your article before resubmitting for review. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:04, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


Thank you lance, I have added a link to the Patent Office and a link to the Cytonix home page. I'm trying make a "starter" page that I can then elaborate with more content and references. I will visit the Teahouse once I get this started. Obviously, I'm a beginner at creating Wiki pages. Thanks again for your consideration, JimJamesfbrown (talk) 18:36, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Jamesfbrown (talk) 18:36, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Jamesfbrown please see WP:NCORP - all articles about companies must demonstrate notability via significant coverage in multiple secondary, independent, reliable sources. Your draft currently does not meet this criteria, more references are needed to demonstrate notability at this time. Do not hesitate to let me know if any more help is needed. -Liancetalk/contribs 20:37, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


Hi Lance, would any or some of the references below contribute to Cytonix notability? Sorry, it's a long list. I actually stopped making as the list was getting long. Thanks, Jim~~~~ Hope I did that correctly.


Jamesfbrown (talk) 22:31, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Jamesfbrown Your message was hidden and some links were blacklisted by the site so I have de-commented, removed some links and made it visible in collapse form. Please cite these on your draft article so the next reviewer can evaluate them. Any sources you cite must be reliable, independent of the subject, secondary, and show significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) of the subject. Do not cite wikis, product pages, press releases, etc. as these do not fit the criteria. -Liancetalk/contribs 01:41, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liance, I took on your feedback for my page submission. Please can you review it again? Every source I have added is from a credible third party publisher or resource - content that Elemed does not own. Thanks Jmpelemed (talk) 12:51, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Jmpelemed please add a WP:LEAD section to your draft (start with the "Elemed is a..." sentence) so readers know what it refers to immediately. External links should not be present in the body of the article and should be removed. Lastly, the article still may not meet WP:NCORP - you need reliable, secondary, independent sources with significant coverage, meaning nothing connected to the company itself. For the sake of fairness I will allow another editor to have the final say in the next review but I hope this helped. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:29, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello Liance! Thank you for your suggestions. I rearranged the content and have added better references. If you could please review it again, and if it needs anything it would be really helpful if you could suggest it! Thank you!

Renaki1983 Please make sure your subject meets the WP:NMUSIC criteria (add sources for national charting and mention which organization honored them as DJ of the month) and make this apparent via your references if you can find more. Since I reviewed your draft last time I will allow another editor to review it this time. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 16:33, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Liance, i am still new to wikipidea and learning the craft day by day. My article was rejected due to lack of adequate support by reliable sources, citiation. i also tried to upload images but they were all rejected as well. Could you offer more guidance on this. --TeehGiant (talk) 11:05, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

TeehGiant please cite your sources (see WP:CS WP:ILC) properly as inline citations. Wikipedia should not be cited as a source. Also review the WP:BASIC criteria to make sure your references are suitable. Uploaded files must be your own work or freely useable or fit under fair use rationale. Once you have done this you can resubmit Draft:Phineas Kimathi for review. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:36, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello User:Liance, I'm reaching out because you're listed as a contributor to the Cryptocurrency WikiProject. I am trying to get a draft published in the Cryptocurrency domain, but it's a bit difficult as the reviewers seem to have an opposition to the topic of crypto as a whole. Meanwhile there are other topics published with significantly less notability. As you are knowledgeable on the subject, could you please look at the draft and let me know if you can assist? Thank you! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Elongate_(cryptocurrency)

Hey Salamanderxander - I am not as involved with the crypto WikiProject as much now, but thanks for reaching out.
The editors who reviewed your draft are correct about it appearing non-notable - cryptocurrency notability criteria is usually evaluated under the WP:NCORP criteria, and states that significant coverage must be demonstrated in secondary, independent, reliable sources. Most of the sources you included do not meet this criteria; crypto-centric news sites and blogs are generally considered non-reliable. Many of the articles you cite mention the subject in passing rather than as their primary subject, and are not WP:INDEPENDENT of the subject either and associated in some way.
If you feel that Elongate is notable your best bet would be to find the WP:THREE best sources and reach out to the editor who rejected your draft with them and argue for its notability, if it is indeed non-notable then it's not suitable for a Wikipedia article. Keep in mind live articles that do not meet their respective notability criteria may exist but will be inevitably removed given enough time. Hope this helps. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 16:45, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

your most recent reply: No worries Annstarlet, thank you for being open to feedback. For notability the subject needs to have significant coverage (i.e. no passing mentions) in multiple independent sources (cannot be associated or attain information directly from subject). If you have any additional references that meet this criteria please add it to the draft. All articles on Wikipedia need to have verifiable information so please add a citation to every fact you provide on the article with an inline citation (see WP:CS and WP:ILC for help). Once you have done this feel free to resubmit the draft for review. It may help to pick out the WP:THREE best references and list them at Draft talk:SPIN Farming for reviewers. Please let me know if there are any more questions. -Liancetalk/contribs 01:14, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

my reply: Sorry to have been out of touch. I got pulled away by other projects. I know SPIN-Farming and its creator Wally Satzewich have been cited in 2 books, so I will include them as references. I see that I need to provide context also. I will also edit down what it is and how it works, and instead explain it in relation to its noteworthy place in the development of local food systems and figure out how to use those inline citations. This will take a while and my time is still short right now. I intend to get back to this later this year, yet. Thanks again for your help and will check in again when I have something new to review.

Assuming this is Annstarlet via IP - just want to let you know that drafts will be deleted with 6 months of inactivity, but administrators can recover them if a deletion occurs. Best of luck. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:57, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Liance. How are you? I saw you were the one who reviewed the entry about Glow Christmas. I already made some changes regarding the references and other style elements. Could you please review it again and tell me if it's fit to be published? Thanks.

Julio1017 the draft seems to have been improved significantly - I will let another editor review it for publication for the sake of fairness. However I noticed that the draft's title is "Glow Christmas" but all sources online refer to it as "Glow Gardens" but the latter is not mentioned in the article. You may wish to change the draft's name if the company's name has changed. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:59, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Liance Done, thank you very much.

I'm confused by your wording, do you mean we need like CNN or NBC articles instead of local outlets? HumanHistory1 (talk) 17:24, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi HumanHistory1 - your draft was declined because it didn't meet the notability criteria for events and had only 2 local news outlets cited at the time of writing. Wikipedia is not a news site and few events are notable enough for inclusion. Please review notability criteria for events before resubmitting. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 17:21, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Lance, you reviewed an article and declined to publish since there was little or no context given - I agree. My article is intended to as an addition to an existing Wikipedia page titled p-Norms while my article begins discussing the derivative of the p-norm. I need add a discussion of the motivational background for interest in this derivative, although many mathematicians would be familiar with that information. I need help in merging my article with the existing article on p-norms rather than re-writing that information. Should I simply edit the existing article?RalphZero (talk) 19:18, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

RalphZero (talk) 19:18, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

RalphZero yes, please edit the article itself. Drafts should be submitted only for new entries. Be bold and add your changes to the article directly! -Liancetalk/contribs 17:22, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello Liance, I tagged you on my talk page regarding my latest submission. I am confident that there are enough reliable, independent sources that show the notability of the subject. Could you take a second look at references 3,5,8 and 9? Those are the main ones I've been working with. Thanks in advance. Astropolar13talk 02:23, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

I will respond on your talk page shortly. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 17:23, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liance :) Is this better? I made the article of prof. van Tulder shorter User:Vacca13/sandbox Thanks, Vacca13 (talk) 16:10, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Vacca13 The "selected publications" section is still too long and should be shortened. Additionally please review Wikipedia:Notability (academics) and ensure it is apparent how your subject meets this criteria. -Liancetalk/contribs 17:24, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Liance,

I moved this page from Draft space into main space and, in the process, deleted all of the redirects to this page! Damn Twinkle! They've all been restored and so if you want to clean up the page after AFC acceptance, it's ready for you. Liz Read! Talk! 23:51, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Much appreciated Liz :) -Liancetalk/contribs 01:42, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
Just for reference, which redirects were deleted? -Liancetalk/contribs 01:45, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liance,

Thank you so much for your feedback and helpful comments. I have removed all the fluff i.e publications, interviews, works, exhibitions, etc. as requested. I think the topic reads much better now, thanks :-)

Let me know what you think when you get the chance and if there is anything else you can recommend.

Best, Annie --13:29, 16 September 2021 (UTC)Annie Paterson (talk)

Annie Paterson I would recommend picking out the WP:THREE best secondary sources that demonstrate significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject (see WP:BASIC) on Draft talk:Janko de Beer. This will help reviewers properly evaluate if the subject is notable enough for inclusion. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 16:16, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, i hope you are good Excuse me, but there is an article that needs to be published as soon as it is related to one of the institutes and it must be reviewed before the start of the new school year, which is next week! I think you reviewed it previously and rejected it because it lacks references only.. Now references have been added and re-requested for revision, but it has been pending for a while for some reason.. I hope you can help me. This is the article: Draft:Pyramids Higher Institute for Engineering and Technology Shahba3049 (talk) 14:42, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Shahba3049 many of the references you added are in Arabic - unfortunately I cannot understand the language and am not able to properly evaluate it. You may wish to ask at the WP:AFC Helpdesk or visit WP:WikiProject Articles for creation/List of reviewers by subject to find someone who can read Arabic. Also, please note that there are no deadlines on Wikipedia - an article not ready for publication will not be live until it satisfies Wikipedia policies. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:13, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Dear Liance Thank you for reaching out. I would like to ask you 2 questions: 1. Does my draft article await an editor review? (or should I do some additional steps for it?) 2. Regarding the article with the same name in different language - Are they independently revised or should I wait for my english article to be reviewed before I work on it in Ukrainian? Thank you!

Hey Evolutionary Virologist - your article is currently in the review queue and a volunteer will review it for publication, but you are free to edit it in the meantime. I moved it to the Draft namespace since that is where draft articles should be kept.
The article review process is independent across wikis so feel free to work on a version on the Ukranian Wikipedia at any time. Hope this helps! -Liancetalk/contribs 18:35, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

I recently rejected Praxis Electronic Medical Record for being resubmitted without improvement, but as it turned out it was resubmitted because you told the submitter at User talk:Astropolar13 to resubmit as you said "I now realize that I was not able to properly evaluate the sources", so I had to undo that rejection. In the future, it would probably be best if you remove a decline if you later feel as if it was in error or it was improper in some way (I tend to reject article that are repeatedly resubmitted w/o improvement and in this case that is what happened). I went ahead and removed it for you in this particular case but please be aware of this in the future. Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 19:28, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Chess, my apologies for not removing the decline - I will be sure to do so in the future if something like this happens again and make it clear to other reviewers that I instructed the submitter to re-submit. Thank you so much for the heads up. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 19:31, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liance,Thanks for taking the time to review my first submission. The reason mentioned is This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

As am new to this, can you please help me to understand why it is declined and what i can do to make it live.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lee_wizard/sandbox

Lee wizard, your draft was denied because you did not demonstrate notability - on Wikipedia notability must be established via significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in reliable (WP:RS), independent (WP:INDEPENDENT) sources. Please review WP:NCORP for the relevant criteria. Your second reference is a PR news site which is not independent of the subject, and the third one is a link to the company's website which is also not independent. -Liancetalk/contribs 14:27, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Additionally please remove all external links from the body of your draft before resubmitting. -Liancetalk/contribs 14:28, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Resubmitted the Declined Article

Hi Liance, i have edited my declined article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lee_wizard/sandbox, the updated article is now in sandbox. I did the edits based on your comments. So please let me know what i need to do next, to get the approval of my page.

You didn't submit the draft, but given your significant improvement of it in draftspace I thought you might want to know I accepted it. Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 14:23, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up Chess! -Liancetalk/contribs 14:24, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liance! Thank you for taking a look at our page, it's great to have a pro like you helping out.

I'm, Frank Force, a game developer representing the js13kgames community.

JS13k has just run it's 10th annual contest with 223 entries, and a massive community that participates in other ways. We are a very inclusive and friendly group from beginners to expert developers. All our games are open source on github as per contest rules for people to learn from. I believe this contest is a valuable resource to the game dev and programming communities which is why I participate.

We put a lot of work into this article and finding every legit independent sources possible. It has been somewhat difficult because mainstream media does not tend to cover game jams! However I believe we put together a solid article with many references and even several books that have been in print for years.

In response to your original comment I removed all references that cite the js13kgames website but the very first one which links to the rules. We also found some more sources and I've integrated those and done several other things to improve the article.

Judging is currently underway and several hundred people would be over the moon if we could get this Wikipedia article published before results are announced.

Would love it if you could take another look and help us get this across the finish line. I'm happy to jump on anything you see and fix it right away. Thanks!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Js13kGames

Hey Slackluster, thanks for reaching out. First and foremost you want to declare a conflict of interest - on Wikipedia it is required for you to do this to maintain neutrality for all editors and content. You can take a look at WP:DCOI for more details on this. Next I would recommend picking the WP:THREE best references that show significant coverage in secondary, reliable, independent sources; you can list these at Draft talk:Js13kGames and leave a note at the top of the draft for the next reviewer. These would greatly help with streamlining the review process. Please let me know if you have any more questions! -Liancetalk/contribs 00:02, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks Liance! I've updated the JS13K talk page with my conflict of interest and the three best references. Let me know if there is anything else I can do.

Dear Liance,

I am new at contributing on Wikipedia. Last week, you moved my first article from my sandbox to draft and it's has been pending review. Unfortunately, while I was trying to learn my way around, I mistakenly moved the article from draft to article. I noticed it does not have the 'pending review notice' on it anymore. Any idea how I can get it back to draft and have it reviewed and approved on time?

Edit: I've movd the article back to draft now but it still isn't showing the pending review notice. Here is the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jide_S._Awobona

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Qafui1987 I have submitted the draft for review on your behalf. Let me know if that works. -Liancetalk/contribs 00:02, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Liance. I got one review. I will check it out now. You've been very helpful Qafui1987 (talk) 06:17, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liance,

I have been edited the declined article based on your comments and published. Please have a look https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lee_wizard/sandbox

Sincerely Respected Liance, If You have any recommendations for improvement, I will be glad if You improve. We can improve everything in our life. God Bless You + Antimonopolist (talk) 10:01, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Lee wizard Antimonopolist If you are one person using multiple wiki accounts please note that this is not allowed and a violation of Wikipedia policy and you may face a ban - please declare your use of multiple accounts and only stick to one. Companies need to display notability and meet the criteria outlined at WP:NCORP through reliable independent sources w/ significant coverage which are not currently present in the draft. -Liancetalk/contribs 14:36, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Resubmitted the Declined Article

Dear Liance,

I didn't get your above reply, i have only one wiki account _ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lee_wizard. You declined my first article on september 21st 2021, and i edited the same article based on your comments on last week. Here is my updated one : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lee_wizard/sandbox Please have a look and let me know the steps forward

Sincerely Respected Liance, I have only one account. I do not know who Lee wizard. I had another account a long time ago, but I forgot my password and closed it and I am not using it now. I am a sincere believer. Christ was tortured by monopolists pilatе-like and as the modern authors of covid-19, but He will still shine on mankind.Antimonopolist (talk) 21:00, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liance, I re-worked the Orchid Conservation Alliance page removing what was self-referential and adding references from other credible sources and resubmitted it. I wondered if anyone had looked at it? Sorry if this is still working its way through the editorial backlog. KinNCa (talk) 21:24, 10 October 2021 (UTC)KinNCaKinNCa (talk) 21:24, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Dear Liance,

It would be great if you can go through my resubmitted article and kindly letting me know the next step. As this my first article in Wikipedia am not much familiar with the article publishing steps. I did the edits on the declined article based on your commends and published in the sandbox. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lee_wizard/sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lee wizard (talkcontribs) 05:27, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi Sir, Please tell me why you rejected the wiki page. I could not find any particular reason. Is there any meaning in improving the page once again? Rahulsoman (talk) 21:35, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

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Hello Liance - Thank you for reviewing the submission of Charm/clasp openers. As per your instructions, we added references to reliable and well known independent sources. Diams18 (talk) 04:58, 21 October 2021 (UTC).

Thanks for reviewing the Roland Bacon page. This page is an English translation of the French page which has been published since a few years. I am not very familiar with the wikipedia editing and thus I appreciate your help. Note that the content is fully identical to the French page. The reason to have an English translation of this page is that I will probably soon move to US and then I think it is appropriate to have an English version of this page. Thanks again for your help. RolandBacon (talk) 15:22, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for the quick review on my first attempt at a page (PAR Government Systems Corp.). I will dig deeper and try to find independent sources as you noted. If I run into any problems I will reach out for guidance. Thanks Sienwhy227 (talk) 15:26, 15 November 2021 (UTC)Seinwhy227

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Hey, page for Dexerto was declined for lack of "significant coverage" in sources. It has 14 sources total, The subject of the article is one of the top 40 gaming websites in the US, but given the nature of news websites, it is near impossible to provide the sources suggested in Wikipedia's 'general notability guidelines' - most news websites are not the subject of coverage themselves.

When reviewing the Wikipedia pages of similar websites, there are no such references given (in fact almost all that I have checked have far fewer independent sources, and some none at all). I am informed that rules around this have changed which is why these websites have pages with such scant references.

Could you please advise on the best approach here, or if it is simply not possible, given the oddly specific notability guidelines which seem to not apply to news websites at all, to have a Wikipedia page for such a large and well-read website? This would strike as odd given the size of the site, and the state of other wiki pages about smaller websites, with fewer references.

Thanks

Calcium17 (talk) 14:26, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Another editor has since left feedback on your draft as to why it does not meet notability guidelines yet. If you still need assistance please let me know. -Liancetalk/contribs 04:49, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
Calcium17, I apologize - it seems that I confused your message with another editor's (I noticed this a few minutes ago while I was cleaning up old talk page messages). If you are still working on this draft I would first recommend taking a look at WP:ORGCRIT and WP:CORPDEPTH, as they outline what is required of articles regarding organizations on WP, which is somewhat higher than that required of other subjects. References need to be secondary, independent, in reliable sources, and demonstrate significant coverage to establish notability; acquisitions, etc are considered trivial/routine coverage and thus do not qualify. If you wish to resubmit the draft for review I recommend following the advice at WP:THREE and leaving a note on the draft to let reviewers know.
Lastly, there are indeed pages that do not conform to our current guidelines. You are more than welcome to nominate these pages for deletion but do note that Wikipedia is a work in progress and that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. If you have any more questions do not hesitate to reach out. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 02:35, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
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Hello. I have edited Draft:Brooks Rehabilitation draft for review and would like some feedback before submitting for approval. You were involved in reviewing a previous draft. I would like to improve the article and am looking for help to ensure I am meeting the Wikipedia Guidelines. I believe the content is written from a neutral point of view and the sources meet the criteria. I would appreciate any direction you can provide. To be fully transparent, I have a declared COI with Brooks Rehabilitation.. Thank you Lauradavis44 (talk) 18:39, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Lauradavis44 - in its current state the draft does not quite appear to demonstrate why the subject is notable. On Wikipedia, subjects must be covered significantly in multiple independent, reliable sources (WP:GNG) - much of the references in the draft at the moment are passing mentions. Could you try to locate WP:THREE best sources which demonstrate notability to help reviewers? Thank you. -Liancetalk/contribs 04:48, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liance,

I wanted to discuss the reasoning for the above-referenced Articles for Creation submission being declined and I hope the decision can be re-evaluated.

First, I'm hoping you can clarify your comment: Evaluating as organization as almost all coverage appears to be about the foundation. Lacks significant (non-trivial) coverage in multiple reliable sources. YouTube, crypto news outlets are not considered to be reliable sources. -Liancetalk/contribs 10:25, 17 February 2022 (UTC). What I don't understand about this, is "evaluating as organization as almost all coverage appears to be about the foundation." None of the coverage is about the foundation. The foundation was recently formed and there is only one line about the foundation that was included in the article itself, for thoroughness. All of the news coverage is about Pawthereum, the cryptocurrency, so I do not know how you reached the conclusion that you did.

Second, the reason for the submission being declined: This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

I did read the page on notability, etc. that lays out the guidelines for what sources count, and by that guideline, I believe the article should qualify. I'd like to go through the sources one by one and discuss the ones that I believe should qualify (I don't necessarily agree with you that crypto news outlets aren't reliable sources but I understand the reasoning, so we can agree to not count those. I also understand the reasoning regarding Youtube but it is strange that an AMA from the largest cryptocurrency subreddit wouldn't count considering, 1. it is very significant, especially considering the significance of the guest speaker and size of that subreddit and 2. the AMA is 100% independent from Pawthereum).

Anyway, I think arguably these should count: Source #5, NewsTimes

  1. 10 InvestorPlace
  2. 12 Benzinga
  3. 15 Edinburgh News
  4. 17 People.com
  5. 18 The Newtown Bee

From what I understand the number of sources needed is 3. Are we saying that, disregarding all of the other sources I didn't mention, that there aren't at least 3 sources out of these 6 that qualify?

I appreciate you taking a look and reviewing this article, but I don't see the reasoning being applied to the decision lining up with Wikipedia's guidelines, so I do not agree with the decision making here and would appreciate a response to the points I've raised. If the decision can be re-evaluated, that would be ideal. If the reasoning can be explained and the reasoning is supported by Wikipedia's guidelines, I can accept the decision, but otherwise I will have to respectfully contest this decision.

Thank you,

CatDadoftheYear (talk) 19:26, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Hey CatDadoftheYear, thanks for reaching out. I evaluated your draft based on criteria for notability of organizations (see WP:ORGCRIT) because the coverage you cited focused primarily on the organization behind the project and its charitable donations. If, say, coverage and article content primarily concerned price movements or distributed technology behind the subject instead, then I would have approached it with the general notability guidelines. Regardless, I didn't feel that the subject was notable - on Wikipedia, significant coverage in multiple reliable sources is required. Of the sources you picked I would consider Edinburgh, People.com and Newtown to be reliable, however significant coverage is lacking in the People.com source (it is only mentioned briefly at the end). Lastly WP:LOCALCOVERAGE for one-time events such as donations generally do not establish notability strongly and is not means for a draft's publication. As always if you make changes to your draft and feel that you have fixed these issues you can re-submit for another editor to review with the "Re-submit" button on your draft page. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 23:19, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, this does help clarify things. Appreciate your feedback.CatDadoftheYear (talk) 00:21, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello Liance,

Many thanks for accepting/editing my new article "membrane scaling" in Wikipedia. I see a message that this article has an issue:

  • Orphan article

I added links to my article and also to other articles where "membrane scaling" was just mentioned. So the reader in other articles can check in detail what membrane scaling is. But, I still see that my article is shown as orphan. How to resolve this?

Thank you!

Hey Mangal359 - I see that the links are working properly so you can disregard the message. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! -Liancetalk/contribs 23:28, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


I don't understand why my submission hasn't been accepted.

Hi there,

I have submitted a lengthy bio for me as a musician/artist and included all of the information required whilst looking up other professional musicians with a similar template. Can you please explain in detail what it is I need to change as I am incredibly keen to get my wikipedia page up and running.

LeonidasNSFW (talk) 20:57, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Hey LeonidasNSFW - first off, just to let you know autobiographies on Wikipedia are generally discouraged since they introduce issues regarding neutrality. Your draft was declined because it did not meet one or more of the musician notability criteria. Please review those before resubmitting. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 23:31, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Liance,

It doesn't look like the draft you want to move to main space is ready to appear in the article space of the project. It seems like it is still in the process of being reviewed. Until it is "main space ready", it is unlikely that an administrator will complete this move that you requested. Eventually, there might be an admin who will decide, "What the heck, I'll do the move" but I'm not sure how long that will take. Most moves from Draft space to main space look like regular articles without all of the AFC tags. Just giving you a head's up, from a patrolling admin's perspective. Liz Read! Talk! 01:27, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Liz, apologies for that - I was meaning to accept the draft to mainspace but the AfC script did not allow me to do so before the redirect was deleted, so I tagged the page with {{db-afc-move}}. Should I just tag it with a G6 next time instead or is there a seperate procedure for situations like this? Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 01:57, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Greetings, I'm Fico. I thank you for what you did for the "Shin Japan Heroes Universe" draft. However, I must admit I need from people who really know more about those franchises than I do. In my country, I barely know a little about Godzilla, and then, nothing more. Therefore, I would appreciate the need of more help from other users. Thank you so much. Sincerely, Fico. (Perhaps, other live action and animated intellectual properties from other third parties can join this project, but of course, it is too soon to speculate.) Fico Puricelli (talk) 16:46, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Hey Fico Puricelli - thank you so much for your contributions :) Unfortunately I have little to no expertise regarding the media franchise you're writing about, I moved your draft to the correct namespace during AfC review. Perhaps you could try asking for help at a WikiProject since they tend to have very experienced and helpful editors who specialize in those areas? I looked around a bit it seems like WP:WikiProject Anime and manga/Evangelion and WP:WikiProject Tokusatsu would be good places to start! Best of luck. -Liancetalk/contribs 00:18, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Thank you so much, and my apologies to you for the problem. Fico Puricelli (talk) 04:44, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
No need to apologize! If you have any additional questions don't hesitate to reach out again. -Liancetalk/contribs 04:49, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

how can there even be any other sources/citation, that all sites there are. There are only two original sources online. Those are the only source of published content. There isnt any other way to do anything. Also, what other sources are there for a webcomic than the webcomic itself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChiserYT (talkcontribs) 19:09, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

ChiserYT, I understand that a draft decline is frustrating. On Wikipedia content must meet the notability guidelines to qualify for an article - otherwise they will be deleted quickly by editors. Content must be supported by reliable, independent, secondary sources, and original sources do not qualify for this unfortunately, and your subject might not be notable enough for inclusion if you are unable to procure more sources. Hope this helps and don't hesitate to reach out again if you have more questions. -Liancetalk/contribs 22:55, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liance, could you please give me more explanation as to why my draft was declined?

Hey TrueVindicator - as noted on your draft article, it was declined because it fell short of the criteria listed at WP:MUSICBIO that describes the requirements a music-related biography must meet for inclusion on the encyclopedia. I would review that page and identify on which basis your subject could be notable, then update the references on your draft accordingly if you wish to resubmit. Additionally, since you are writing a biography of a living person please note that any statement you write must be backed up by a neutral, verifiable, and reliable inline citation. If you have any more questions let me know. Hope this helps! -Liancetalk/contribs 03:16, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Hey Liance! Thank you for taking the time to review one of my first significant contributions. I have resubmitted the page for review, maybe you could take another look and let me know if there is anything more I need to do for it to reach the required level of satisfaction to be published on the Wiki please. I've contributed to other pages but it would be cool to have contributed a whole page. Congratulations on 21,000 edits too, that's some milestone! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knowall23 (talkcontribs) 16:00, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Hey Knowall23, thanks for reaching out. On Wikipedia companies must meet the organization notability criteria which means they must demonstrate significant coverage in reliable sources that are unaffiliated with the subject. I noticed that the coverage you provided was mostly WP:LOCALCOVERAGE - do note that coverage beyond local sources helps to establish notability, and if you can find any I would add them to your draft. Hope this helps! -Liancetalk/contribs 20:00, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Hey Liance, appreciate you getting back to me. For this company I am unable to find any other sources than from official local independent news outlets, nothing by the mainstream media. As this is a purely local business it is unlikely it will hit the mainstream media. What are the chances of this being published without mainstream media articles? There are plenty of local articles as referenced. Thanks. --Knowall23 (talk) 22:43, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Unfortunately Wikipedia policies on corporations are quite stringent - WP:ORGCRIT outlines the criteria needed to establish notability for a company, which are considerably more specific than say the general notability guideline. You are welcome to resubmit the draft for review by another editor but without satisfying the necessary criteria I'm unsure if the subject is suitable for inclusion. -Liancetalk/contribs 18:01, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Reliable sources like where? I put all reliable-looking English web pages that a google search returned for this university in the page. Can you provide an example that would have this entry accepted?

Zade.ali (talk) 18:07, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hey Zade.ali - as I mentioned on your draft, your article needs significant coverage in unaffiliated, reliable sources - WP:GNG has a good overview which goes in-depth regarding what defines a source as reliable. Ranking websites and links to entries in database websites, which you cited, don't qualify as significant nor reliable coverage. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 21:07, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
Billapartygang123 warned for making threats. David notMD (talk) 13:39, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. -Liancetalk/contribs 00:01, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
Billapartygang123 Draft reviewers are volunteers who contribute when they can, and sending repeated threats for a few days of inactivity is seen as disruptive behavior and won't help your chances for getting a re-review (in fact, it could lead to a block in many cases). Please be resourceful and use the AfC helpdesk or the Teahouse in the future instead.
Your draft article was rejected because it did not sufficiently meet the notability criteria for video games after multiple resubmissions, and another reviewer has since rejected it again. Video games, like all topics, must have significant coverage in multiple sources that are secondary and independent of (unaffiliated with) the subject. -Liancetalk/contribs 00:14, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liance, Can you please tell me the things I need to edit for the Gorilla Tag draft? It would be much appreciated if you did! :D

- OGxSLAY3R

Hi OGxSLAY3R - as other reviewers have noted the draft requires additional coverage in reliable sources to meet the criteria for video game notability at WP:NGAME. An editor has since rejected the draft which means it is deemed non-notable for inclusion and should not be resubmitted unless you can present sources that demonstrate its notability per WP:NGAME. -Liancetalk/contribs 00:30, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi, this is a sincere apology from a Wikipedian for threatening you continuously. Sorry. Billapartygang123 (talk) 11:45, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello Liance Thanks for reviewing Draft:MC Stan, As I can understand that the draft was not much elaborated but as you declined it on behalf of not having WP:RS, I feel it does have enough RS although if you can guide me a bit with what is wrong with its sources as it does have sources like [GQ] and [Rolling Stone], Have you declined them cuz they are Interviews? Thanks Suryabeej   talk 13:20, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi suryabeej - your draft article was declined on account of not meeting the criteria at WP:MUSICBIO. Every source you cited at the time of review was an interview, and they are often considered to be primary or non-independent sources. Articles about musicians require multiple, reliable, secondary sources that demonstrate significant coverage about the artist themselves, not solely their works - please try to locate sources to satisfy WP:MUSICBIO if you wish to resubmit. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 17:55, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
Got that, Thank You Suryabeej   talk 06:36, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Why this is being flag as copyright? How can I add a logo that a organization is using? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Puffy-Logo.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liptapp (talkcontribs) 17:26, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Liptapp Your file was upload to Wikimedia Commons which only allows files with free-use copyright terms. Copyrighted works like logos of organizations cannot be uploaded to Commons, as the company that owns the work holds its copyright. If there is a published article on Wikipedia about the company (not a draft) you may upload its logo using Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard and selecting Upload a non-free file, but note you cannot do it at this time for the file you linked does not have a published WP page. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 17:58, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
@Liance Thanks this is very helpful because this is my first time to upload and create article, so for now It should be deleted right? How can I delete it I don't want to get block from wikipedia. Liptapp (talk) 04:34, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Liptapp One copyright violation upload will not get you blocked from Wikipedia or its sister projects so I would not worry. -Liancetalk/contribs 23:01, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

This is wrong because, as an elected member of a state legislative assembly, Tripathi meets WP:NPOL.

The draft was a terrible mess, mind you (I've started cleaning it up), and I'd definitely want to check that the sources all say what they're claimed to, but there was absolutely a reasonable claim for notability. DS (talk) 18:59, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up DragonflySixtyseven - apologies for the error and will be sure not to make the same mistake again. -Liancetalk/contribs 19:09, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello Liance,

Thank you for your feedback on the draft submitted by myself previously.

What would be required for the draft to be accepted as a notable figure? I just want to clarify that it must include further citings in notable media proprietors and remove the sources which you deemed to not be suitable for Wikipedia. Hypothetically, if a multitude of new sources are included, should I submit again and with a higher chance of approval?

Thank you Liance.

Roostermau5 (talk) 06:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Roostermau5 - Wikipedia articles on people must meet notability criteria by citing reliable sources which are secondary, independent (not affiliated with the subject) and show significant coverage (see WP:NBASIC). Adding references that specifically fulfill the requirements helps to establish notability, and if you feel that you can demonstrate the subject's notability this way then you can resubmit your draft. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 23:08, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

There’s another tweet from another former employee who worked at Blue Sky that confirmed that the series was coming out that I forgot to add to the Development section, but other than that there isn’t any reliable/notable news articles covering the tweets from the employees. Even if another tweet from another former employee isn’t enough, should I just remove the entire section for Pre-release controversy per your suggestion? SlySabre (talk) 14:39, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Hey SlySabre - facts, especially those that may be controversial or contested, must always be backed up by a reliable source for verifiability. If, aside from one or two tweets from former employees, there is no coverage in a reputable source about the rumor, then I would recommend deleting the section entirely. If more reliable coverage of the controversy in 2022 and beyond emerges then the section could be reinstated. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 18:39, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Alrighty, thanks for getting back with me and letting me know. SlySabre (talk) 18:47, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liance!

I hope all is well! It seems that the Vaad HaBadchanim is not a notable enough organization to receive an article about it. What makes an organization notable or not? For context, the VHB is a known and respected source in the Jewish world for its humor, and runs an annual tournament with the best of Jewish humor that gets tens of thousands of votes.

Thank you so much for your time, and I appreciate all of the work that you put in to make Wikipedia a great website.

Best, Schwartzavij (talk) 17:29, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Schwartzavij, thanks for reaching out. On Wikipedia articles about organizations must meet the notability requirements for organizations and must fulfill the relevant criteria by citing reliable, independent, secondary sources that have significant coverage about the organization itself. This means that cited sources should cover the subject organization with deep, non-trivial detail, and be secondary sources that are unaffiliated with the organization. Hope this helps! -Liancetalk/contribs 22:27, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Pkilla Musik Net Worth --Pkillamusik1 (talk) 19:56, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Pkillamusik1 Do you have a question or need help? -Liancetalk/contribs 22:28, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for rejecting this non-article. This is just a bad test by a newcomer while all info in it is already in the article Storm Prediction Center. This user should not be allowed to create a redundant article.

Pierre cb (talk) 03:30, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Pierre cb No problem, thanks for letting me know. The submitting user had not included any context so the draft fell short of our required policies regarding context anyway. I will add a note to the draft so future AfC reviewers will be aware as well if the draft is resubmitted. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 03:35, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

User:Pkillamusik1 i was deleted i want my page back? --Pkillamusik1 (talk) 20:25, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Lance. The article draft for Twisted Wood Guitars cites a respected paper which discusses the company in detail, the largest ukulele publication in the world which produced a full 4 page spread about the company, a top 5 wide-reaching industry magazine which discusses the company in detail, and the largest ukulele review site in the world which published a several hundred word review about one of their instruments.... I query how that doesn't constitute significant coverage from reliable secondary sources independent of the subject. I appreciate your desire to be zealous, but in this case, I think perhaps look into these citations in further detail. Many Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Learningtouke (talkcontribs) 21:13, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Learningtouke - on Wikipedia, articles about corporations have higher standards and must meet the notability criteria for companies, this means citing sources that demonstrate significant coverage in reliable, independent, and secondary sources. A cited source must meet all of the aforementioned criteria, please review WP:ORGCRIT and WP:CORPDEPTH for more information. Your draft article was declined because I did not feel that there were multiple sources that met these criteria and demonstrated notability. If you add more sources and meet the criteria you can click the "Resubmit" button to get another review. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 21:20, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi Liance, I have reviewed WP:ORGCRIT and WP:CORPDEPTH.
As aforementioned, the article did contain multiple well-known and reliable independant sources that demonstrated significant coverage of the corporation. 2001:56A:FA97:E800:7449:B402:90CD:75D2 (talk) 21:24, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Could you list the sources you are referring to? -Liancetalk/contribs 21:32, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
https://ukulelemagazine.com/gear-reviews/ukulele-review-twisted-woods-switchback-tenor-has-a-clear-warm-sound
https://msretailer.com/omg-music-obtains-exclusive-distribution-of-twisted-wood-ukuleles/
https://www.gotaukulele.com/2021/12/twisted-wood-ember-concert-ukulele.html
https://www.stalberttoday.ca/entertainment-news/hawaiian-style-1287632 Learningtouke (talk) 21:48, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

1. Ukelele Magazine might be good for establishing notability about the company's product, but there are maybe 1-2 sentences max that discuss the company itself. We are looking for significant coverage about the company, not their products. Also may not qualify as a reliable source.

2. Retailer constitutes trivial/routine coverage (see WP:NCORP#Examples of trivial coverage) and is little more than a business announcement. Also is less than WP:100WORDS in total.

3. Got A Ukelele same as the first source, maybe 1 sentence max actually concerns the company itself rather than its products.

4. St. Albert Today appears to be mostly an interview and quotes from the company's founder which makes it non-independent and a primary source. Additionally please see WP:LOCALCOVERAGE.

Learningtouke Next time, please read through the entirety of cited guidelines like WP:NCORP before requesting additional help, as it would have answered any questions you had regarding your draft. Additionally, if you believe you have a conflict of interest with the company or were paid to contribute please WP:DISCLOSE your connection or you may face a block from Wikipedia. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 22:00, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Examples of substantial coverage
Media coverage of a company's product is regarded as substantial coverage of said organization.
I'm familiar with the guidelines.
Please don't threaten blocks for entirely unsubstantiated presuppositions. There is no need for that, and that kind of inane comment severely reduces the quality of work that we are able to do here.
Many Thanks Learningtouke (talk) 22:54, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Please see WP:PRODUCTREV? Reviews that narrowly focus on a particular product or function without broader context (e.g. review of a particular meal without description of the restaurant as a whole) do not count as significant sources. - it's on the same page that you cited, and in the two reviews you linked there was at the very most one or two sentences about the company mentioning little other than the company's name or location. As mentioned earlier these sources are also self-published blogs which do not qualify as WP:RS. Additionally I was not threatening a block in any way, I was just adding a reminder that conflicts of interest must be declared as it seemed that you had some relationship to the subject you are writing about, and I apologize if it came off as a threat. Regards, -Liancetalk/contribs 16:09, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

How would you no if the is insufficient context in a artical if you are unfammilair with the subject? not passing the Dig Down Concept / Alan B Christ for this reason is just bad editing by pepole that have no knowledge of the subject matter

                                                     70.190.172.188 (talk) 23:47, 16 March 2022 (UTC)Alan B Christ
Alan B Christ Your draft was declined because it is not understandable to the average reader. At the time of review Draft:Dig Down Concept / Alan B Christ had no little content on the page that explained the topic or made it accessible to the average encyclopedia reader and consisted of mostly document scans. Please add a proper WP:LEAD section and read Writing better articles before resubmitting. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 16:18, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi there Liance!

Thank you for reviewing my submission for article review. I read your critique carefully, and removed all reference to the 'Liberty Block' citations. Frankly, I do not think they were necessary to any part of the article, but included them as redundant source material on top of the existing secondary sources. Several include ABC and NBC news rooms, and the concomitant write ups. I believe that this should now be good enough for a basic starter article. Though of course I will continue to work on it further over time, but this should meet the minimum requirements as I understand them at this stage. Thank you very much. Th78blue (talk) 01:13, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Hey Th78blue, thanks for reaching out. Sources need to be independent of the subject to show notability and demonstrate significant coverage. The "KTNV" source is not independent (This segment is paid for by Las Vegas Coin Company is listed at the bottom of the page) meaning it is not a suitable source. KSL looks OK but local news coverage generally do not strongly indicate notability (for example see WP:LOCALCOVERAGE). The subject is not mentioned by name in any other qualifying sources, so WP:GNG is not met. If you find additional sources that are independent, reliable, secondary, and demonstrate significant coverage, you can resubmit the draft and have a reviewer take another look. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 01:24, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
I'll see what else I can find. I thought the KSL source was good, and I'd consider that regional, not exactly 'local', since it is a dominant station out of the largest city in Utah (Salt Lake) and is referring to use of the Goldback on a statewide basis. That said, how many more would your say are needed beyond that one then? Just so I can see what I can find? Obviously the more the merrier, but a benchmark is always good too. Th78blue (talk) 01:28, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
Th78blue I generally abide by WP:THREESOURCES so long as the sources demonstrate significant coverage and are independent of each other. Of course this is not a hard and fast rule and there are cases where two sources are appropriate if they are very in-depth. -Liancetalk/contribs 01:30, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
Three sounds good. I will see if I can locate two more then. I'd like to keep the primary source as well though so that readers could verify directly from that source, but also add two more secondary sources, if that works? Th78blue (talk) 01:34, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Th78blue Sounds good. No problem with having primary sources in an article to verify information if there are no good secondary substitutes. However do note that primary sources do not contribute to establishing notability, so you will still need to locate two more qualifying, secondary sources. Best of luck! -Liancetalk/contribs 01:35, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

That makes sense. I just felt that more information was better, as long as (as you mentioned) it is accompanied by notable and reliable secondary sources. I don't write many new articles. I mostly do work on the typo team, recent changes patrol, and lots of 'gnome-like' work... That said, I would like to do more article creation if I can get the hang of it with some of these smaller ones to start. Th78blue (talk) 01:38, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
Th78blue That's good to hear! Article creation is always a bit daunting at first, but once you get the hang of identifying good sources, understanding notability criteria, etc you will have no problem. We all start somewhere :) As always do not hesitate to reach out if you have any more questions. -Liancetalk/contribs 01:42, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
I just spend a good amount of time on the article. I DID find another source, and removed the paid one that you had flagged as problematic. I have submitted for review again. I think honestly at this stage it should pass basic muster for an article, though I will of course add it to my watchlist and continue to add any other sources too it as they arise (and from more and different regions of course too). Th78blue (talk) 03:35, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi again Liance, sorry to pester, and no worries if you just haven't gotten back around to it yet, but I'd love it if you could take another look at my Goldback article for submission. Thanks! Th78blue (talk) 14:03, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Th78blue I tend not to review AfC submissions more than once in a row for the sake of fairness and to let a fresh set of eyes have a look in case I missed anything. If you submitted the draft a reviewer should get to it at some point or you could ask at the AfC helpdesk. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:52, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

How do you do that cool "line thing" that you did above to respond to me comment? All I've known to do is colons to indent further and further, but I like the line you're doing! Also, no worries. I am not in any rush and will wait for the next reviewer then. Whenever that is. Thanks! Th78blue (talk) 16:57, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Th78blue You can use the {{od}} template and place it ahead of your message. Outdenting is fairly useful for preventing discussions from flying off the page. -Liancetalk/contribs 17:48, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Th78blue (talk) 17:49, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
That didn't include my text. Sorry, I am trying again. NOW I think I got it to work. Thanks! Th78blue (talk) 17:50, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Crypto news sites are among the only sources that exist about crypto games, so it is often impossible to find other sources. Since it is an emerging industry, most of the established news sites are not covering every development in the industry. All sources cited are legitimate journalists that do original reporting for the crypto industry. Please reconsider given the lack of resources to learn about these kinds of games, projects, companies in general. The only sources available on these topics are crypto news sites, in a large amount of cases. All sentences in this article are confirmed by the game and company's own websites and blog posts. If you advise that it would better to cite those instead, please let me know. But I thought it better to cite third parties. Bbpetro20 (talk) 03:06, 19 March 2022 (UTC)bbpetro

Bbpetro20 On Wikipedia all articles must meet the notability criteria meaning there must be significant coverage in reliable, independent (unaffiliated), secondary sources, and crypto news sites are not considered reliable per community consensus. Please search for sources that fit these requirements. Unfortunately if your topic is unable to meet these requirements it might not be suitable for inclusion. Hope this helps -Liancetalk/contribs 03:21, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

I am very confused on how to use this website. Ives tried to read messages that were sent to me but it won’t show me them. --Justinbeibergirly (talk) 04:00, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Justinbeibergirly! I'm Liance, your mentor on Wikipedia. You can view messages other editors send to you at User talk:Justinbeibergirly (also accessible from the menu of links at the top of the page). Please let me know if you have any additional questions. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:57, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Why is it that there are so many "stub" articles on the encyclopedia with little to no references and stuff? I am not meaning this question to be confrontational at all, but I am genuinely curious if you could help inform me as to how all of those passed muster and an article like mine (that I believe—albeit with a personal bias of course—is much better and better sourced and written etc.)? Thank you! Th78blue (talk) 21:46, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Th78blue Notability criteria on Wikipedia has changed significantly over the years, and as such there are a large number of stubs and non-notable articles left over from years past that would have been suitable for inclusion back then, but no longer meet guidelines like WP:GNG. Wikipedia is a work in progress so there are always going to be articles that don't conform to guidelines (see WP:WIP and WP:OSE). You are more than welcome to nominate non-notable subjects for deletion with a PROD or AfD provided they really are non-notable and not just lacking in references. -Liancetalk/contribs 04:35, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
I was just curious really. I appreciate the response and the relevant links. I am always learning. That is what keeps me coming back! Th78blue (talk) 04:53, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

...just one more "historical" question then. I don't know if you have been around long enough to gather the answer to this one, but when did that change? c. 2005? c.2010? More recent even? 2015 or 2020? I have not been editing long enough to know myself, but was just curious if you might know. Thanks! Th78blue (talk) 04:54, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Policy on WP constantly evolves since it is based on community consensus, so I'm not sure if there was a specific date where it changed, and was likely a much more gradual shift over the years. I haven't been around long enough or paid enough attention to be aware of when the most drastic changes occurred however so I might not be of much help here unfortunately! -Liancetalk/contribs 05:57, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liance, thank you for your feedback regarding Memgraph. I've updated the draft with new sources: scientific papers, conference proceedings, etc. I hope that this is now up to Wikipedia standard :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Autorko (talkcontribs) 08:30, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liance! Thank you for your feedback for Memgraph. I've added reference sources from research papers, conference proceedings, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Autorko (talkcontribs) 09:02, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello,

Can you take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Fusion_Blockchain and maybe leave a comment in the "talk" section with some advice on how to proceed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.193.46.20 (talk) 16:26, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi 95.193.46.20 - comments were left on the draft regarding where improvements could be made, namely requiring more sources to meet WP:GNG / WP:NCORP (multiple independent, reliable, secondary sources w/ significant coverage). If possible I would identify the WP:THREE best sources for the next reviewer and leave a comment on the draft to let the next reviewer know. -Liancetalk/contribs 20:55, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liance, I've added some additional sources hoping to get the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Elizabeth_Moore Elizabeth Moore page acceptable to be live. I'm hoping you can take a look. I know there is a backlog, and my hope is to get it approved by the end of week Friday so it can be counted as an accomplishment in our edit-a-thon taking place this week. Thank for your time, Beth Jane Toren 18:57, 22 March 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BethJaneToren (talkcontribs)

Hi BethJaneToren - given the time sensitive circumstances I have gone ahead and re-reviewed the article. It has been accepted seeing that it meets notability criteria. Best of luck with your edit-a-thon! -Liancetalk/contribs 20:58, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

hello, I just wanted to say thank you. being able to edit on wiki is not something i will probably ever do but just knowing I can means so much to me. its the first real change i have seen in over 4 years. thank you thank you thank you I feel alive again --MCVLTRAIX (talk) 06:31, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi MCVLTRAIX! I'm Liance, your Wikipedia mentor. I am glad you are excited about being able to edit - if you ever have any questions or just want some advice/resources about getting started here, do not hesitate to reach out. Best, -Liancetalk/contribs 19:55, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi User:Liance: Thank you for reviewing the submitted Vercel article. I just have one question. It looks like the article is still in the draft space. Will it remain there so that I might work on improvements? I know that a draft article will be deleted after six months of no activity. Thank you and best, LeepKendall (talk) 17:23, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi LeepKendall - articles in the draft space are unpublished, but as long as you make any edit (minor or major) every six months it will stay there, and you are free to spend as long as you wish to improve it. In the case that the draft does get deleted, that is usually not a big problem as you can reach out to an administrator to get it restored. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 19:57, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
Thank you User:Liance. Yes, it looked like it was still availble in the draft space for future improvements. I just wanted to confirm. Thanks much for your reply. Best LeepKendall (talk) 20:17, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you :) -Liancetalk/contribs 23:52, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

You are highly welcome. Benedict Maluil Akok (talk) 21:25, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

You made multiple large edits without giving an edit summary, please remember to give an edit summary unless you are making a minor edit. Idontknowwhattouseasmyusername300 (talk) 12:58, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Could you point out which edits you're referring to? Checking the edit history I added an edit summary for every major edit with content addition, I didn't add summaries only for minor edits where an additional ref was added or formatting was changed. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:05, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
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A Barnstar for being one of the best reviewers!

- Free Barnstar from OGxSLAY3R!

Thanks! -Liancetalk/contribs 04:45, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback Liance. The entry has been updated based upon your input. Additional reliable sources added. Liz Marks (talk) 15:09, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

I want to delete this message --Home Service99 (talk) 17:56, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello! What pages need creating? --Helloheart (talk) 00:28, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello Helloheart! I am Liance, your Wikipedia mentor. What subjects are you most interested in? We have many WikiProjects, so if you find one about a topic you are interested in or know a lot about that would be a good place to start! -Liancetalk/contribs 00:12, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liance, Previously you have rejected my article on Akshita Mudgal. That was my first submission and I was not sure on all the changes I could make. I added some citations and references and resubmitted it. I am not sure if I resubmit an article it will go back to your bucket. Please review my article and help me if any improvements are needed in it — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiEditor0809 (talkcontribs) 09:48, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

WikiEditor0809 If you resubmit the article using the blue "Resubmit" button at the top, then another reviewer will review it soon and provide you with feedback. -Liancetalk/contribs 00:19, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello Liance! Recently you reviewed my draft for the band Ludovico Technique. I have added several new sources addressing the issue of notability you had brought up. Specifically, the band has released three releases (2 full lengths and an EP) on Metropolis Records [1], a significant indie that has operated for 30 years and represents many notable artists (meets WP:BAND #5) and have documented evidence of having toured [2] [3] (meets WP:BAND #4). Additionally, an appearance on the German Alternative Charts (DAC) should meet WP:BAND #2.[4][5] Is it possible for you to take another peek? Thank you so much!! CorinneWestbrook (talk) 16:29, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Metropolis Records". Retrieved March 7, 2022.
  2. ^ "Ludovico Technique Announces 'Under Your Spell North American Tour 2017′". Hollywood Music Magazine. April 22, 2017.
  3. ^ Christian, Alyssa (February 27, 2016). "Ludovico Technique Announces North America Tour with Leaether Strip". Antihero Magazine.
  4. ^ "LUDOVICO TECHNIQUE Drop Song". Heavy Magazine. KSP Productions. September 3, 2021.
  5. ^ "Deutsche Alternative Charts". Retrieved September 27, 2021.
Hi CorinneWestbrook - you can resubmit the draft for review using the blue "Resubmit" button at the top of your draft and a reviewer will look it over soon. I do not re-review draft articles for the sake of fairness so a fresh set of eyes can provide a second opinion. If possible I would leave a note with this information at the top of the draft as well. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 00:16, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
Ok thank you so much! :) I had done all of that last month :) Either way, I appreciate your time!! CorinneWestbrook (talk) 11:49, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liance,

Thank you for taking the time to review my article, It is a film I really like that we watched in class for study. I am just wondering what else is needed for it to meet the criteria, it has an IMBD and a production website.

Any help would be appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clarkeofsalford (talkcontribs) 07:55, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Hey Clarkeofsalford - Articles on Wikipedia need to meet notability criteria in order to be included. This means having references that show significant coverage in secondary independent sources - you can refer to WP:NFILM for more info. If the film meets any criteria at WP:NFO there is a good chance it is notable. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 06:01, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, how do i delete my account --Nora bonaccorso (talk) 15:34, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Nora bonaccorso - unfortunately it is not possible to completely delete a Wikipedia account as all edits need to be attributed. You can request pages you created be deleted, or see WP:DELETEACC for more options. -Liancetalk/contribs 05:59, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello,

First of all, thank you for the prompt review of this page: [[1]]

Apologies in advance for asking questions that might be answered elsewhere. I have actually looked through many help articles and tried to assimilate information as best as possible, however, it seems there are some specific issues that exist that need to be fixed.

There are no specific flags in the draft article submitted, that I am able to locate, that indicate what the specific problems are that need to be fixed.

Can you provide detail on the specific issues that caused the article to be rejected? Without specific issues highlighted, it becomes a guessing game as to what/how to fix them. I would like to make the adjustments and resubmit the article, which, hopefully, would be the first of several on newer manufacturing, supply chain, and IIoT technologies.

Thank you very much in advance, respectfully yours,

--Viobeatty (talk) 16:05, 13 April 2022 (UTC)Viobeatty

Hi Viobeatty - articles on Wikipedia must be written with a neutral point of view in order to be included. This means language should objectively describe the subject of the article. Draft:Decisyon had some issues with this, such as, for example, Decisyon Digital Factory is positioned as a "turnkey" solution for manufacturers which is a bit promotional in tone. External links should also be removed from the body of the article. Lastly please review WP:NCORP before resubmitting to ensure your draft meets the notability criteria. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 06:04, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

hello, just got a question so that i can improve my article; what sources were not good to be used in the reach free school article? so far, after reading more about independent sources, i think that these sources i used need to change: 2,3,7,?10? is there any else that were not reliable enough, or that were not notable enough? i'm quite new to this. thanks in advance if you respond bro. SPPoonsQwert (talk) 16:10, 14 April 2022 (UTC)sPPoonsQwert

SPPoonsQwert Articles on most educational institutions must meet the criteria at WP:NSCHOOL which I commented on your draft. Specifically you need additional significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent to demonstrate the draft is notable enough for inclusion. I would recommend picking the WP:THREE sources that best fit the criteria and then note them on your draft. -Liancetalk/contribs 04:04, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi again Liance! I just wanted to see if you know of any way to "bump" my draft submission that you reviewed and declined the first time around. I think it has enough RS'es now for approval, but I don't want to step out of bounds or out of line, but I was also hoping to see if there was any way to have some visibility into the approval process as to when it may (or may not) be approved into the main space. Thank you! Th78blue (talk) 17:36, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Th78blue Unfortunately a vast majority of AfC reviewers do not perform reviews on request and there are no real ways to "bump" a submission (which some editors might see as gaming the system), so you just have to sit tight for now. One suggestion I have is locating a WikiProject relevant to your draft subject and asking someone with lots of expertise in the area to check it over and make sure it looks good to prevent another decline. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 04:02, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Certainly no intention to "game the system", thank you for the information. Th78blue (talk) 12:52, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liance,

Thank you for taking the time to review my article and for contributing to Wikipedia in general. (I also think your Equality for All userbox is really cool.) I was wondering if you could give me more details about article creation criteria. I saw that you denied my article because of WP:LOCALCOVERAGE, and when I read this it said that local sources are considered less significant, but I was wondering if the local independent secondary sources could be considered in combination with the one national independent secondary source as part of the "multiple" count, and if the local coverage being from a major city has an effect on this. If not, how many more national sources would you recommend I add before re-nominating my article?

Thank you! JA's New Camera (talk) 05:31, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi JA's New Camera - articles about organizations on Wikipedia must meet WP:NCORP, which means (generally at least three) secondary, reliable sources that are independent of the subject and demonstrate significant coverage. Aside from the SD News and Del Mar Times sources the references are not suitable, YouTube is also considered an unreliable source. WP:LOCALCOVERAGE states that at least one regional, statewide, provincial, national, or international source is necessary so as long as you have one of those it would work. -Liancetalk/contribs 05:37, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation. In regards to your comment about YouTube, do you mean that YouTube is always considered unreliable on Wikipedia, or is it possible to provide additional attribution showing that a particular video's source can be considered credible? JA's New Camera (talk) 05:44, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
JA's New Camera Unless the video is uploaded officially by an organization/credible source, YouTube is considered unreliable and should not be used if possible (more info at WP:RSPYT). Using YouTube as a source is acceptable at best but should be avoided if a substitute can be located. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 05:52, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
In my situation, there are sadly no other sources for the information I am citing. Is there any way for me to provide supplementary information to verify the reliability of the channel that posted the video I'm citing? JA's New Camera (talk) 06:13, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
You can cite the media/source directly without linking to a potentially copyright-violating YouTube video if the original source is reliable. Templates like {{cite episode}} or {{cite AV media}} could work. -Liancetalk/contribs 06:18, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
The video was originally posted on YouTube, the channel is run by the executive director of the foundation that administers the competition that the video is about. I was just wondering if there were some way for me to cross-reference the video to show that it's reliable. JA's New Camera (talk) 06:31, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Unfortunately I'm not terribly certain if there's an elegant or correct way to do that. I would just cite the YouTube video as you would with any web source and note the publisher is the organization you are referring to if there are absolutely no alternatives to the YT vid. -Liancetalk/contribs 06:34, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Forgot to mention that actually the SD News source would not be considered independent because it is an interview with individuals related to the subject, so it would not count toward notability. -Liancetalk/contribs 05:38, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your guidance! JA's New Camera (talk) 07:16, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi there. I noticed you declined my submission for the creation of the JoJo's Pitter Patter Pop article. Could you please provide some ways I could improve the article to increase its 'acticleness'. Thanks :) FishandChipper (talk) 15:19, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi FishandChipper - I commented on Draft:JoJo's Pitter Patter Pop! that the draft did not meet WP:NGAME (notability for video games). On Wikipedia all articles must meet notability criteria, which is significant coverage in independent, secondary, reliable sources. Twitter should not be cited as it is not a secondary source. Otherwise, the draft cites two sources which only cover the game's announcement and shutdown, which is not enough to establish significant coverage of the game. Please add more references to demonstrate notability. Hope this helps. -Liancetalk/contribs 15:26, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for this feedback. This is my first article so Im pretty new to this. FishandChipper (talk) 15:28, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

[2] - YouTube is not a source at all. It’s a publishing platform. The level of reliability comes from whoever uploaded it. SK2242 (talk) 19:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Per WP:RSPYT YouTube is, in almost all cases, not considered a reliable source which is why I state it's an unreliable source if it is cited as one by a draft author. Although it can be considered a reliable source if a news org, etc uploads it, that was not the case for the review in question. -Liancetalk/contribs 16:17, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello good evening. Could you please help me on how to publish my reports here. Thanks --Moses Brian (talk) 14:04, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi Moses Brian, welcome to Wikipedia. Articles on Wikipedia must meet specific notability criteria. Assuming you are referring to your user page, autobiographies are highly discouraged due to the unavoidable bias they cause. You can take a look at Help:Your first article for more information. -Liancetalk/contribs 20:30, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liance, please I need help with my article page with review and approval it has been 6 months now. I will appreciate any feedback. warm regards! — Preceding unsigned comment added by George Nyiam (talkcontribs) 12:14, 21 May 2022 (UTC) George Nyiam (talk) 12:26, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello. I would like to add a website link to Detective, a band, as well as for Jon Hyde, the drummer in Detective. I just created an account under DetectiveThe Band, but I can't figure out how to add the band's website to the Wikipedia entries. Can you help me? --DetectiveTheBand (talk) 13:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Since I was not the original author, I might not be the right person to re-submit Draft:exaly; but I believe the latest version meets your expectation! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MojoDiJi (talkcontribs) 23:21, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

I've edited it, added citations, backed it up with resources, and submitted it again. Since then, it has just been there. Hasn't been approved or declined. As time goes by, I feel like I did it wrong or missed something. Can you please check? Am kinda clueless right now and need help to understand what I need to do to get it accepted. Can you please help? Karupatti (talk) 20:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC) Karupatti (talk) 20:06, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello Liance, thanks for taking the time to review the dot big bang draft. I've addressed the notability concerns that led to the draft being declined, and added more detailed citations for recent press coverage from 3D World magazine (a cover feature), a gamedeveloper.com in-depth interview, Dexerto news on dot big bang, and quotes about labor issues from staff members in The Washington Post. I hope this helps the new draft to meet the notability guidelines. I will be maintaining the page and adding more media citations as they come in. Johniceland (talk) 12:29, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Please review draft page for “Girls Academy League” again. Your feedback was addressed. The Draft page was resubmitted for approval almost 4 months ago and no action has been taken. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chicagosoccerdad (talkcontribs) 04:45, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article PlanetSide 2 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of David Fuchs -- David Fuchs (talk) 00:01, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

The article PlanetSide 2 you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:PlanetSide 2 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of David Fuchs -- David Fuchs (talk) 14:21, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi I need help with my srd sassa relief funds are declined I would like to now the reason why? I was declined please help --Vaneciamay (talk) 09:59, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi. I need to know why I am decline with a reason of source of income. I do not know about any income. But Iam decline from getting srd sassa R350 social relief funds --Vaneciamay (talk) 10:54, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Did I get money after editing. --Ahmad Raza 07 (talk) 02:47, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liance, I hope you are well.

I'd like to establish contact with you to try and understand how we can get the IoTeX Wikipedia page published. Let me be very frank. I joined in late November. Various attempts by malicious actors were made. We had nothing to do with those attempts. We believe a competitor tried to get us blacklisted. But I have no proof so I will not dive further into that conversation. We ourselves have tried to get the page published on various occasiones but we understand we did not meet the notability criteria. When we did, we still got rejected for "other reasons" including COI. Desperate because it was difficult to undestand why we were facing issues, we sought "professional" help but firstly got ripped off by scammers and then were advised by not so professional people.

We are now at the point where we are wary of doing anything. We simply want a 100% objective IoTeX article published. We have no intentions of promoting ourselves in any way, shape or form. We simply want our growing community to have a global forum where they can find basic, simple, non-promotional information about our project.

That being said, is there anyway you can guide me through the process of publication? Is it completely wrong for IoTeX to try and get themselves on Wikipedia? Is it true that we have been "blacklisted"?

Please, help me with this issue.

Cheers and regards,

Ollie4545 Ollie4545 (talk) 16:28, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

How can I publish my background history --Mahamed Mahamud islan (talk) 06:07, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liance, I made changes to the IoTeX draft hoping we now fit the requirements for the page to be published. I await your response.

Cheers and regards, Ollie4545 (talk) 20:15, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Hey, I was wondering if there's an easier way to insert "citation needed" than going to the source editor and inserting it there. Thanks a ton :) --AetherKiller (talk) 18:47, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Information icon Hello, Liance. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that User:Timothyplaya/sandbox, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 20:03, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

The article PlanetSide 2 you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:PlanetSide 2 for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of David Fuchs -- David Fuchs (talk) 23:42, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Reason given was that it read more like a promo piece, but if you read, its just to add another player to the list of other Venture Capital firms in the directory. Would appreciate assistance on how this feels like a promo piece. Sources given as quite neutral and reputed as well.

Here is the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lightbox_(India)

Help would be appreciated. Thanks Mattroger (talk) 07:53, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello Liance, new to Wikipedia - thanks for getting a look at the page I created. I'll beef it up with more sources and link to more existing articles on Wikipedia to better contextualize the importance of getting this page published. I'm really new to the process and really want to improve the quality of the page - how many citations would you recommend? Also, formatting is kinda tough to understand - are the any issues with that currently? M3d6f5 (talk) 16:14, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Hey M3d6f5! You are off to a great start - I would just make sure to review WP:GNG to make sure the subject you are writing about is notable enough for inclusion, which is a requirement for all articles in the encyclopedia. I would also make sure that you cite more reliable sources as all stated facts should be backed up with an inline citation so that they can be verified. If you have any additional questions don't hesitate to reach out. Liance (talk) 16:19, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Oh definitely - thank you for linking the GNG page. Feel like this definitely qualifies for page creations given how much exists out there about the topic and related components. There's just so much tied to the location, I'm surprised this doesn't exists already! Lot's of pages with much less information and cross references. M3d6f5 (talk) 16:28, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Hey Liance! Thank you for your note. I think you are mistaken about what makes a source reliable. The source I provided for my edit was a direct source, the most reliable of sources. That's not to say one way or another weather their claim is reliable, just that they are the source of the claim. Had the source been a 3rd party making a claim on someone else's behalf, then it would not be a reliable source. There are only two direct sources that are possible for that particular edit, the person making the claim and the person who the claim is about. The content that was added was neutral, it took neither side and was merely to provide information about a claim that has been made. As the claim is not baseless and does provide verifiable evidence to support the claim, it is a notable part of The Egg's history and should be included in the article. Had the edit been one sided or presented the claim as verified fact you would have a point. But because the information is about the claim, the only reliable source to state as such are the two people directly involved in the claim. It is not our job to act as the public relations team of either party, we are merely to present the facts. Unless it is in fact your job to act as a public relations representative, in which case your edit is unethical and against Wikipedia's TOS. But I'm assuming that is not the case and that you were merely mistaken about when a source is appropriate. I'll give you a could days to have the opportunity to respond before reversing the edit back to include the fact that a plagiarism claim has been made. 205.144.221.118 (talk) 23:47, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your helpful message on the reasons for non-promotion. It's made me wonder if what I want to do can and should be done. It's surprisingly difficult to find independent sources on the Rulebook as opposed to the politics behind the changes, which rightly belong in the history page. DaveLevy (talk) 09:57, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Liance. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "sandbox".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 19:56, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Well, i’ve Liked editing articles about Ocean liners but now i’ve Edited the articles about all the ships I remember. So could you suggest articles about ships that I could edit?

Oh, and also when I was editing the Andrea Doria article I got confused about how to get a image and after all i’m Just a new member and i’m Still learning how to edit --Jonah DeWeil (talk) 10:59, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

This is Jonah

About those images... well, when they say “upload a image” i don’t know where or how to click it. So could you tell me? --Jonah DeWeil (talk) 11:03, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Oh by the way don’t mind about those images because Palmiped helped me out with that --Jonah DeWeil (talk) 16:27, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

This is Jonah DeWeil

Curb Safe Charmer said that he has speedily delete my user page. Could you find where I could change my user name? --Jonah DeWeil (talk) 19:40, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Investment management --Stock index (talk) 04:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

hello, how do i add my picture to my profile and make my bio available on google for search? --Clinzzymusic (talk) 12:44, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Hola cómo le va? El prisma hexagonal prismal (talk) 14:40, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

hola namás vine a contar un chiste que le dice 1 a otro 1? 2 El prisma hexagonal prismal (talk) 14:41, 7 October 2022 (UTC)