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==Recording and production==

[[File:Joyce Manor (8109036674).jpg|thumb|left|Joyce Manor performing in 2012.]]

The band first made an attempt at recording the album in February 2013 in [[Philadelphia]] with Joe Reinhart of [[Algernon Cadwallader]]. The quartet tracked eight songs but were not pleased with the results.<ref name="insta1"/> Many of the songs had been written over a period of years,<ref name="CBS Los Angeles 2015 e708"/> but the band resumed writing, aiming for a higher quality output on the album after touring songs for years from earlier efforts they felt tired of.<ref name="OC 2013~~"/> Specifically, the band felt that they needed stronger [[hook (music)|hooks]] for the songs.<ref name="l905~~"/>

''Never Hungover Again'' marked a moment where the interplay between frontman Barry Johnson and guitarist Chase Knobbe began to take shape. In an interview, Johnson explained that Knobbe was dating a person in [[Santa Cruz, California|Santa Cruz]] who was in college; "While she was in school all day, he would just smoke [[weed]] and play guitar. And he got way better at guitar by doing that," he said.<ref name="Kerrang! 2019 m226">{{cite web | title=Joyce Manor: Album By Album With Frontman Barry Johnson | website=Kerrang! | date=September 10, 2019 | url=https://www.kerrang.com/joyce-manor-album-by-album-with-barry-johnson | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> Throughout 2013, the band spent time re-working songs ("End of the Summer", "Heated Swimming Pool"), and developing new ones ("Falling in Love Again", "The Jerk"). The band found the new material refreshing: "Like once we wrote [those two], it felt more rich and like something different that we hadn’t done yet," Johnson said.<ref name="Krueger 2022 a949">{{cite web | last=Krueger | first=Jonah | title=Joyce Manor on New Album 40 Oz. to Fresno, Fifth Wave Emo and "Trying to Get Murdered" by Sublime Fans: Interview | website=Consequence | date=June 9, 2022 | url=https://consequence.net/2022/06/joyce-manor-interview-40-oz-to-fresno/3/ | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> "It was during this batch of songwriting that I noticed a pretty big jump in the quality of the songs we were writing and Chase and I really started spending a lot of time on the vocals and guitar parts and how they interact with each other," he remembered.<ref name="insta1">{{Cite Instagram |user=instagram |postid=C9vOoV3yTAu |date=July 22, 2024 |title="damn what the fuck ten years since never hungover again came out..." |access-date=July 24, 2024}}</ref>

They asked Reinhart to revisit the project with them later in the year, and the final album was recorded over two weeks in November 2013<ref name="OC 2013">{{cite web | last=Chemotti | first=Lucas | title=Joyce Manor Are Writing a New Record, Getting Their Songs Covered By Conor Oberst| website=OC Weekly | date=November 26, 2013 | url=http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2013/11/joyce_manor_are_writing_a_new.php|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20140517185634/http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2013/11/joyce_manor_are_writing_a_new.php|archivedate=May 17, 2014 | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> at the Lair in [[Hollywood, Los Angeles|Hollywood]], an all-analog facility.<ref name="CBS Los Angeles 2015 e708">{{cite web | title=Artist Feature: Joyce Manor | website=CBS Los Angeles | date=February 23, 2015 | url=https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/artist-feature-joyce-manor/ | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> The band chose the Lair due to its Neve 80s series [[mixing console]] and Studer 2” tape machine.<ref name="insta2">{{Cite Instagram |user=instagram |postid=C9x574XSKbf |date=July 23, 2024 |title="some people sent messages asking for more info about the gear we used to make NHA soo i decided to make a post that’s just for the recording nerds..."|access-date=July 24, 2024}}</ref> The studio was where [[Rivers Cuomo]] of [[Weezer]] recorded his demos, and Walcher played the album on Cuomo's drum kit. It was the first time the band had used a [[click track]] to record to, which was difficult for much of the band besides Ebert; "Once we got the hang of it we loved how it sounded and felt," Johnson said.<ref name="insta2"/> Much of the album was recorded live<ref name="OC 2013"/> and characterized by drunkenness: "For a lot of it, we were pretty wasted. Four of the takes we got in a row, while we were very drunk and high."<ref name="Hill 2014 t467"/> The band wanted to add more harmonies to songs but ran out of time; "We barely had enough time to finish basic tracking," Johnson confessed.<ref name="Baines p024">{{cite web | last=Baines | first=Huw | title=What Do You Think About Joyce Manor? Barry Johnson Talks 'Cody' | website=Stereoboard.com | url=https://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/201911/9 | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> Reinhart recalled with fondness the atmosphere: "The band crashed on couches and ate [[Trader Joe's]] dumpster food while we worked. It was an exciting time to be [[DIY]] kids."<ref name="l905">{{cite web | last=Cohen | first=Ian | title=You Know I Think About It Still: Joyce Manor’s SoCal Classic ‘Never Hungover Again’ Turns 10 | website=The Ringer | date=July 26, 2024 | url=https://www.theringer.com/music/2024/7/26/24206600/joyce-manor-never-hungover-again-10-year-anniversary-deluxe-reissue-interview | access-date=July 27, 2024}}</ref> "Christmas Card" was tracked slightly faster than the band intended so the band slowed down the take by adjusting the tape speed. Johnson recalled: "I knew [[the Beatles]] messed with tape speed on ''[[Revolver (Beatles album)|Revolver]]'' and ''[[Rubber Soul]]'' and I wanted to be like the Beatles."<ref name="insta2"/> The band shelved one track from the album, "Secret Sisters", but it resurfaced on 2022's ''[[40 oz. to Fresno]]'', where the band felt it fit better.<ref name="Sacher 2022 e896">{{cite web | last=Sacher | first=Andrew | title=How a 'Never Hungover Again' outtake and a text about Sublime led to Joyce Manor's new LP | website=BrooklynVegan | date=June 8, 2022 | url=https://www.brooklynvegan.com/how-a-never-hungover-again-outtake-and-a-text-about-sublime-led-to-joyce-manors-new-lp/ | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref>

They asked Reinhart to revisit the project with them later in the year, and the final album was recorded over two weeks in November 2013<ref name="OC 2013">{{cite web | last=Chemotti | first=Lucas | title=Joyce Manor Are Writing a New Record, Getting Their Songs Covered By Conor Oberst| website=OC Weekly | date=November 26, 2013 | url=http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2013/11/joyce_manor_are_writing_a_new.php|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20140517185634/http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2013/11/joyce_manor_are_writing_a_new.php|archivedate=May 17, 2014 | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> at the Lair in [[Hollywood, Los Angeles|Hollywood]], an all-analog facility.<ref name="CBS Los Angeles 2015 e708">{{cite web | title=Artist Feature: Joyce Manor | website=CBS Los Angeles | date=February 23, 2015 | url=https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/artist-feature-joyce-manor/ | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> The band chose the Lair due to its Neve 80s series [[mixing console]] and Studer 2” tape machine.<ref name="insta2">{{Cite Instagram |user=instagram |postid=C9x574XSKbf |date=July 23, 2024 |title="some people sent messages asking for more info about the gear we used to make NHA soo i decided to make a post that’s just for the recording nerds..."|access-date=July 24, 2024}}</ref> The studio was where [[Rivers Cuomo]] of [[Weezer]] recorded his demos, and Walcher played the album on Cuomo's drum kit. It was the first time the band had used a [[click track]] to record to, which was difficult for much of the band besides Ebert; "Once we got the hang of it we loved how it sounded and felt," Johnson said.<ref name="insta2"/> Much of the album was recorded live<ref name="OC 2013"/> and characterized by drunkenness: "For a lot of it, we were pretty wasted. Four of the takes we got in a row, while we were very drunk and high."<ref name="Hill 2014 t467"/> The band wanted to add more harmonies to songs but ran out of time; "We barely had enough time to finish basic tracking," Johnson confessed.<ref name="Baines p024">{{cite web | last=Baines | first=Huw | title=What Do You Think About Joyce Manor? Barry Johnson Talks 'Cody' | website=Stereoboard.com | url=https://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/201911/9 | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> "Christmas Card" was tracked slightly faster than the band intended so the band slowed down the take by adjusting the tape speed. Johnson recalled: "I knew [[the Beatles]] messed with tape speed on ''[[Revolver (Beatles album)|Revolver]]'' and ''[[Rubber Soul]]'' and I wanted to be like the Beatles."<ref name="insta2"/>

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After recording the album,<ref name="Hill 2014 t467">{{cite web | last=Hill | first=John | title=Fuck You, Mom, Joyce Manor Is a Real Band Now | website=VICE | date=July 25, 2014 | url=https://www.vice.com/en/article/r7y5xr/fuck-you-mom-joyce-manor-is-a-real-band-now | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> the band signed to fabled punk imprint [[Epitaph Records]].<ref name="Unterberger 2018 l701">{{cite magazine | last=Unterberger | first=Andrew | title=This Is Post-Growing Up: Joyce Manor's Story Gets Boring So Their Songs and Crowds Don't Have To | magazine=Billboard | date=September 21, 2018 | url=https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/joyce-manor-interview-million-dollars-to-kill-me-8476310/ | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref><ref name="TheWaster.com 2014 m158">{{cite web | title=Interview: Joyce Manor | website=TheWaster.com | date=September 12, 2014 | url=https://www.thewaster.com/interview/joyce-manor-climbing-the-ranks/ | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> Epitaph financed the album's mixing process, which was conducted by Tony Hoffer, known for his work with [[M83 (band)|M83]] and [[Phoenix (band)|Phoenix]].<ref name="Fortune 2016 o729">{{cite web | last=Fortune | first=Drew | title=Joyce Manor Grow Up | website=Bandcamp Daily | date=October 7, 2016 | url=https://daily.bandcamp.com/features/joyce-manor-interview | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> The band shelved one track from the album, "Secret Sisters", but it resurfaced on 2022's ''[[40 oz. to Fresno]]'', where the band felt it fit better.<ref name="Sacher 2022 e896">{{cite web | last=Sacher | first=Andrew | title=How a 'Never Hungover Again' outtake and a text about Sublime led to Joyce Manor's new LP | website=BrooklynVegan | date=June 8, 2022 | url=https://www.brooklynvegan.com/how-a-never-hungover-again-outtake-and-a-text-about-sublime-led-to-joyce-manors-new-lp/ | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> The cover art for the album depicts bassist Matt Ebert drunkenly embracing [[Hop Along]]'s [[Frances Quinlan]].<ref name="Cohen 2018 h624">{{cite web | last=Cohen | first=Ian | title=In The Garage: Joyce Manor Share The Scenes And Stories Behind 'Million Dollars To Kill Me' | website=Stereogum | date=August 21, 2018 | url=https://www.stereogum.com/2010520/joyce-manor-million-dollars-to-kill-me-interview/interviews/cover-story/ | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> "It looks like two people partying, but there’s nothing dangerous or sexy about it," Ebert joked.<ref name="Cohen 2014 g056">{{cite web | last=Cohen | first=Ian | title=» 'Never Hungover Again': A Little Bowling Alley Time With Torrance Pop-Punkers Joyce Manor | website= » Sports and Pop Culture from our rotating cast of writers – Grantland | date=July 22, 2014 | url=https://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/never-hungover-again-a-little-bowling-alley-time-with-torrance-pop-punkers-joyce-manor/ | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> ''Never Hungover Again'' first debuted as a stream on [[NPR]] on July 14, 2014.<ref name="Breihan 2014 h804">{{cite web | last=Breihan | first=Tom | title=Stream Joyce Manor Never Hungover Again | website=Stereogum | date=July 14, 2014 | url=https://www.stereogum.com/1692078/stream-joyce-manor-never-hungover-again/news/ | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref>

==Composition==

The often [[jangle pop|jangly]] guitar work on ''Hungover'' was frequently likened to [[the Smiths]]' [[Johnny Marr]];<ref name="Gotrich 2014 p613">{{cite web | last=Gotrich | first=Lars | title=Review: Joyce Manor, 'Never Hungover Again' | website=NPR | date=July 13, 2014 | url=https://www.npr.org/2014/07/13/329489701/first-listen-joyce-manor-never-hungover-again | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref><ref name="Cohen 2014 g056">{{cite web | last=Cohen | first=Ian | title=» 'Never Hungover Again': A Little Bowling Alley Time With Torrance Pop-Punkers Joyce Manor | website= » Sports and Pop Culture from our rotating cast of writers – Grantland | date=July 22, 2014 | url=https://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/never-hungover-again-a-little-bowling-alley-time-with-torrance-pop-punkers-joyce-manor/ | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> the band also noted [[Guided by Voices]] as an influence. ''[[Entertainment Weekly]]''{{'s}} Miles Raymer observed that "''Never Hungover Again'' combines the earnestly awkward adolescent squawk of emo foundation-layers [[Cap'n Jazz]] with Cali pop-punk’s buzzsaw hooks."<ref name="Raymer 2014 p651">{{cite web | last=Raymer | first=Miles | title=Emo revivalists Joyce Manor share the soundtrack of their tour | website=EW.com | date=September 30, 2014 | url=https://ew.com/article/2014/09/30/joyce-manor-tour-playlist/ | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> ~~"Heart Tattoo" was the band's attempt at writing a [[Blink-182]] song; Matt Ebert's backing vocals on the song's last chorus are a tribute to [[Tom DeLonge]].<ref name="l905"/>~~

Johnston took an oblique approach to his lyricism, allowing songs to develop line-by-line. He would write a lyric, and build upon them gradually with no set theme in mind.<ref name="TheWaster.com 2014 m158"/> In between writing, the band stayed on the road, touring with Algernon Cadwallader, which Johnson felt made an impact on their songwriting.<ref name="insta1"/>

==Release and artwork==

As the album prepared to enter mixing, Johnson grew worried that the sessions were unsalvageable. Epitaph financed the album's mixing process, which was conducted by Tony Hoffer, known for his work with [[M83 (band)|M83]] and [[Phoenix (band)|Phoenix]].<ref name="Fortune 2016 o729">{{cite web | last=Fortune | first=Drew | title=Joyce Manor Grow Up | website=Bandcamp Daily | date=October 7, 2016 | url=https://daily.bandcamp.com/features/joyce-manor-interview | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> Gurewitz viewed the choice as right in the band's purview: "He was a guy who'd done pop records, but really cool indie, [[Pitchfork (website)|Pitchfork]] kind of records,” Gurewitz explains. 'So I thought, OK, that’s the perfect matrix for Joyce Manor.'"<ref name="l905"/> Hoffer had a conversation with Johnson about the goals for mixing the album, and he stressed that he preferred the sound of [[synthesizers]] to guitars, offering "[[Friday I'm in Love]]" as a touchpoint.<ref name="l905"/>

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The cover art for the album depicts bassist Matt Ebert drunkenly embracing [[Hop Along]]'s [[Frances Quinlan]].<ref name="Cohen 2018 h624">{{cite web | last=Cohen | first=Ian | title=In The Garage: Joyce Manor Share The Scenes And Stories Behind 'Million Dollars To Kill Me' | website=Stereogum | date=August 21, 2018 | url=https://www.stereogum.com/2010520/joyce-manor-million-dollars-to-kill-me-interview/interviews/cover-story/ | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> "It looks like two people partying, but there’s nothing dangerous or sexy about it," Ebert joked.<ref name="Cohen 2014 g056">{{cite web | last=Cohen | first=Ian | title=» 'Never Hungover Again': A Little Bowling Alley Time With Torrance Pop-Punkers Joyce Manor | website= » Sports and Pop Culture from our rotating cast of writers – Grantland | date=July 22, 2014 | url=https://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/never-hungover-again-a-little-bowling-alley-time-with-torrance-pop-punkers-joyce-manor/ | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref> ''Never Hungover Again'' first debuted as a stream on [[NPR]] on July 14, 2014.<ref name="Breihan 2014 h804">{{cite web | last=Breihan | first=Tom | title=Stream Joyce Manor Never Hungover Again | website=Stereogum | date=July 14, 2014 | url=https://www.stereogum.com/1692078/stream-joyce-manor-never-hungover-again/news/ | access-date=April 17, 2024}}</ref>

==Critical reception==

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