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:{{u|Bluerasberry}}, {{u|Svampesky}}, I appreciate your willingness to facilitate discussion on this issue, but in my opinion ''The Signpost'' is the very precise opposite of the ideal space to be placing a formal community response to WMF legal's request. It's not a community forum with a specific, appropriate remit for what should be a somewhat pro forma process. I hope your coverage ends up being substantial and helps to elucidate and inform the debate in a helpful way--as indeed I have used many of its past issues to edify myself on various goings on in and about the project. But also, bluntly, it has a very peculiar role that is such an odd fit for the rest of project space and involves such a lot of advocacy in ways that other projects don't and sometimes leave me feeling uncomfortable, that I've often in recent years felt like it was time for it to be spun off the project to become it's own, generally independent thing. But I don't think people are going to need to agree with me that far to also agree that an organized community response should be taking place either here or on the [[WP:VILLAGEPUMP]]. {{pb}} Yes, special care and procedures may be necessary in this instance to capture and voice our collective consensus response to WMF Legal's request, but I think both the reaching of the consensus decision and the drafting of the conclusions for any additional formalized statements is should take place in our spaces already reserved for those purposes. Any role for the Signpost should be peripheral to that process. It doesn't have the central positioning, exposure, formal role, or ideal setup for using our normal consensus processes in full view of the community where its members would expect to find such discussions. And if you already intended a purely auxiliary role and I misread your above comments, I do apologize. But I didn't want to wait to voice these thoughts if you really did intend to organize the community's response itself through ''The Signpost''. ''[[User:Snow Rise|<b style="color:#19a0fd;">S</b><b style="color:#66c0fd">n</b><b style="color:#99d5fe;">o</b><b style="color:#b2dffe;">w</b><b style="color:#B27EB2;">Rise</b>]][[User talk:Snow Rise|<sup><b style="color:#d4143a"> let's rap</b></sup>]]'' 04:33, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

::Yes, I tend to agree with [[user:Snow Rise]]. This talk page and this article is what has attracted the attention of everyone, including the Indian media's. This is where the statement should be made, and after reading [[user:Daniel]]'s post above, i.e. the post of someone knowledgeable, articulate, and experienced who was following the community's decision making in near-real time, that decision should not now be left to the whims and comprehension of a single uninvolved, and perhaps unknown and unpredictable, individual. Better yet, the decision should be made here in a paragraph not much longer that this, and then conveyed ''here'' in a closing statement by [[user:JSutherland (WMF)]], who made the first statement above. [[User:Fowler&amp;fowler|<span style="color:#B8860B">Fowler&amp;fowler</span>]][[User talk:Fowler&amp;fowler|<span style="color:#708090">«Talk»</span>]] 10:47, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

:::PS On the other hand, the community may not be able to arrive at a consensus paragraph, or it might be said that the consensus was swayed by one or two or three ... individuals, in other words that perhaps the closer really should be someone uninvolved and experienced, and certainly an admin. I can propose one: [[user:Ealdgyth]]. I don't know if they'lld be interested. . [[User:Fowler&amp;fowler|<span style="color:#B8860B">Fowler&amp;fowler</span>]][[User talk:Fowler&amp;fowler|<span style="color:#708090">«Talk»</span>]] 11:05, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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