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Line 388: :I disagree that we have met the RFC's standard for "ballot access to 270." In addition to the issues you note with TX, GA, and IA, I cannot find good sources for CA, AZ, MI, & TN. The links you provided are largely claims, not confirmations. You did omit one though: Oklahoma. - - I separately believe that we should read the tone of the comments in that RFC, rather than just its closing comment. In my estimation, the majority of opposition centered on the expectation that RFK would fade into irrelevance. That has not occurred, and I think it makes sense to reevaluate. I also think we are going to have a hard time citing ballot access; there are some funky ways it gets reported. HOWEVER, we have now raised the issue and given opportunity for editors to come to our way of thinking. They have not, so the issue should be dropped. ''<small>[[User_talk:GreatCaesarsGhost|<span style="color:#938f8d">GreatCaesarsGhost</span>]]</small>'' 13:33, 22 July 2024 (UTC) ::[[Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 2024 presidential campaign#Ballot access|The Kennedy campaign article]] does list California, Michigan, and Tennessee with the following sources: CA: [https://ballot-access.org/2024/04/29/american-independent-party-of-california-nominates-robert-f-kennedy-jr%7D 1], [https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4630903-rfk-jr-qualifies-for-california-ballot/ 2]; MI: A cite error and [https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/18/robert-f-kennedy-jr-michigan-presidential-ballot-2024-election/73371452007/ 2]; TN: [https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/rfk-jr-miss-cnn-debate-race-get-state-ballots-rcna157290 1] :::The campaign article should obviously not be used as a source of verification. ~ I see now on the CA SoS site where AIP does have ballot access, so that one is good. TN presents a problem because we don't know the state will come back and say YES or NO, or that anyone will write an article about it. I'm trying to avoid [[WP:OR]], but I think we need to acknowledge that our standard is going to be complicated to enact. ''<small>[[User_talk:GreatCaesarsGhost|<span style="color:#938f8d">GreatCaesarsGhost</span>]]</small>'' 13:30, 24 July 2024 (UTC) ::It should be noted though that the campaign article only lists Kennedy as certified for 184 out of 538 electors. --[[User:Super Goku V|Super Goku V]] ([[User talk:Super Goku V|talk]]) 23:14, 23 July 2024 (UTC) | |||