Talk:Andy Ngo: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

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Jacobian is a biased source and clearly very critical of Ngo's work and it's impact on his subjects but it doesn't say he isn't a journalist (even a biased far-right one). RS's mention about journalism and Ngo was to claim he wasn't acting like a jounralist when he failed to note what the Patriot Prayer members were discussing during the video. In effect they are saying he should have been doing his job at that time vs messing around on his phone. That might be a fair criticism but it isn't saying he isn't a journalist. For any of this to be DUE we would need a RS looking at these sources and specifically noting that they didn't call Ngo a journalist. We can't be the ones to decide to do that since it would be interpreting the sources (hence OR). Even if it wasn't there is still a question of DUE for any of this material. (updated) [[User:Springee|Springee]] ([[User talk:Springee|talk]]) 18:41, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

:::Springee, what do you mean by "per 1RR"? You've already reverted today and I'm not seeing where any of the [[WP:3RR]] exemptions would cover this latest revert. –[[User:Dlthewave|dlthewave]] [[User_talk:Dlthewave|☎]] 22:52, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

::::[[User:Springee|Springee]] your summary of the Politifact article above is frankly quite difficult to understand and you'll need to rephrase it. The article clearly accuses Ngo as misrepresenting material related to purported violent antifa attacks on social media. From the Jacobin article: {{tq|But it would also be a mistake to see Ngo as an innocent or as a journalist}}. It repeatedly makes this point. From Rolling Stone: {{tq|But the issue wasn’t so much that Ngo had finally been “exposed” as a right-wing provocateur as opposed to a journalist}}. In accordance with [[WP:ROWN]] you should have looked for another place to integrate this material rather than a block revert. Please read the sources before you make a block revert, especially given the contested nature of this page and your long history of involvement with it. This material should be restored ASAP, though of course I'll observe the 1RR policy. I'm open to suggestions of amended wording [[User:Noteduck|Noteduck]] ([[User talk:Noteduck|talk]]) 23:04, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

== Recent attack (the second one in three years) by left-wing protesters ==