Talk:Comparison of Star Trek and Star Wars - Wikipedia
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Star Trek is owned by CBS while Star Wars is owned by Lucasfilm.
The cited definition of space opera in the current article seems rather far-fetched to me: "Star Wars mainly belongs to the space opera subgenre of science fiction that was inspired by works such as Beowulf and King Arthur, and the origins of other mythology and world religions as well as ancient and medieval history."
The definition of the genre cited in its article is simply "colorful, dramatic, large-scale science fiction adventure, competently and sometimes beautifully written, usually focused on a sympathetic, heroic central character and plot action, and usually set in the relatively distant future, and in space or on other worlds, characteristically optimistic in tone. It often deals with war, piracy, military virtues, and very large-scale action, large stakes."
Where do Arthurian fiction, chivalric romance, and epic poetry even fit as literary antecedents for the genre? They too deal with war and heroic characters. But they tend to take place in the past (real or imagined) and are often far from optimistic in tone. The Epic of Gilgamesh features a failed quest for immortality, The Iliad mostly deals with death in the battlefield, the Odyssey features Odysseus losing all his comrades and wealth before returning to Homer's Ithaca and then turns into a revenge tale (and a rather gory one at that), Beowulf ends with the death and funeral pyre of the title character, Le Morte d'Arthur covers the deaths of Arthur, Guinevere and Lancelot, etc. Dimadick (talk) 09:10, 18 September 2016 (UTC)Reply
- Additionally, the cited documentary does not make the claim calling SW "mainly" belongs to the space opera genre. I'm fairly certain it doesn't even use the phrase "space opera," but I'd have to triple-check. --EEMIV (talk) 12:18, 18 September 2016 (UTC)Reply
@Dimadick:@EEMIV: [1] 8:45-8:50 Gary Kurtz clearly says Space Opera. Start watching also from 9:15 and 10:20.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 18:15, 24 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
I am not questioning that. I am questioning the definition of space opera given in this article. Dimadick (talk) 18:16, 24 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
The definition of Space Opera is as you quoted it. Star Wars being set mainly or entirely in outer space is a space opera. There's an interview from Mark Hamill that also repeats the King Arthur influence.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 18:19, 24 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
[2]--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 18:32, 24 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
The definition that I use derives from the sources in the space opera article. This article seems to ignore it and trace the origin of the genre to Arthurian fiction. Somehow, I do not see the connection. Dimadick (talk) 22:12, 4 December 2016 (UTC)Reply
Could we have a source about the Jesus analogy in Star Wars? Anakin Skywalker goes through a character arc of attaining maturity, facing trauma, getting corrupted, and eventually finding redemption. I thought he was a more complex character than Jesus, who, despite depicted as a human, has no apparent human flaw. Jesus always seemed one-dimensional to me. Dimadick (talk) 07:37, 10 December 2016 (UTC)Reply
"The two franchises have many similarities, including the word 'Star' in their respective titles" Hmm Australia and Austria have many similarities, including the letters AUST Dainamo (talk) 17:18, 8 February 2017 (UTC)Reply