Talk:History of concubinage in the Muslim world: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia
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:::There is no rule saying that. Nor is that a proper criteria. For example if we use your way of using quotes around "sexual slavery in islam" we don't see the academic sources which are obviously about Islamic sexual slavery like "Slavery and sexual ethics in Islam" or "Islam and modern-day sexual slavery" which you can see when you search without using the quotes. In substance they are the same subject. Its not necessary that every single word be the same as the title. We only need the substance of that term.[[User:Mcphurphy|Mcphurphy]] ([[User talk:Mcphurphy|talk]]) 04:38, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::If you were to create an article based on ""Slavery and sexual ethics in Islam" it would be called "Sexual ethics of slavery in Islam", not "sexual slavery in Islam". I repeat, "sexual slavery" is a specific term with specific connotations, that don't apply to the sources here.'''[[User:Vice regent|VR]]''' <sub>[[User talk:Vice regent|'''<font color="Black">talk</font>''']]</sub> 09:30, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::As I understand, Question is about definition of Sexual Slavery. Google Search gives: ''the state of being unlawfully kept in a situation in which one is repeatedly forced to engage in sexual activity against one’s will.'', [https://eige.europa.eu/thesaurus/terms/1382 This] gives: ''Form of sexual exploitation of individuals through the use or threat of force, often occurring in times of armed conflict or belligerent occupation.'', and [https://www.yourdictionary.com/sexual-slavery this] gives: ''A criminal activity that involves forced sexual acts upon a person who is usually held hostage as a slave.'' Now, the sources mentioned in this article clearly support "Sexual Slavery in Islam", since, Slavery is permitted in Islam, Sex with slaves is permitted in Islam, hence, Sexual slavery is permitted in Islam. You are saying that sex with slaves is not forced but consensual, hence, concubinage. But, let me clarify, Sexual slavery means when one can't choose their sexual partner according to their will, since slaves don't have will to choose with whom they have sex with, it accurately and appropriately falls in the category of Sexual Slavery. Further, there even exist one Muslim jurisprudence that slave has to be monogamous with their master, which means, it is the master by virtue of being their master who is choosing their sexual partner not slave herself, hence, it is forced upon them, therefore, '''sexual slavery in Islam''' is more appropriate term. [[User:Dhawangupta|Dhawangupta]] ([[User talk:Dhawangupta|talk]]) 21:51, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
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:::: Welp, I wanted to make some non-dispute related edits (which would probably still get reverted), but can't because of this edit war. Mcmurphy, I note that you are avoiding certain questions like Silversteins question above and simply trying to gain support for your edits by canvassing. In the future I may be making be making some additions to Smiths texts to make his actual views more prominent instead of the current misrepresentations and selections of his work as well as adding to the modern Muslim views section by readding both my own unexplained, long deleted edits as well as Silversteins edits. Other additions may include Professor Brown's views for which there is no objection.
:::: Plus I note you're starting to drop the mention of banned and disruptive sockpuppeting editors who supported you and this article and relying on editors who only joined recently without much input. Even though I have not editwarred, you can count me in as editors who believe that the latter version is more NPOV, even if it's not perfect. There is really no consensus for any version of the article. It was even stable for around a month before your sudden edits. As soon as the article was created objections were made by WilliamOR and followed by me which went unheeded while only Koreangauteng supported the article. [[Special:Contributions/39.37.176.145|39.37.176.145]] ([[User talk:39.37.176.145|talk]]) 16:05, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
==Sunan an-Nasa'i 36-3411==
Muhammad having sex with his slave is not directly mentioned in the Article. It is only indirectly referenced in the line ''Muhammad and his Companions took for granted the allowance of having sex with female war captives.''
I understand that [https://sunnah.com/nasai/36/21 Primary sources] are not to be quoted directly without proper context and reference . But, Islamic legal sanction comes directly from words of Allah and actions of Muhammad, hence, I think it is quite relevant to quote it here. Inviting further comments from other editors and specifically @[[User:Mcphurphy|Mcphurphy]] who has done most of the recent additions.[[User:Dhawangupta|Dhawangupta]] ([[User talk:Dhawangupta|talk]]) 22:04, 12 July 2020 (UTC)