Talk:Emperor Jimmu: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

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::The name of Jimmu did not disappear from history in ancient Japan. I think the current sourcing is sufficient because all these sources mention Jimmu in reference to events that are clearly based off his life and the alleged date he ascended to the throne. Not discussing this briefly would be like talking about Buddha's life without mentioning that his teachings formed the basis for modern-day Buddhism.[[User:CurtisNaito|CurtisNaito]] ([[User talk:CurtisNaito|talk]]) 15:32, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

:::Why don't the other encyclopedias say so, then? The fact that sources discussing Showa-era Japanese nationalism and World War II briefly mention Emperor Jimmu doesn't mean anything for this article. If you want to go and create an article on those subjects and ''briefly mention'' Jimmu like your sources do, be my guest. But until you can locate an encyclopedia article on Emperor Jimmu that mentions World War II Japanese nationalism, you can't mention them in this article, and until you find an encyclopedia article on Emperor Jimmu that devotes half its text to World War II Japanese nationalism, you can't devote half of this article's text to the subject. When determining [[WP:WEIGHT]] and [[WP:NPOV]] we use [[WP:TERTIARY]] sources. End of story. [[Special:Contributions/182.249.240.27|182.249.240.27]] ([[User talk:182.249.240.27|talk]]) 06:39, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

::::A couple of things: first, Wikipedia's articles tend to be ''much'' longer and more comprehensive than other encyclopaedias, so there's no point comparing to other paper encyclopaedias. Having said that, the material ChrisNaito wants to keep does need a serious trim—the releant bits really could be stated ''much'' more concisely, and would serve the reader much better if they were. And can we cut out this "you don't have consensus for/against your edit" stuff? Nobody needs "consensus" to edit an article until ''after'' it's been established that there's a controversy. [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly Turkey]] ⚞[[User talk:Curly Turkey|''¡gobble!'']]⚟ 07:16, 24 May 2014 (UTC)