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It's fairly clear from the discussion on this talk page that it would appropriate to place the [[NPOV]] tag ({{ }}) at the top of the article. [[Special:Contributions/152.130.15.98|152.130.15.98]] ([[User talk:152.130.15.98|talk]]) 23:41, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

:A majority of actual, vested Wikipedia editors would say otherwise. [[User:Zaathras|Zaathras]] ([[User talk:Zaathras|talk]]) 23:55, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

:Nobody has demonstrated any substantial POV concern here. What we have seen here recently is a lot of people (or, at least, some people with a lot of IP addresses), many of whom were brought here from an externally coordinated campaign, who want to kvetch baselessly without even having read the FAQ. Loudly asserting "POV" or "controversy" is not the same as an actual controversy because an actual controversy has substance and loud assertions are just noise. To justify a NPOV tag we would need to see multiple [[WP:RS|Reliable Sources]] that present views contrary to those covered in the article. I doubt that such sources exist. [[User:DanielRigal|DanielRigal]] ([[User talk:DanielRigal|talk]]) 23:56, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

::Using wiki-sophistry to justify [[WP:OWN]] makes it even clearer that the tag is needed. If certain establishment editors here weren't emotionally invested in the article's POV, then they wouldn't care if there was an NPOV tag at the top. If you care about the tag being there, it means you're committed to the article presenting a particular POV in Wikipedia's voice. Does this article fall under ArbCom sanctions/special interest? [[Special:Contributions/152.130.15.98|152.130.15.98]] ([[User talk:152.130.15.98|talk]]) 00:29, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

:::That comment doesn't even make sense. The tag being there means that someone has presented a valid reason, grounded in reliable sources, for the tag to be there. You have not done this. It's that simple. Emotion has nothing to do with it.

:::If you disagree with anything in the article, the correct procedure is to make an edit request, in the form "change X to Y", or "add X after Y", or "delete X", with reliable sources to support your proposal. Anything else is just baseless kvetching as {{U|DanielRigal}} has already pointed out. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 00:48, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

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"Want us to stop lying about Gays Against Groomers? Ask very nicely and provide sources saying things that we already agree with. Jump through our hoops and play by our rules!" This is the most dishonest article I've ever seen. To all the editors of this article, there's not a shred of honor or integrity between the whole lot of you. I know you'll delete this. Who needs truth when you have a ban button?

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This is why I don't donate to Wikipedia. I hope you end up having to run ads for mobile games and dodgy penis enlargement products. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2600:6C5D:40F0:75F0:281F:35F3:B372:1C93|2600:6C5D:40F0:75F0:281F:35F3:B372:1C93]] ([[User talk:2600:6C5D:40F0:75F0:281F:35F3:B372:1C93#top|talk]]) 06:44, 27 December 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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