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The scenes with Twitchy the squirel are recored in fast forward - if you play them at cca. 60% of normal speed, Twitchy acts and sounds perfectly normal without any twitching/missing frames. Also his lips and actions are perfectly synced.

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go twitchy!!! —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.3.45.3|72.3.45.3]] ([[User talk:72.3.45.3|talk]]) 15:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

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EDIT OCTOBER 29TH: Removed vandalism. —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.111.20.75|88.111.20.75]] ([[User talk:88.111.20.75|talk]]) 22:52, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

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~~Isn't the correct title ''Hoodwinked!'' (with the exclaimation point)? That's how it's shown in the beginning of the actual film. [[User:AMK1211|AMK1211]] 03:39, 4 December 2006 (UTC)~~

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~~==Criticism of Quality of Animation==~~

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If the quality of the film's animation was criticized, although it was a computer-animated film, that means that most people believed it was supposed to be done in traditional animation, not computer animation.

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:I've read this several times and I still can't make sense of it. So you can't criticize the animation in a computer animated film or what? It _did_ look rather crappy compared to the $100.000.000+ budget films in my opinion, which is not surprising.

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~~:What? Traditional animation can look very bad as well (though I, for one, kinda liked the animation in ''Hoodwinked''). [[User:Esn|Esn]] 12:08, 3 May 2007 (UTC)~~

It was also released at the same time as Shrek2 and suffered from a comparison —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.87.93.229|24.87.93.229]] ([[User talk:24.87.93.229|talk]]) 23:15, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

~~== Synopsis ==~~

~~The synopsis switches tenses frequently. If anyone can be bothered fixing this, they probably should. [[User:Satchfan|Satchfan]] 09:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)~~

~~:I'm adding a cleanup box. As well as switching tenses the synopsis is overlong and a grammatical mess. [[User:Lee M|Lee M]] 12:29, 5 February 2007 (UTC)~~

~~-- Got it. I fixed it. It should do the trick. [[User:Jason Keyes|Jason Keyes]] 15:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)~~

~~== $15 or $20 mill? ==~~

These two different amounts are both mentioned in the article. Which is it? Somebody who knows oughta correct this mistake. —The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:83.92.60.79|83.92.60.79]] ([[User talk:83.92.60.79|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/83.92.60.79|contribs]]){{#if:21:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC)| 21:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC)|}}.

~~I also read somewhere that it was under $8 million, though I can't remember where... --[[User:Joshua H-Star-R|Joshua H-Star-R]] ([[User talk:Joshua H-Star-R|talk]]) 18:43, 17 June 2009 (UTC)~~

~~== Clarify please ==~~

~~"The book flipping by at the beginning of each sequence is tells the actual story of the movie. (Depending on the page, the original fairy tale is in there as well.)"~~

~~:Can anyone make any sense of this sentence? I have no idea how to fix it. [[User:zerocity|zerocity]] December 9 2006~~

~~How about: "The book that is seen at the beginning of each POV sequence is telling the actual story of the movie." [[User:Jason Keyes|Jason Keyes]] 17:38, 19 July 2007 (UTC)~~

~~== how old is red? ==~~

~~is red a teenager? i think she is but im not sure~~

~~[[User:kozmic sk8r|kozmic]]|[[user talk:kozmic sk8r|sk8r]] 00:52, 4 March 2007 (UTC)~~

~~It's never mentioned. She looks about 10 to me. [[User:Harley Quinn hyenaholic|Harley Quinn hyenaholic]] 21:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC)~~

~~Red Puckett is not a teenager. She's actually 8 or 9 years old, but she sounds older than that, because of Anne Hathaway's normal voice pitch. --[[User:PJ Pete|PJ Pete]]~~

~~==Plot==~~

~~We need somebody with more time than me to put in the plot of Hoodwinked. [[User:Harley Quinn hyenaholic|Harley Quinn hyenaholic]] 21:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC)~~

~~- I have overhauled the plot summary on the main page. It solves the "too long" problem. [[User:Jason Keyes|Jason Keyes]] 15:56, 25 September 2007 (UTC)~~

~~== put spoiler warnings ==~~

~~== Goof removal ==~~

I removed the goof where it says about the basket's position on Red's and the wolf's story, because this is intentional as they made it this way, because the characters tell their own version of the story, and as the Wolf remembered it, the basket was lying that way.

~~== Move to Hoodwinked! ==~~

I think this page should be moved to [[Hoodwinked!]] because in the movie, that's how the title reads. The IMDB page also has it with the exclamation mark. Apparently the DVD cover does ''not'', so let's talk about which it should be.

~~== Title ==~~

~~The article name should be Hoodwinked!, it needs the exclamation point. [[User:GlassDesk|GlassDesk]] 02:28, 1 December 2007 (UTC)~~

~~== Alternative title / dead reference link to IMDB ==~~

Reference 1 (about working title for the film) is a dead link to IMDB. IMDB does have the information in question, but I don't know to fix the template producing the link.--[[User:Noe|Noe]] ([[User talk:Noe|talk]]) 19:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

~~== Question ==~~

Are all those red links, in the Crew section, ''really'' necessary? --[[User:ThinkBlue|'''  ThinkBlue ''']] [[User_talk:ThinkBlue|(Hit]] [[User:ThinkBlue/Autograph book|'''BLUE''')]] 00:32, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

~~== Why are there changes? ==~~

Why are there changes in the film compared to the Brothers Grimm version? ò_ó —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.143.54.211|86.143.54.211]] ([[User talk:86.143.54.211|talk]]) 18:17, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Are you some kind of retard? —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/121.45.92.34|121.45.92.34]] ([[User talk:121.45.92.34|talk]]) 09:18, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

~~== The Wolf and Twitchy ==~~

I think it should be menchine that Patrick Warburton's character The Wolf resembles his character Kronk in The Emperor's New Groove in which he talks to a squirrel. It should noted that in The Emperor's New Groove the squirrel doesn't actualy talk but Kronk "speaks squirrel". [[User:Prince Bee|Prince Bee]] ([[User talk:Prince Bee|talk]]) 06:36, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

~~== Not 'The next day' ==~~

~~At the end of the wikipedia story of the movie, the page says 'The next day, Flippers tells Red...'~~

I contend that it is NOT the next day because how could Kurt/Curt the Woodsman get into the yodeling group overnight? I think it is sometime shortly in the future and am requesting that we change this to reflect the truth.

~~[[User:Sergeantjoe|Sergeantjoe]] ([[User talk:Sergeantjoe|talk]]) 16:56, 16 October 2008 (UTC)~~

~~== The Usual Suspects ==~~

Hey, it says "it borrows from the films Rashomon and '''The Usual Suspects'''" I was just wondering where exactly it borrows from "The Usual Suspects?" [[User:Jinxparkour|Jinxparkour]] ([[User talk:Jinxparkour|talk]]) 17:45, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

The idea of everyone thinking a character is an innocent idiot but is actually the criminal mastermind? —Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.87.70.209|24.87.70.209]] ([[User talk:24.87.70.209|talk]]) 02:50, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

~~== [[Todd Edwards]] ==~~

~~Is this the same [[Todd Edwards]] that sang [[Face to Face (Daft Punk song)]]? --[[User:Nerd42|Nerd42]] ([[User talk:Nerd42|talk]]) 21:44, 20 March 2010 (UTC)~~

~~== Hayden Panetierre info ==~~

Just wondering why there's any mention at all of Hayden Panetierre in the cast list as she's the voice for the sequel which has not been released as of Aug '10. It clearly shows Hayden as the voice in the sequel's article (as well as Wayne Knight replacing Jim Belushi). I'm planning on removing it but wanted to see if anyone voiced a serious complaint before I did so. [[User:Bdevoe|Bdevoe]] ([[User talk:Bdevoe|talk]]) 22:43, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

~~== Release Date ==~~

This film was first released in Los Angeles, California on December 16th 2005 in order to be eligible for 2005 award consideration. It is officially considered a 2005 film and should be referred to as such on Wikipedia.--[[User:Jpcase|Jpcase]] ([[User talk:Jpcase|talk]]) 19:17, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

:We need to find a reliable source to verify that type of information. [[Darth]] [[User:Sjones23|Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 19:55, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

~~:: How about either of these?~~

~~:::http://movies.about.com/od/awards/a/animate111705.htm~~

~~:::http://blog.moviefone.com/2005/11/18/oscar-shortlist-for-animated-feature-were-rabbit-dead-bride-an/ --[[User:Jpcase|Jpcase]] ([[User talk:Jpcase|talk]]) 22:47, 21 June 2011 (UTC)~~

::::Thanks for digging these out. About.com isn't allowed as a reference source. (I'm unclear why myself.) Cinematical, the Moviefone blog, is OK (it's not a personal blog, which is generally disallowed), but it's dated Nov. 18, 2005. It can't verify something that happened on Dec. 16, 2005, since it hadn't happened yet.

~~::::Are there any Los Angeles movie reviews for the Dec. 16 release? That would pretty much nail it down.--[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]] ([[User talk:Tenebrae|talk]]) 00:32, 22 June 2011 (UTC)~~

:::::Here you go. http://articles.latimes.com/2006/jan/14/entertainment/et-hoodcapsule14 The review is dated January, 14 2006, but the Editor's note references the December 16th release.--[[User:Jpcase|Jpcase]] ([[User talk:Jpcase|talk]]) 20:42, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

~~::::::Perfect! You wanna do the honors? --[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]] ([[User talk:Tenebrae|talk]]) 22:39, 22 June 2011 (UTC)~~

~~== Nothing wrong here ==~~

I have read this article and found it to be informational and it gave me an objective view so as I could decide whether I wanted to review this movie. Sounds like just a bunch of petty bickering about non-issues. — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.218.24.95|173.218.24.95]] ([[User talk:173.218.24.95|talk]]) 22:46, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

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:::Well you've got conflicting sources, so I would just state the length of the production without the comparison to Hollywood timetables. [[User:Betty Logan|Betty Logan]] ([[User talk:Betty Logan|talk]]) 18:57, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

::::Thanks for the advice!--[[User:Jpcase|Jpcase]] ([[User talk:Jpcase|talk]]) 19:53, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

== Who's Harvey? ==

From the Sally Struther section : "'Why do you need me? Sally did a great job.' I didn't want to say 'because Harvey made us.'".

And from one of the linked interviews: "As for Anne Hathaway, have you SEEN her career lately? She has skyrocketed. It’s clear to me that her involvement in the first film was a nice favor for Harvey..."

[[User:Mannafredo|Mannafredo]] ([[User talk:Mannafredo|talk]]) 08:10, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

:Thanks for taking care of that. --[[User:Jpcase|Jpcase]] ([[User talk:Jpcase|talk]]) 14:07, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

::I decided to delink Harvey in the quote and instead mentioned and linked him and his brother in the main body of the article. --[[User:Jpcase|Jpcase]] ([[User talk:Jpcase|talk]]) 14:12, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

== Rankin/Bass Image ==

I feel that an image from a [[Rankin/Bass]] production could be beneficial for this page to show the visual style that ''Hoodwinked!'' attempted to emulate. I am not sure though, whether this would fall under fair use or not. Even if it does, I have no idea how to fill out the necessary form. If another editor is willing to take the time to do this, I feel that it could be a great addition to the article. --[[User:Jpcase|Jpcase]] ([[User talk:Jpcase|talk]]) 01:45, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

== Cinema Management Group ==

In this recent edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hoodwinked!&diff=next&oldid=698953071], someone added [[Cinema Management Group]] as one of the film's distributors. Per these webpages [http://www.cinemamanagementgroup.com/press/noeltner-unveils-new-sales-outfit-cmg-first-film-hoodwinked/] [http://www.cinemamanagementgroup.com/company/] it does seem that this company had some sort of involvement with ''Hoodwinked!'', although I'm not entirely clear on the details. I don't have the time to look into this, but if anyone else knows or can find out more information, please share it here! :) It seems to me as though CMG was probably a middle-man of some sort that connected ''Hoodwinked!'' with the Weinstein Company, and so at least until more is known, I don't think that it ought to be mentioned as a distributor in the infobox. --[[User:Jpcase|Jpcase]] ([[User talk:Jpcase|talk]]) 23:16, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

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== Co-directors in the infobox ==

If I recall, the standard convention is to list the main directors in the infobox. Co-directors are assistants to thr director; they technically did not direct the film. I know there has been some discussions before about this, but I'm thinking about getting some ideas about what should be done with the co-directors in the infobox rather than cause an edit war. Thoughts? [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 22:55, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

:DGA is pretty picky about the director credit and co-director isn't ''the'' director, just a high-level assistant. We should list the DGA credited director(s) only in the infobox director credit as that attribute is for ''the'' director, not the assistants. IMDb usually gets this right as a check. Animation sometimes is permitted two directors with the director credit and DGA also permits established teams, but that's about it. [[User:Geraldo Perez|Geraldo Perez]] ([[User talk:Geraldo Perez|talk]]) 23:16, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

== Move Page to Hoodwinked ==

The official movie poster uses "Hoodwinked" in the billing block (see archived "Move Page" topic for [[Talk:Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3/Archive 1]]). Intro should read

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|text='''Hoodwinked''' (titled onscreen as '''Hoodwinked!''') is a 2005...

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like the "[[Iron Man 3]]" article, and all title usage within the article should exclude the exclamation mark. [[User:User9454|User9454]] ([[User talk:User9454|talk]]) 19:48, 10 May 2023 (UTC)