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Line 873: {{bcc|Jonathan_A_Jones}}Is it proper [[WP:DUE]] to quote mine from only two sources to include in the lead 4 occurences of forms of the word "denial," and over-ride the numerous other sources discussed in the Skeptic-Denial discussion section above? This article is about a climate scientist. The two sources are written by Riley Dunlap and Aaron McCright, Professors of Sociology; and Brian Petersen, Planning and Recreation, Diana Stuart, Sustainable Communities Program, and Ryan Gunderson, Department of Sociology and Gerontology. Sociologists, Not climate scientists. IMO, the terminology used by the American Meteorological Society[https://books.google.com/books?id=aIo8uwEACAAJ&dq=the+thinking+person%27s+guide+to+climate+change&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjstt_71NroAhUQT98KHa6mChgQ6AEwAHoECAIQAQ] (page 24) is more authoritative here, and the current wording over-emphasizes coverage in only two (sociology) sources. -- [[User:Yae4|Yae4]] ([[User talk:Yae4|talk]]) 15:49, 21 April 2020 (UTC) :They're topic area experts, climate change denial is a subject for sociology and Curry has increasingly turned away from climatological research to contrarianism. As these sources explicitly discuss. We know you like other wording, the book you're trying to link isn't "terminology used by the American Meteorological Society", it's Robert Henson's usage in a layperson's guide originally published by Penguin as "The Rough Guide to Climate Change", updated and published by the AMS. There's no preview available to me, so you'll need to quote where it refers specifically to Judith Curry, so that we don't have [[WP:SYN|synthesis]]. . . [[User:Dave souza|dave souza]], [[User talk:Dave souza|talk]] 16:48, 21 April 2020 (UTC) ::Dave, you say "Curry has increasingly turned away from climatological research to contrarianism," which you reference to a work by two sociologists, who you identify as "topic area experts, climate change denial is a subject for sociology." That may be, but I just reviewed the PDF supplied at ref. #3: it doesn't mention Curry at all, which would seem to fatally weaken the case for using it. [[WP:SYNTHESIS]]? Comment, please? ::It's noteworthy that [[Robert Brulle]], the junior author/editor of the compendium cited at #3, is identified here at WP as advocating "aggressive political action to address global warming." Riley Dunlap, the senior author, describes himself as an "Environmental Sociologist" and teaches at Oklahoma State University (in my old hometown). As you say, the second Neo-skep source, the "Human Ecology Review" pub, isn't online, so it's hard to judge its credibility. But its subtitle, "Ideological Denialism Misdiagnoses Climate Change and Limits Effective Action" certainly sounds like activist political language to me. So we must consider [[WP:UNDUE WEIGHT]] for these apparently political claims, to use in a biography of a living person. --[[User:Tillman|Pete Tillman]] ([[User talk:Tillman|talk]]) 04:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC) == Climate models for lawyers, and layman == | |||