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::I know you are busy, [[User:Christian140|Christian140]], but if you could add this to the article, even without expansion, it would be quite helpful. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]&#124;[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 06:23, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

*'''Keep the first half''' Reliably sourced and accurate to said source. For brevity and weight purposes I say cut the direct quotation. The sentence beginning ''In a New York Times editorial'' is Americocentric and off-topic, since this is English Wikipedia, not American Wikipedia, and this topic is not specifically American. [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 09:59, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

*'''Keep revision''' - per {{u|Scolaire}} in threaded discussion. [[User:Jr8825|<spanfont styleface="font-family:Trebuchet MS;" color:="#8B0000;">Jr8825</spanfont>]] • [[User Talk:Jr8825|<spanfont styleface="font-family:Trebuchet MS;" color:="#4682B4;">Talk</spanfont>]] 00:56, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

*''''Keep revision''' below, which seems much more concise (passing [[WP:UNDUE]], neutral, and correct than the original above. ---- [[User:Patar knight|Patar knight]] - <sup>[[User talk:Patar knight|chat]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Patar knight|contributions]]</sub> 05:09, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

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::: I would go for the first version myself, but I see no major issues with either. [[User:Spacecowboy420|Spacecowboy420]] ([[User talk:Spacecowboy420|talk]]) 06:08, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

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== Names ==

Any objections to adding 'race nationalism' and 'blood nationalism' terms to the lead? They are used in [https://web.archive.org/web/20130519065927/http://asiasociety.org/korea/south-korea-unloved-republic], for example. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]&#124;[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 11:26, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

:I think, established terms should be used. The author could alter terms only to achieve some variety. From a Google Scholar search, I would not say that these terms seems established. [https://scholar.google.de/scholar?q=%22race+nationalism%22+korea&btnG=&hl=de&as_sdt=0%2C5 race], [https://scholar.google.de/scholar?q=%22blood+nationalism%22+korea&btnG=&hl=de&as_sdt=0%2C5 blood] compared to [https://scholar.google.de/scholar?q=%22ethnic+nationalism%22+korea&btnG=&hl=de&as_sdt=0%2C5 ethnic], [https://scholar.google.de/scholar?q=%22racial+nationalism%22+korea&btnG=&hl=de&as_sdt=0%2C5 racial]. The term "blood nationalism" appears a few times, though, often regarding Japan and China. Same goes for the term "pure-blood nationalism" which seems to be more established, though. --[[User:Christian140|Christian140]] ([[User talk:Christian140|talk]]) 20:30, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

== Koreans outside the Koreas ==

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There are examples such as Yuji Hosaka ([[:ko:호사카 유지]]), a history and political scientist who was born in Japan and whose parents are Japanese, but who was naturalized in South Korea and is now accepted as a "minjok" in South Korea. He even claims that South Korea's anti-Japanese sentiment has nothing to do with racism. Robert Kelly is a [https://namu.wiki/w/%EB%A1%9C%EB%B2%84%ED%8A%B8%20%EC%BC%88%EB%A6%AC member of the U.S. Republican Party] and judges Korea from an American perspective. B.R. Myers also referred to him as an [https://www.hani.co.kr/arti/culture/book/508876.html American conservative]. In particular, Robert Kelly is a biased white scholar who has been controversial over racism for his remarks on [https://m.idsn.co.kr/news/view/179525580289020 dog meat]. He enjoys a lot of benefits in South Korea from his white privileges. (All the external links I presented are in Korean.) [[User:Mureungdowon|Mureungdowon]] ([[User talk:Mureungdowon|talk]]) 21:24, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

:This article should just be removed. In fact, the only people who makes edits are either foreigners who enjoy every single woegookin privileges like Robert Kelly & are angry at us because they were disserviced once, people who failed in Japan and are now sour towards us because their alternative is Korea, or people from 4chan who have an agenda against "Asian weebs".

:+ We don't even do the dumb Hanminjok identity thing anymore except for old people (from both left and right wings) who have never met a foreigner in their lives or stepped out of the country.

:Why keep it? [[User:Thickmelon|Thickmelon]] ([[User talk:Thickmelon|talk]]) 06:36, 19 November 2023 (UTC)