Talk:Korean influence on Japanese culture: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

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{{Old AfD multi | date = 4 October 2014 | result = '''No consensus''' | page = Korean influence on Japanese culture}}

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== Kugyol and katakana ==

Okay, our article on [[Gugyeol]] explicitly states that that system was first developed in Korea ''after'' katakana developed in Japan. I know [[WP:NOTSOURCE|other Wikipedia articles are not supposed to take priority over external reliable sources]], but there are a few complications here. First, [http://books.google.co.jp/books?hl=ja&id=H4CsWDEi52IC&q=katakana#v=snippet&q=katakana&f=false the source] cited [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Korean_influence_on_Japanese_culture&type=revision&diff=660479549&oldid=656561294] was not written by Sohn but by [https://sllc.umd.edu/user/ramsey Ramsey]. Second, Ramsey doesn't go into much detail on what the relationship between the two was, making it a bit unclear what he's talking about when he says "kugyol"; I have no choice but to check our article on the subject, and our readers will do the same. If the [[Gugyeol]] article is chronologically confused on when the system developed, then ''that'' article needs to be tweaked in accordance with reliable sources before we claim [[katakana]] (which developed in the ninth century) before we go around implying that it was based on a system that "first came into use in the early [[Goryeo]] dynasty". Third, what Ramsey ''actually'' says in his article is that the linguistic/cultural tides started turning in the "late traditional period" and already in the 16th century Korean was taking more influence from Japanese than vice versa, and today the Japanese language has a huge influence on everyday Korean. This is not what the creators of this article want to admit, and it's not what Ramsey was being inaccurately quoted as saying. [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 16:14, 3 May 2015 (UTC)