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:::::::::Please, provide a policy based reason to ignore the majority of RS to put a contested claim in wikivoice in the lead. [[User:Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist|Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ]] ([[User talk:Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist|talk]]) 03:00, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

::::::::::We are not going by how pretty much the entire press in "the country in question" treats various Russia-related topics. That the sources are British is ''not'' an argument in their favor. The UK in general[https://www.thepinknews.com/2022/01/25/council-of-europe-uk-lgbt-trans-rights-russ-apoland/] and the UK media have an abysmal reputation regarding LBGT+ issues, commented on by many observers and experts, so their media should be treated with the same caution we treat Russian newspapers as sources for the LGBT+ rights situation in Russia. There are many sources showing how this anti-trans group is entirely focused on anti-trans activism. There are many sources describing it as a hate group and anti-trans group. The radicalization and virulent transphobia of British media doesn't change that. The only thing it changes is the reliability of British media, especially regarding LGBT+ issues, in the same way that we treat Russian media with a fair degree of skepticism, especially regarding contentious topics. --[[User:Amanda A. Brant|Amanda A. Brant]] ([[User talk:Amanda A. Brant|talk]]) 12:21, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

:::::::::::I agree with Amanda here. The Council of Europe has long held the UK’s institutional transphobia as being on par with that of Poland, Hungary, and Turkey. We would not uncritically trust Hungarian news sources to determine our description of gensex topics, we shouldn’t be doing so here either. [[User:Snokalok|Snokalok]] ([[User talk:Snokalok|talk]]) 12:53, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Is there now agreement to change the wording, as proposed in my post of 19:54, 24 June 2024 above? [[User:Sweet6970|Sweet6970]] ([[User talk:Sweet6970|talk]]) 10:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC)