Talk:Languages constructed by Tolkien: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

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:::Other than his Middle-earth languages Tolkien is known to have ''learned'' the 'Animalic' word substitution cypher created by his cousins, contributed to the 'Nevbosh' sound substitution cypher, and developed the Naffarin language... which could be considered an early draft of 'Elfish / Qenya / Quenya'. That's really only one 'other' constructed language, which is already covered in a few different articles. The Elvish seen in the Father Xmas letters was entirely drawn from Middle-earth... because Tolkien intended Middle-earth to '''be''' our Earth.

:::On the whole 'Arda' bit... well, if we want to get technical, Eru supposedly spoke the word 'Ea' outside of time to bring the universe into existence by naming it so. Ergo, it'd have to be 'Languages of Ea' rather than 'Languages of Arda' to incorporate everything. Unless of course we take communication in the Timeless Halls to be an actual 'language'... then we've got to expand it beyond the bounds of Ea. Or we could just use 'Middle-earth' like Tolkien and every other researcher looking for a good collective term for the setting. --[[Special:Contributions/12.42.51.27|12.42.51.27]] ([[User talk:12.42.51.27|talk]]) 12:09, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== forces of change ==

: ''For example, the leader of the Grey Elves ([[Elwë Singollo]]) ardently hatd the house of Fëanor for the [[Kinslaying]] of [[Alqualondë]], and forbade their tongue to be spoken in his domain. One may deduce from this that Sindarin may well have changed further over the years due to this. Naturally, Noldorin itself was changed even more as a result of the folly and pride of its speakers.''

Is there any support for the last sentence?

Does the middle sentence mean that Sindarin would have changed more ''after'' Thingol's decree (why?), or only that Sindarin must have changed markedly before the Noldor returned (else the difference between Sindarin and Exilic Quenya would not be noted)? —[[User:Tamfang|Tamfang]] ([[User talk:Tamfang|talk]]) 05:04, 12 January 2011 (UTC)