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:::::::::can you please drop it? we both could have acted better. can we please move on and try to find a compromise? [[User:Svnpenn|Svnpenn]] ([[User talk:Svnpenn|talk]]) 11:33, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

::::::We generally strike not erase own comments per [[WP:REDACT]], and certainly shouldn't be removing other editors' replies per [[WP:OTHERSCOMMENTS]]. [[User:VQuakr|VQuakr]] ([[User talk:VQuakr|talk]]) 06:05, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

::{{tq|we could change the key to "open license" and/or "open access"}}

::If "key" refers to the parameters of the infobox template that render fields in the generated infobox, this would involve modifying the template to add these new fields. When we design infoboxes, we try to keep them [[Help:Infobox|concise]]. I think these proposed new fields are unnecessary for the following reasons:

::*[[Open access]] is already represented by the <code>url-access=subscription</code> parameter of the reference to the standard, which is rendered as a red lock with the "Paid subscription required" tooltip text. This has been a common feature of many Wikipedia articles for many years.

::*[[Open license]] = [[free license]] which is the typical license type of a [[free format]], so it's redundant as we already have a "free format" field in the infobox. It is with licenses that the terms "open" and "free" cause the most confusion. In other related expressions (such as standard, format, software, work, etc.) these are broadly understood as "published and available for the public to see and study in detail" and "usable without any fees" respectively, and "fee" generally refers to those applied to [[digital distribution]] and [[broadcasting]], which generally result in much greater costs over time than the initial access fee to the text of the standard.

::This template is important to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Software|WikiProject Software]] and any attempts to change it should be considered carefully. {{u|Avoinlähde}} tried to {{diff|Template:Infobox file format|1079063774|1060420842|change it}} while inserting the statement I questioned in [[Talk:Open file format]] and the template changes were reverted because they broke many articles. --[[User:Ftrebien|Fernando Trebien]] ([[User talk:Ftrebien|talk]]) 13:48, 6 March 2024 (UTC)