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• Could an uninvolved admin please PULL the blurb on the Israeli airstrike that killed the Hezbollah leader. The article has been orange tagged for NPOV which is an automatic pull until the tag/issues are resolved. Thanks. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:37, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Nearly an hour later, still up there. I know it's Saturday most places still but come on folks. Pinging @Sandstein, the admin who posted the blurb. I seriously doubt pulling a blurb b/c another editor orange-tagged it, would count as an "involved" action re any sanction/dispute stuff, correct me if wrong. (If one edits the most visible page on the project, I really hope one would have its talk and subpages watchlisted.) --Slowking Man (talk) 17:29, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Looks like the tag was just removed within the last ten minutes or so. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:30, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Articles about current events and controversial topics are continuously edited and may be tagged by anyone. That does not require pulling their blurb from the main page. Sandstein 17:51, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  In fairness this wasn't tagged when you posted it. But there is a very strong consensus supported by years of precedent that we do not promote orange tagged articles on the main page. NPOV tags, assuming they aren't frivolous and swiftly removed, are a showstopper at ITN. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:02, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Yes, and a tagged article will normally lack consensus to post. But once posted, normal editing processes apply. Otherwise anyone could remove an article from the main page by applying a tag. Sandstein 18:26, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  If there is a true legitimate NPOV problem that is identified post-posting that had been present at the time it was posted, as identified on the talk page, it is reasonable to pull the blurb. But if we're talking a drive-by POV tag posting without any commentary of what's the problem, that's useless tagging and it should be removed without removing the ITN blurb. Additionally, if material is added after the posting that swings the POV-ness of the article, that content should probably be removed or reverted. Masem (t) 18:40, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Right, that sounds reasonable. I don't touch stuff in that topic area with an 11-and-a-half foot pole, just being a messenger for main page talk stuff. Slowking Man (talk) 19:25, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  @Ad Orientem@Masem@Sandstein@Slowking Man. The problem is still there. I just posted about it at Wikipedia talk:Main Page/Errors#2024 Hezbollah headquarters strike. But ideally, we should talk about it at Talk:2024_Hezbollah_headquarters_strike#WP:V_and_NPOV_violation_in_the_background_again (which in turn refers to a section higher above where the NPOV and WP:V concerns were raised first).VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 22:50, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

What happened to the 45th Chess Olympiad blurb on "In the news"? I do not think it was the oldest one when it was removed. 73.189.5.104 (talk) 00:41, 29 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I don't believe there is a hard-and-fast rule that "entries always leave ITN in strict chronological FIFO order" though I could always be mistaken. WP:ITN mentions things like keeping the amount of white space on the main page relatively balanced. (The main page layout formatting is an abandon all hope ye who enter here sort of affair. Keeping it relatively tidy involves a good bit of just trial-and-error to my understanding.) WT:ITN might be able to go into more detail. Slowking Man (talk) 02:32, 29 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

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First of all: Welcome! This page is for discussing the organization and layout of the main page. It isn't for general questions or for encyclopedic content. Yes, I know that, but nobody tells me WHERE to find the place for questions of encyclopedic content. I know as well, that I can ask on the debate page of the specific article (in this case this one, but nobody's looking there because that's not exactly a very much-frequented article. It would be nice if you could add something like If you have a general question or a question of encyclopedic content please go here.

So, I was wondering if anyone is an expert in Greek football. There are a lot of football clubs that are actually departments of big sports clubs (and the football department having a different name than the original club), and it is always hard to impossible to find information on the history of the names of those departments. Now I stumbled over the football club PAE Aris (Aris FC), which is part of the sports club AS Aris. So far, so good. Now my question: Since I'm working on a football archive I'd like to know since when the football department of AS Aris is called "PAE Aris". The club itself was founded in 1914 as "PS Aris" as a pure football team, with the "P" standing for "football". The next years, many other sports departments (e. g. basketball) evolved, so in 1926 PS Aris renamed to "AS Aris" with the "A" standing for "athletic" to reflect that there are many sports played in that club. Today, the football department is called "PAE Aris" while the sports club itself is still officially named AS Aris. I don't find any information about since when "PAE Aris" is used. I doubt that the club's football team is called that way since 1926.

So my question is: When did the name of the football department of AS Aris change to "PAE Aris"? It would be nice if someone could help me out!--31.16.72.92 (talk) 22:14, 4 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

We do have something like what you suggest at the top of this page, underneath the text that you copied to here.("For questions about using and contributing to Wikipedia") In your case I would suggest the Help Desk. 331dot (talk) 22:16, 4 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

For specific questions like this head along to Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment. Stephen 22:19, 4 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

And also see the football project too. Lugnuts ^{Precious bodily fluids} 08:56, 5 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

For help in general to find where might be best to ask questions, first check the talk page of the article on the subject you're asking about; it might be well-trafficked and therefore a good forum. If not, there should be one or more banners for WikiProjects, which are larger projects grouping articles in a certain field; these will have general talk pages for the project as a whole (so, if I'm looking at a film but the film's article is quiet and little-read, I can ask about it at the talk page of WP:FILM). Failing that, if you have a quiet project too, you can try directly asking people who have edited the article or similar articles on their talk pages—maybe I can't find information about Manchester City WFC, but I see that someone has edited a lot of articles on the men's club, so I can ask them if they know what I need to know. GRAPPLE ^X 09:37, 5 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Perhaps a dumb question but...—Arpose (talk) 00:15, 7 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

No question is truly dumb, although it may help if we knew what your question was. If you're implying "Why aren't the Nobel prize winners on the main page?", they are currently being discussed at WP:ITN/C. Hie thee hence to yon page.--WaltCip (talk) 01:03, 7 October 2016 (UTC)Reply