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Line 299: =Horn of Africa in 1420 Map= [[File:Map of Ethiopia circa 1420.png|thumb|Map of Ethiopia circa 1420]] Hello [[User:EthiopianHabesha|EthiopianHabesha]], the map is not accurate and also not based on scholarly work, but please do show your evidence. -[[User:AlaskaLava|AlaskaLava]], 20 January 2017 :The map was self-created by a user (Ingoman) and references no sources whatsoever. Please, [[User:EthiopianHabesha]], do not readd it. [[User:Buckshot06|Buckshot06]] [[User_talk:Buckshot06|(talk)]] 22:07, 20 January 2017 (UTC) ::@[[User:AlaskaLava|AlaskaLava]], [[User:Buckshot06|Buckshot06]], did check the dates and boundary with mainly Richard Pankhurst Book and other books like the Futuh Al-Habash written by Arab chroniclers of Gragn Mohamed. It would have been helpful if specific issues in the map are pointed out. Anyways, since the importance of the map is to support Oromos existence in the Horn of Africa and in modern day Bale province then let me give some sources supporting that claim. Please see [https://books.google.com.et/books?id=zpYBD3bzW1wC&q=Genale+river#v=snippet&q=%22south%20or%20east%20of%20Bali%22&f=false][https://books.google.com.et/books?id=zpYBD3bzW1wC&q=Genale+river#v=snippet&q=Bali%20%22Southwards%20to%20the%20Ganale%22%20Sidama&f=false][https://books.google.com.et/books?id=cu-qCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA112&dq=%22between+the+twelfth+and+fifteenth+centuries,+the+Oromo+formed+the+Berentu+and+Borana+federations%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi6057WytPRAhVFIMAKHR95CSgQ6AEIGjAA#v=onepage&q=%22between%20the%20twelfth%20and%20fifteenth%20centuries%2C%20the%20Oromo%20formed%20the%20Berentu%20and%20Borana%20federations%22&f=false][https://www.google.com.et/search?site=&source=hp&q=%22Between+the+twelfth+and+%EF%AC%81fteenth+centuries+they+were+already+organised+into+the+Berentu+and+Borana+federations%22&oq=%22Between+the+twelfth+and+%EF%AC%81fteenth+centuries+they+were+already+organised+into+the+Berentu+and+Borana+federations%22&gs_l=hp.3...2206.5419.0.5717.3.3.0.0.0.0.200.200.2-1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.hp..2.0.0.Gj4T-xP58zA][https://www.google.com.et/search?q=However%2C+those+who+so+identify+themselves+view+their+homeland+as+being+the+southern+highlands+of+present-day+Ethiopia&oq=However%2C+those+who+so+identify+themselves+view+their+homeland+as+being+the+southern+highlands+of+present-day+Ethiopia&gs_l=serp.3...54235.54235.0.55411.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..1.0.0.vKOTBXV6kUw][https://books.google.com.et/books?id=Glti5O1XMJ0C&pg=PA43&dq=%22fifteenth+century,+the+Oromo%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiuh_LcydPRAhULIsAKHWOiBNEQ6AEIGjAA#v=onepage&q=%22fifteenth%20century%2C%20the%20Oromo%22&f=false]. If there are other issues in the map please let me know. — [[User:EthiopianHabesha|EthiopianHabesha]] ([[User talk:EthiopianHabesha|talk]]) 15:06, 21 January 2017 (UTC) {{od}} @EthiopianHabesha: The map AlaskaLava and Buckshot06 removed asserts 1420 "Oromo Confederation" boundaries, as well as many other details that none of your sources verify. Pankhurst book that you mention does not support this map, it raises questions. On page 137, for example, second last para, Pankhurst states that ''Gallas'' (Oromo) were south or "east" of Bale, that too "probably" and c. 1460. The map shows them south and "southwest" of Bale with misleading certainty. What is it in these sources that leads you to believe that the map verifies? Please note that a historic map by someone, say created between 14th and 20th century, one we can verify in an externally published source can be included, but as Buckshot06 explains above, a self-created map by a wiki user is OR unless we can verify it. [[User:Ms Sarah Welch|Ms Sarah Welch]] ([[User talk:Ms Sarah Welch|talk]]) 20:15, 21 January 2017 (UTC) | |||