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Line 380: ::::Here's a thought. There are lots of sources that say. "There's American style; it goes like this. There's British style; it goes like that," clearly showing that they're talking about two different systems (by putting them in different paragraphs, etc.). Do you have one that says, "There's British style; it goes like this. There's logical style; it goes like that" while clearly showing that they're two different things and not the same thing that works in more than one way? [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 20:52, 4 September 2015 (UTC) :::::Remember over on another page, you tried the same bogus ''ad hominem'' tactic, and it made you look silly, because you [[straw man|farcically misrepresented]] my position in that earlier debate, and you come across as if you can't differentiate between two arguments about different things? Oh, wait, that seems to directly mirror what's going on in all of these debates; you simply aren't rationally parsing them. How about that? (Don't like this tone? Stop using it with me.) Direct comparison source: {{em|Of course}} we have a source that does that, the ''Guardian'' article already cited. But of course that article doesn't exist, or doesn't say what it says, as long as you don't want it to.</p><p>It wouldn't matter anyway. If we have RS that say "cars do not have truck beds" and other RS that say "pick-up trucks are like cars, but have truck beds", it doesn't matter how many sources you can find that, for whatever convenience reason they may have, lump trucks in with cars (e.g. because they're all about water vehicles and mention land vehicles in passing, as "cars", only to distinguish them from water vehicles). The fact that cars are distinguishable in reliable sources, per specific features of them, cannot be magically erased. It's perfectly fine to say that some sources lump trucks in with cars; it's not okay to say in WP's voice that trucks and cars are identical, that "car" and "truck" are two names for exactly the same thing, and deny any mention of their distinction. That's precisely what you're trying to do. We also don't need any direct-comparison sources, since the style guides publish definitions, and they're clearly distinguishable. I don't need a source that directly compares a pool ball and 1/8 ounce of cocaine, side by side, to write about how the word "[[8-ball (disambiguation)|8-ball]]" has more than one meaning, and to write about those meanings separately, nor to prevent you from trying to change pool articles to say that the games are played with drug baggies, not balls. That's also exactly what you're trying to do here. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''' ☺]] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 02:01, 5 September 2015 (UTC) ::::::''What'' ad hominem attack? Pointing out that you've read too much into things before? You've said far worse and far less substantiated things about me. ::::::SmC, you think the sources are wrong. You're allowed to have an opinion, but you need to stop pretending that I'm doing something wrong by preferring sourced material to whatever conclusions you've drawn on your own. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 02:24, 5 September 2015 (UTC) | |||