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==Huge overlap between [[Salmonella]] page and [[Salmonellosis]] page==

This appears to be a pretty big issue - I think in future it would be good to move all info on symptoms and cases of outbreaks to the [[salmonellosis]] page and have this page reflect the lifestyle of the bacteria more. Information on the molecular mechanisms of infection may be better suited to this page, with a link on the salmonellosis page to this one for those who are interested. Currently it seems as though much of the content on the two pages is a cut-and-paste between the two.

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:: As I recall, somebody made the discovery that chickens grow larger if fed lots of [[antibiotic]]s. This had the unfortunate effect that some strains of salmonella became [[antibiotic resistance|resistant]], and these more harmful strains became [[endemic (epidemiology)|endemic]].

:: Ironically, [[food poisoning]] from salmonella is due to modern food preparation methods. It used to be that most people were resistant to salmonella, especially those living in [[poverty]] &mdash; less sanitary preparation results in more bacteria being ingested. The human [[immune system]] is well equipped to deal with regular infection by a particular organism, but now that salmonella is rarely found in food, it causes severe reactions when encountered. Undercooked chicken and eggs are not harmful if eaten regularly. --[[User:Eequor|[[User:Eequor|<fontspan sizestyle="+1font-size:large;">&#5339;&#5505;</fontspan>]]<fontspan id="venus">[[Image:Venus symbol (blue).gif|&#9792;]]</fontspan>[{{SERVER}}{{localurl:User talk:Eequor}} <fontspan sizestyle="+1font-size:large;">&#5200;</fontspan>]]] 07:02, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

:::Actually (according to some Dietary groups, like primal diet group) it seem that salmonella grows especially in food AFTER it has been cooked and then left for the night, and not eaten straight away. So it might be that more and more people changed their habits in the 20th century. For example in Italy people use to eat raw eggs often, just drinking them. That had a special expression, it was called "sucking eggs". The current generation do it very very rarely. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:157.138.135.18|157.138.135.18]] ([[User talk:157.138.135.18|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/157.138.135.18|contribs]]) 16:50, 1 February 2005 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

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::I still think the person who actually discovered salmonella can be disputed. Some sources, like the USDA link on the article page, say Salmon discovered it while others say Smith discovered it. I don't think there can be one concrete answer for the discovery of salmonella. [[User:THE evil fluffyface|THE evil fluffyface]] ([[User talk:THE evil fluffyface|talk]]) 19:42, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Well, I think the most logical explanation for the name would have to be Daniel's surname. It has nothing to do with salmons... unless you mean eating raw fish and then getting salmonella off it. I highly doubt that would be why they call it what they do. <b>[[User:Lady Galaxy|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#5be4f8;">Lady</fontspan>]]'''<fontspan colorstyle="color:#fe2c96;">★</fontspan>'''[[User talk:Lady Galaxy|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#ba6afd;">Galaxy</fontspan>]]</b> 03:06, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

::::Per the FDA's [http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/a2z-s.html CFSAN] (Food Safety Network) page:

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that just sounds wrong [[Special:Contributions/67.55.11.193|67.55.11.193]] ([[User talk:67.55.11.193|talk]]) 06:02, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

:It is wrong, and was vandalism or ignorance. The bacterium has nothing to do with the fish. Which is the point, since it's not pronounced like the fish. [[User:Sbharris|<fontspan colorstyle="color:blue;">S</fontspan>]][[User:Sbharris|<fontspan colorstyle="color:orange;">B</fontspan>]][[User:Sbharris|H]][[User:Sbharris|arris]] 06:11, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

::and then so but why is silencing the initial L necessarily incorrect? Is there an orthodox way of pronouncing the surname that requires all consonants to be pronounced? Is this akin to the custom of pronouncing the surname "Christ" with the vowel sound in "bit" instead of "bite"?[[User:Trueno Peinado|Trueno Peinado]] ([[User talk:Trueno Peinado|talk]]) 00:58, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

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: Would be good if someone could find a link to scientific literature that addresses this. [[User:Maonao|Maonao]] ([[User talk:Maonao|talk]]) 03:44, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

::2008 article is {{doi|10.1038/nature07067}}. [[User:Artoria2e5|Artoria]][[User talk:Artoria2e5|2e5]] <small style="font-weight:lighter">[[Special:Contributions/Artoria2e5|🌉]]</small> 09:59, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

== Lifespan&nbsp;&mdash; general ==

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== History ==

I don't know why, but about a month ago the brief history of this article was removed by an anonymous IP in a war of vandalism. Although the vandalism was restored, I'm not sure why the background information never was. So I brought it back. Mr. Salmon still has his own article on here, and it's short enough as it is... so I don't think this will hurt. <b>[[User:Lady Galaxy|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#5be4f8;">Lady</fontspan>]]'''<fontspan colorstyle="color:#fe2c96;">★</fontspan>'''[[User talk:Lady Galaxy|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#ba6afd;">Galaxy</fontspan>]]</b> 03:07, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

== Although adequate cooking kills the salmonella bacteria, the poison produced by the living bacterium will remain! ==

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If anyone else is knowledgeable on this aspect of Salmonella, I'd like to see some kind of common sense section here. I realize this is a culinary issue, but it's directly related, and this article is probably where people are going to start looking for this kind of info. It won't change things for those who are in panic mode, but it might give the rest of us the comfort of some safe guidelines in feeding ourselves and our families. I mean, I spent years eating Caesar salads, good ones, without ill effects, but now I'm a little about it without some kind of guidelines to reassure me. Really, it would be a public service. [[User:Zlama|Zlama]] ([[User talk:Zlama|talk]]) 23:24, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

:The new link is at https://web.archive.org/web/20130402063411/http://www.hi-tm.com/Documents/Mayonnaise.pdf. This doesn't look like MEDRS, but it might not need to, considering it's food stuff already set up for HACCP. It starts with FDA requirements for acidity but puts pasteurization on top. Pretty cool. [[User:Artoria2e5|Artoria]][[User talk:Artoria2e5|2e5]] <small style="font-weight:lighter">[[Special:Contributions/Artoria2e5|🌉]]</small> 10:05, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

== Salmonella subterranean ==

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The biggest expansion was in summarizing the diseases caused by ''Salmonella'' - I realize there are separate articles on this, and I have tried to hit only the highlights here: 3 short sentences expanded to 7 long sentences. Regards [[User:IiKkEe|IiKkEe]] ([[User talk:IiKkEe|talk]]) 16:20, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

== New emerging Salmonella strain in Sub-Saharan Africa ==

There's a new emerging ''Salmonella'' strain in Sub-Saharan Africa (SSA) with increased ESBL production and antibiotic resistance. This particular strain only causes bloodstream infections in different SSA communities and acquires a virulence plasmid. I think it is good to update this piece of information. Here is the link to the article: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-11844-z. --[[User:Ntam97|Ntam97]] ([[User talk:Ntam97|talk]]) 02:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)