Talk:Sol Invictus: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

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*{{Disagree}}, Sol Invictus has scope to be expanded and has separate coverage on its own. The lead even says {{tq|that scholars disagree about whether the new deity was a refoundation of the ancient Latin cult of Sol}}. The lead in [[Sol (Roman mythology)]] says {{tq|Only in the late Roman Empire, scholars argued, did solar cult re-appear with the arrival in Rome of the Syrian Sol Invictus, perhaps under the influence of the Mithraic mysteries}}. Both must remain as separate articles. - [[User:Suneye1|<span style="color: orange; font-weight:700; text-shadow: 0 0 10px #fbf306;">SUN EYE 1</span>]] 16:36, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

*{{Disagree}} Why should we delete references to Sol in the [[Roman Republic]]? [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]] ([[User talk:Dimadick|talk]]) 12:14, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

*'''Comment'''. If the two deities are to be treated as one, then it might make more sense to merge Sol Invictus into [[Sol (Roman mythology)]] rather than the reverse, given that ''invictus'' would merely an epithet of the original Sol (though I'm not sure how that would interact with [[WP:Common name]], given how frequently the god is known as Sol Invictus). But I'm not sure that scholars universally treat Sol and Sol Invictus as the same, even now, so long after Hijmans' article in 1996 changed the debate. The most recent source I could find on this issue is ''Time in Roman Religion'' by Gary Forsythe, published in 2012. Its discussion of Sol Invictus (beginning on [https://books.google.com/books?id=hTDku_ZQ0JgC&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&lpg=PP1&pg=PA133#v=onepage&q&f=false page 133]), takes Hijmans' arguments into account but still seems to make a distinction between the relatively unimportant god Sol from Republican times and the more significant Sol Invictus, even though Forsythe treats Sol's growth in importance as beginning with Augustus and the ''invictus'' epithet wasn't attached to Sol until the second century. It's a messy situation, and it seems like something that can and probably should be discussed in one place on Wikipedia, but I don't know the sources well enough to say exactly how. [[User:A. Parrot|A. Parrot]] ([[User talk:A. Parrot|talk]]) 23:11, 24 December 2020 (UTC)