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Gwillhickers is protecting TJ's legacy concerning Hemings. For some reason historians refuse to believe Jefferson was human. Are there any sources that say Jefferson is god? [[User:Cmguy777|Cmguy777]] ([[User talk:Cmguy777|talk]]) 05:51, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

:::'''Wrong guess. All 'Gwillhickers' has done is ask for proof of some of the claims made. POV pushing? Have I ever said TJ 'did not' have an affair, or that he was 'above it all'? No, again, all I have asked is for ''VERIFICATION OF CLAIMS MADE''. -- Schultz claims Jefferson wrote down birth dates of Hemings' children. I asked for at least one example with the source, and what do I get?: A few links with no such birth dates mentioned anywhere. i.e.Zero. I have asked another user, Ebanony, who has claimed that "torture" was used and that this was "undisputed". I have asked, ''several times now'', for a reference and also asked why isn't this in the TJ article if it is so sourced. What did I get in response there? -- Another zero. -- Some of these editors have made a mockery of the TJ article and this discussion. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thomas_Jefferson&oldid=349875977#Alleged_children_by_his_slave_Sally_Hemings At one time] the TJ article had several pages devoted to Hemings. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thomas_Jefferson&oldid=409613733 Just recently] nearly a whole paragraph was crammed into the lede section about Hemings. Also, while a ''controversy'' may justify making mention of the topic, it ''does not'' justify UNDUE WEIGHT, esp since this material is already covered on the Hemings page. Are you gentlemen ''finally'' clear on that? You can wave ''sources'' around all you like, but unless you can use them to back up these claims you are no different than a jackass with a load of books on its back. Now it's time to end this scholarly charade. [[User:Gwillhickers|Gwillhickers]] ([[User talk:Gwillhickers|talk]]) 07:50, 8 February 2011 (UTC)'''

== UnDue Weight to Hemings ==