Talk:Wings of Fire (novel series) - Wikipedia
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I am fully aware that this is too long, and I wrote it. I will try and trim it down, and other people are welcome to help (although this page doesn't get much traffic, and for good reason) Also, I will add citations. I am new here, and just figured out how to cite a book, so please stop bothering me about it. (especially if you're not going to help) K1i2r3i4t5o (talk) 17:58, 19 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
- Who bothered you? Argento Surfer (talk) 18:44, 19 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
- I don't know, they didn't sign their name, and they have removed their comment, so I will give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they realized it wasn't very helpful and rescinded it. Maybe I misinterpreted it, and it was just constructive criticism. If that's the case, I apologize. As I said, I am new, and am editing this page to get some low-stakes practice. Sorry to take up your time. K1i2r3i4t5o (talk) 20:41, 19 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
It's not to long. Queen Shore the SeaWing (talk) 14:39, 19 March 2020 (UTC)I is American English.Reply
And why for good reason? This article SHOULD have the MOST traffic, because WoF is THE BEST
Kookie Cookie Knows What's Best (talk) 00:12, 29 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
WoF IS THE BEST! WingsofFire2028 (talk) 16:47, 28 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
It's not too long. It has three mini series, it should be long. 69.248.65.55 (talk) 15:03, 3 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Whoever wrote the synopsis for the third book, please screen your work more carefully for errors. This content does not match Wikipedia's standards for adequacy. I'm uncreative. (talk) 05:51, 28 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
Whoever it was, looking at their work, I doubt they were a regular user. I'll try and fix the errors, but I don't think it'll be much of a problem. K1i2r3i4t5o (talk) 06:01, 28 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
- If you use the "view history" link at the top of the page (located near the edit button), you can review the contributors. The edit you're talking about came from User:Noodlejack. If you click on the "contribs" link next to an editor's name, you can see what else that editor has contributed. Adding a summary of book 3 is Noodlejack's sole contribution so far. In the future, it would be helpful for you to provide a link explaining Wikipedia standards when you criticize someone's efforts, such as Wikipedia:Basic copyediting. Argento Surfer (talk) 14:03, 28 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
well I'll never contribute again then, Noodlejack 7/8/2018
Yep, thanks, I didn't know that. I'll keep that in mind for the future. I'm uncreative. (talk) 02:19, 29 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
I think the summaries are too long to put in one Wiki page. Here's some (kinda good) complete summary I found of the first book only: https://wingsoffire.fandom.com/wiki/The_Dragonet_Prophecy_(Book)
Maybe we should move the summaries of each book to the books respectively? Also, since the books are a series of novels (quite long), maybe we should look at 'Harry Potter' and copy see how they did it. Of course, this series is not as popular as the Harry Potter series, so we can't go as much in detail (too few sources). What ideas do you people have?
AltoStev Talk 16:09, 8 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
Uh, reading it, and removing information unrelated to the title, like I did for the IceWing/NightWing War. --Queen Shore the SeaWing (talk) 05:15, 6 February 2020 (UTC)I is American English.Reply
I removed the summaries altogether, because of spoilers. --Queen Shore the SeaWing (talk) 06:24, 6 February 2020 (UTC)I is American English.Reply
They reappeared on the page, tho - Dragonlover21 (talk) 17:40, 17 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
I think we should add summaries of all the books and make a separate chapter for summaries, so if people don’t want to look at the summaries because of spoilers, then they can skip it. WingsofFire2028 (talk) 12:47, 29 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Or we can make an article for each book. WingsofFire2028 (talk) 12:48, 29 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
And leave this one for one that is about the whole series. WingsofFire2028 (talk) 12:49, 29 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Can people watch out for typos please as it's quite annoying to have to fix them.
Thanks,RedRussetFox
I fixed some. :3 --Queen Shore the SeaWing (talk) 05:23, 6 February 2020 (UTC)I is American English.Reply
And THIS is the official way to spell the tribe names, in guide order! MudWing, SandWing, SkyWing, SeaWing, RainWing, IceWing NightWing, HiveWing, SilkWing, LeafWing. Spell them the way they're spelled in the books, like the list above! Queen Shore the SeaWing (talk) 14:45, 19 March 2020 (UTC)I am American English.Reply
I don't think that we should put all the stuff on there. If we can create separate pages for the books, we can get rid of the complicated plot summaries and instead move it to the page, and leave the blurbs. The point of views can go on the new pages as well Also i fixed the error where under tribes, there was Pyrriah, Pantala and BeetleWings. I removed BeetleWings for now, since we don't have enough information to describe them. Lots of citations are needed, though! Help! 203.221.56.24 (talk) 11:23, 16 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
Hello! I am a French contributor of Wikipedia, and I translated this page in French. But this page is withdrawing because it hasn't reliable sources. Can you give me a source for my article? Thank you very much. -- Overlord Kelmor audiences 09:49, 11 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
Bonjour! (That's the only French I know oof. I know very little Espanõl, which is Spanish, in Spanish.) I fixed your punctuation, but unfortunately, I can't get you a source. I hope someone else who can reads, and responds to this though! --Queen Shore the SeaWing (talk) 05:22, 6 February 2020 (UTC)I is American English.Reply
There is far too much detail on this page. It is classified as a low-level article. The books have frankly not sold as well as more renowned books which have less coverage on Wikipedia. It will be necessary to rewrite the article.Thanoscar21 (talk) 21:38, 17 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
Objections
No! Please don't rewrite! Dragonlover21 (talk) 16:52, 20 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Please don't rewrite! 69.248.65.55 (talk) 15:19, 3 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Don't rewrite or delete! --Anonymous Pseudonymous 83 (talk) 15:36, 17 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
This article currently does not cite any independent sources at all, and has been tagged as needing sources for over a year. If sources cannot be found and added, the article should be reduced tpo a stub or simply deleted. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 04:16, 18 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Objections
B-but, there are plenty of sources! Look over it again! Dragonlover21 (talk) 11:59, 20 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
You can't delete it! You just can't! Dragonlover21 (talk) 12:01, 20 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
DESeigel Dragonlover21 (talk) 12:02, 20 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Oh. Dragonlover21 (talk) 12:03, 20 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
- @Dragonlover21: It's not a matter of personal choice, it's just a matter of standards. Wikipedia articles are a summary of professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources. There need to be at least three sources that are independent of the subject to prove notability. Of the three sources, two are interviews (and so not independent) and are about upcoming graphic novels (things that might not happen generally are not notable), and one is only about the TV show -- there are no sources about Wings of Fire general. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:52, 20 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Although I can't think of a way to incorporate them as of right now, here are some more independent sources related to the Wings of Fire book series:
- 'Wings of Fire' Flying High By Shannon Maughan
- Wings of Fire books 1-10 (reviews of the series)
- Book Review: Wings of Fire – The Dragonet Prophecy (Book 1)
There's also a Fandom wiki, but I doubt that's considered a proper source since they're almost certainly much worse at sourcing than you guys. --JumboDS64 (talk) 03:22, 16 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
Don't delete! 69.248.65.55 (talk) 15:21, 3 September 2020 (UTC) DO NOT DELETE!!!!!!! WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER-MUCH BETTER — Preceding unsigned comment added by Retagirl (talk • contribs) 16:30, 7 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
Why are you doing this? Please stop. This will mislead others and it is not funny. WingsofFire2028 (talk) 16:45, 28 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Also, anyone who wants to help, please help me fix the article. WingsofFire2028 (talk) 16:48, 28 May
2020 (UTC)
I'll help but also still help other people. (Retagirl (talk) 15:07, 6 October 2020 (UTC))Reply
Does anyone think it is a good idea to make an individual page for The Dragonet Prophecy? 2601:601:9080:5C30:CC72:5AFC:C937:6FA6 (talk) 22:39, 9 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
- Are there multiple independent reliable sources that provide in-depth coverage about it and are specifically about that book and not just the series in general? Ian.thomson (talk) 22:51, 9 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
Hmm, not really. 2601:601:9080:5C30:CC72:5AFC:C937:6FA6 (talk) 23:03, 9 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
No. This is good, don't delete it. 69.248.65.55 (talk) 15:23, 3 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Delete what? The only thing I see you asking not to delete is the The Dragonet Prophecy page which doesn't even exist. 2601:601:9080:5C30:8CBB:FCA5:F646:3C3B (talk) 17:15, 8 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
24toonenata (talk) 19:50, 24 October 2020 (UTC) I personally think this is a good idea. Also, whoever wrote the wings of fire series page wasn't too good at punctuation, lol I fixed most of it thoughReply
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: move Wings of Fire to Wings of Fire (autobiography) with the disambiguation page Wings of Fire (disambiguation) moving to Wings of Fire. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 22:03, 24 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
– The novel series seems significantly more popular than the autobiography, so it should be the primary topic instead. In a Google search for "Wings of Fire", the first three pages of results are exclusively about this series. I think this is pretty clear-cut, but in the event that it's not, my second choice would be to say that there is no primary topic and move Wings of Fire (disambiguation) there instead. Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:50, 9 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
- Oppose 1st, support 2nd, move DAB to primary - disambiguate all per WP:NOPRIMARY. Google WP:HITS aren't a standard we should follow, due to inherent biases. Pageviews are quite equal for both topics. -- Netoholic @ 18:24, 9 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
- Fair enough. I'm always a bit suspicious of pageviews when one of the pages is already at the primary location, though, since we don't know how many of the people who ended up on that one meant to end up on one of the others. Jackmcbarn (talk) 18:46, 9 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
- Right, that's often a reason we disambiguate all. Once pageviews settle down after the move, we'll have a better picture, but I doubt the needle will move much on this one. -- Netoholic @ 01:20, 10 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
- Fair enough. I'm always a bit suspicious of pageviews when one of the pages is already at the primary location, though, since we don't know how many of the people who ended up on that one meant to end up on one of the others. Jackmcbarn (talk) 18:46, 9 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
- Support the second move -- it's probably best if we wait a few months and see if the page view stats become clear once the autobiography is no longer at the base name and then perhaps propose again.--Yaksar (let's chat) 20:11, 9 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
- The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
In the The Hidden Kingdom summary, it says Magnificent cheated for the camouflage contest. But that isn't really cheat. She was unethical, sure, but it wasn't against the rules or anything. Do you think this should be changed? 2601:601:9080:5C30:7095:469E:9A6B:4988 (talk) 03:45, 2 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
No, I'm pretty sure it was cheating. Silver might be a sloth, but injuring people in the sidelines should be considered cheating. Ex-Borg Seven of Nine (talk) 22:16, 14 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
But she didn't injure anyone. 2601:601:9080:5C30:7D79:CD6F:6C20:CEE (talk) 00:52, 16 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
She injured Silver. Ex-Borg Seven of Nine (talk) 17:31, 16 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Should the plot summary be removed as spoilers? This might make one fans very, very upset. It would definitely upset me. Ex-Borg Seven of Nine (talk) 22:17, 14 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Should Peacemaker have his own character analysis? Darkstalker already has one, but technicaly they're different dragons. If Peacemaker does, it should be put in the minor characters section. Ex-Borg Seven of Nine (talk) 01:00, 17 December 2020 (UTC)Reply