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Line 136: :An intriguing message. Before I reply, could you please let me know which username or IP address you commented under in the RFC? [[User:AirshipJungleman29|~~ AirshipJungleman29]] ([[User talk:AirshipJungleman29#top|talk]]) 17:53, 20 August 2024 (UTC) ::5.39.134.145 [[Special:Contributions/93.141.181.3|93.141.181.3]] ([[User talk:93.141.181.3|talk]]) 11:49, 22 August 2024 (UTC) :::Okay then. You posted [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nikola_Tesla/Nationality_and_ethnicity&diff=prev&oldid=1235678688 a single 20-word !vote] in the 21,000-word RfC, somehow came to the conclusion that everything in the close should have been a response to you specifically, and got offended that the close was directed at the major participants: {{red|"Why should I care? Tell it those who made a mess. I surely haven't ... Why do I care about that user? I was there to review sources ... Again, why do I care about that used [''sic''] ... Again, why do I care about that??? I don't care about all that.}} Weirdly, those who contributed more than 0.1% of the discussion got more attention in the close. :::Now, let's move on from your huffing. :::*The RfC statement was not [[WP:RFCBRIEF|short, being over 250 words]], or [[WP:RFCNEUTRAL|neutral, as it was clearly arguing for the answer "yes" to both questions]]. :::*I don't particularly care to pedantize over whether "often" and "in some regards" are meaningfully different. :::*No, [[WP:C|the copyright policy]] does not allow for direct quotations without attribution—see [[WP:PLAGFORM]]. :::*Go ahead, find one bit of [[WP:WRFC]] that the opening statement followed. :::*{{red|"No one stepped out of boundaries"}} ... yeah, totally. I suppose when you wrote "why do I care" about 8,500 words of bludgeoning, you really meant that. :::*No, sources were vaguely mentioned, along with decade-old discussions on other talk pages, but no-one, including yourself, actually discussed them. Your "review of sources" actually consisted of saying {{red|"The sources are there"}}—no shit Sherlock? If you believe that the question of [[WP:DUE]] was {{red|"explicitly asked in the RfC intro"}}, why did you not bother to address it at all? Your !vote was characteristic of the typical level of engagement with sources in this discussion—extremely superficial. :::*{{red|"You are here to resolve that"}} If you click on the link I provided, you'll find a list of common RfC results, of which two are "RfC is not well-formed" and "Consensus cannot be evaluated". :::*Since you ask, a better opening statement would have been the updated proposal (reached after a period of [[WP:RFCBEFORE]] discussion), reading something like: {{Green|Should "At the time of his birth Croatian Military Frontier was a dependent province held by the Austrian Empire as part of Kingdom of Croatia." be added after the first sentence in the "Early years" section?}} Then, the RfC opener would put their sources, reasoning, and conclusion in their first !vote. The guidance at [[WP:WRFC]] visualises why this framing is helpful. :::I think that's about all I have to say. If you have any further concerns, please start a [[WP:CLOSECHALLENGE]] at [[WP:AN]]. [[User:AirshipJungleman29|~~ AirshipJungleman29]] ([[User talk:AirshipJungleman29#top|talk]]) 13:02, 22 August 2024 (UTC) == Limia perugiae DYK == | |||