User talk:BruceSwanson: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

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Bruce, in general we do not link to Amazon, particularly not for things like ratings (i.e. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Treatise_on_the_Gods&diff=411328488&oldid=408336824]). Ratings are user-generated akin to citing wikipedia as a source - just not done as they are not considered [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. For reviews and commentary we should be seeking reliable sources such as book reviews in scholarly publications or newspapers - you may find some useful commentary and information on google books. Finding sources for books as old as this one can be problematic unfortunately (it's part of the [[WP:CSB|systemic bias of wikipedia]]) but non-expert reviews are pretty much irrelevant for us. [[User:WLU|WLU]] <small>[[User talk:WLU|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/WLU|(c)]] Wikipedia's rules:</small>[[WP:SIMPLE|^{<span style='color:#FFA500'>simple</span>}]]/[[WP:POL|_{<span style='color:#008080'>complex</span>}]] 17:37, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

== [[WP:MEAT|Meatpuppeting]] ==

Based on [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:BruceSwanson&diff=prev&oldid=411222498 this] edit, you appear to be claiming responsibility for the content of [http://rethinkingaids.com.93.seekdotnet.com/Content/WikipediaGetInvolvedNEW/tabid/195/Default.aspx Wikipedia this] page. Is this the case? If so, you appear to be advocating for [[WP:MEAT|meatpuppeting]], not "crowdsourcing". As has been said before - page content is [[WP:DEMOCRACY|not based on voting or democratic principles]]. It is based on [[WP:MEDRS|reliable sources]] and the scientific consensus, which is clearly that HIV causes AIDS and kills people. AIDS denialism is clearly considered deadly pseudoscience. I'm not going to get into the specific of claims or a debate - debating is worthless. AIDS denialists can claim whatever nonsense they want to but on wikipedia we represent them as cranks and actual AIDS research as reported in scientific journals. You are also advocating for [[WP:GAME|gaming the system]] towards a [[WP:FRINGE|fringe POV]] that you can't support through reference to actual reliable sources.

This is serious, and strongly frowned upon by the community. You are flirting with [[WP:BAN|topic banning]] here. You have been given many warnings and chances to support your viewpoint with reference to reliable sources, and have consistently [[WP:CPUSH|civilly pushed your POV]]. Now that you've taken it off-wiki in the form of blatant calls for people to abuse the rules, you are much closer to the community taking it seriously and do something about it.

This is not a threat, this is fair warning. Based on past behaviour I'm not really expecting you to take it seriously; this warning is mostly for other editors. I can't ask you to change your mind, I can tell you the consequences of your particular form of advocacy. [[User:WLU|WLU]] <small>[[User talk:WLU|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/WLU|(c)]] Wikipedia's rules:</small>[[WP:SIMPLE|^{<span style='color:#FFA500'>simple</span>}]]/[[WP:POL|_{<span style='color:#008080'>complex</span>}]] 17:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)