User talk:Drmies - Wikipedia

Hello again - I'm the person who suggested that you read Vanity Fair a few months ago, and I thought it would be courteous to refrain from suggesting anything else after that long read. But have you read Elizabeth Gaskell's Cranford? It's a very short Victorian novel by one of my favorites from that era (I'm now rereading one of her darker ones, North and South) and one of the most appealing short novels I've ever read. (Elizabeth Gaskell's life of Charlotte Brontë is another marvel, but a bit longer.) Meanwhile, you've certainly got more pressing things to worry about, but if you've have another suggestion of something medieval that's as intriguing as the Lais of Marie de France, which you suggested last time. The Laiswere memorably strange and wonderful (and, it occurs to me, sometimes a bit like some of the stories in the Decameron), and if you've got more in the same general line, please do let me know. All best wishes, as before. - Macspaunday (talk) 22:16, 4 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Ha, I'm ankle-deep in The Blithedale Romance, just having read The Scarlet Letter and The House of the Seven Gables. So it'll have to wait, and I have to tell you that I'm rereading Hawthorne because I'm reading Beneath the American Renaissance. In other words, I got a bunch of secondary and primary material to read: all of Dickinson, Melville, Whitman. I'm skipping Emerson, of course. But I'll see if I can pick up a copy of Cranford, and maybe it will tempt me enough. To return the favor...well...let me think on that a little bit. I assume you've read all your Chaucer, but you may not have read his Troilus which is, as far as I'm concerned, the greatest ME poem. Oh, wait, I got a weird one! Guillaume de Dole! It's weird, it's wacky, it's gender-bending, it has a certain Robin-Hood-in-Tights appeal, it's got sword fights and clever women...and poems! Drmies (talk) 23:41, 4 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
  • I've always had mixed feelings about Hawthorne; too many cheerful words hiding the dark vision underneath, but probably that's the point. But Guillaume du Dole - that sounds very intriguing. I read the "other" Roman de la Rose a few years ago and was marvelously startled by it - especially that ending, which means an awful lot that it doesn't quite say. I'm about to order that 1990s translation now. Thank you! - Macspaunday (talk) 11:06, 5 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
    • Guillaume de Dole just arrived from a bookseller in South Carolina. Will get started on it very soon. It's short! - Macspaunday (talk) 16:47, 9 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
      • Well, thank you, Drmies! A terrifically exciting story - things were getting really worrisome there toward the end - and also some of the weirdest social conventions I've ever seen outside of a meeting of tenured faculty in my department. Also, the decision to marry someone more or less sight unseen is just like academic hiring. I especially liked the self-promoting opening. - Let me know how you like Cranford if you get a chance to try it. And thanks again! - Macspaunday (talk) 23:57, 19 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Don't worry, Doc Mice, I've fixed your embarrassing faux pas. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:21, 7 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Only softcore sax though! _Muffled ^Pocketed 11:24, 7 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thanks Martin. Which reminds me: one of my friends has this album ($250 on Ebay), which is why I wrote it up. On the back someone wrote "Bill Holman Octet"--clearly someone with an ax(e) to grind. Drmies (talk) 14:31, 7 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Eight seems a bit many, but that's swing for you, I guess. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:41, 7 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Tentacle erotica- some people are suckers for it. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 15:11, 7 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Who knew! Martinevans123 (talk) 15:20, 7 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I wonder if the folks who hired Vince Guaraldi to score A Charlie Brown Christmas knew he had played on this? Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 01:18, 8 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

The only documentation that I could find for Voodoo Trombone Quartet (AfD discussion) said that it wasn't a quartet. Uncle G (talk) 08:46, 9 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• One of the motions on Nederland in Beweging this morning reminded me of ska. How's the album, Uncle? Drmies (talk) 12:29, 9 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Wow Doc, you is so darn hottttt! "tsssss"!! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:38, 10 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi Doc

Happy Summer. This stupid edit skirmish could use the input of a professional writer such as yourself. My survey of precedent sources (which is not exhaustive) indicates that (as suggested in the forum page that the antagonist linked to in the edit summary) "is" is used when the article is current reporting, and "was" is used when it's historical--and that the distinction of whether the survivors continue to survive is not relevant to the tense of the verb. Rather, it simply indicates whether the reporting is contemporaneous—NOTNEWS— or retrospective / for posterity (see my summary on talk page). Do you have a view? Wasn't able to find anything in Chicago Style (but I'm not a subscriber so can't be definitive).

Thoughts?

Thanks ^Bongo_matic 08:19, 8 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

(talk page watcher) Since Wikipedia is neither a newspaper nor an obituary repository, "is [or was] survived by" has no place in it. If the relatives are to be mentioned, the mention should be in another paragraph: a paragraph about his family (and since they are non-notable, it is immaterial whether any of them are alive or will be whenever the article may be read). If the information is lengthy enough, it can be in a separate "Personal Life" section. If the information is not even lengthy or notable enough to mention (or if the subject and/or article itself is not notable enough or lengthy enough for such information), just omit the part about the relatives completely. Softlavender (talk) 08:57, 8 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Well, Softlavender has a point, but in some cases (or many cases, I don't know) it may be too fine a point. I don't mind it here. The business of tense--I could look it up, but hey, I just don't know. The FA and GA writers will know--folks like Casliber and Ritchie333. Drmies (talk) 16:08, 8 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Bongo is right that "is" should be used when the surviving relatives are still living, or "was" if they are all deceased, but Softlavender is also right that it's generally something we should not need to use. A well-written and comprehensive biography will have family details and cause of death in some detail, making a simple "survived by" clause that joins the two things together unnecessary. I've updated the article to make this argument superfluous. PS: It's nice to be called an "FA" writer despite having a 100% failure rate at FAC (the last attempt, The Beatles (album) didn't make it out of PR before I got bored) :-) Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:16, 8 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Actually @Ritchie333:, I was arguing the opposite. I was suggesting that "was" is to be used when an article written retrospectively and for posterity, without any concern whatsoever as to the status of the survivors at the time of writing. An encyclopedia article about someone who died a year ago should read the same (other than new facts) as about someone who died fifty years ago. It's only news articles that are explicitly contemporaneous with the death of the subject (I argue) that should use "is". ^Bongo_matic 05:27, 10 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I'm with Softlavender here. The phrase invariable indicate a copy from an obit or an attempt to write like an obit., and that's why we have the fundamental policy NOT OBITUARY. Normally the people include at least the spouse and children & parents is still living, and our practice is to list them under personal life if the person is more than borderline notable. If they include further relatives, normally they are not relevant to the article at all, unless the person is very famous. (Of course there are exceptions--two brothers who form a company) . I cannot immediately think of any example where the terms would be appropriately used. DGG ( talk ) 02:00, 12 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Drmies can you block this [1] piece of shit? Irondome (talk) 01:18, 9 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Sure! I block Nazis for free. I was watching the news, thinking how long it would be before we have an article on this. Meanwhile, recent suicide bombings in Turkey and Iraq do not get this instant coverage--on Wikipedia, and on three networks at the same time. Drmies (talk) 01:44, 9 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• One place Turkey and Iraq were both mentioned, and highlighted in pink and red, was in a leaflet that I just received telling me to vote for the UK to leave the European Union. This is strange because neither have much to do with it. Turkey is a prospective EU member -- but not going to happen while Erdogan is in charge I think -- but Iraq is mostly a place for EU states' military intervention and arms sales, not potential membership. MPS1992 (talk) 17:49, 9 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Turkey has an article and is also on the front page of Wikipedia. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 18:07, 9 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• That's good enough grounds for admission in my view. MPS1992 (talk) 21:40, 9 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Just remember: if we do our duty and vote to leave the EU, good honest British excrement will not be subject to endless foreign red-tape and regulation like the so-called "WEEE directive". And we won't be flooded with these scrounging hoards of LATS and WIDS (or is that wogs, sorry I'm not sure). Martinevans123 (talk) 21:55, 9 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Enoch was right. I 'ad that Dalai Lama in the back of the cab last week..Irondome (talk) 22:09, 9 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Ahem. I think you'll find that UK llamas are covered by Council Regulation (EC) No 1/2005 of 22 December 2004 on the protection of animals during transport and related operations and amending Directives 64/432/EEC and 93/119/EC and Regulation (EC) No 1255/97. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:25, 9 June 2016 (UTC) Reply

See what I mean? They won't even let you live. I blame that Uber an'all, I mean its ruining the trade. Irondome (talk) 22:34, 9 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thanks Martinevans - I'm trying hard to keep WP up-to-date on animal welfare legislation and that is one I think I have missed. If you had a Push-me-pull-you llama, how would you know how to transport it head first and what would the EU do about it if you got it wrong? Bring on the next 2 weeks! DrChrissy ^(talk) 22:44, 9 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

A contribution to rock 'n' roll of Pete Townshend as a member of The Who is a contribution to rock 'n' roll of The Who. By your logic, no rock bands have contributed anything to rock 'n' roll, only individuals have. 72.43.153.30 (talk) 15:41, 9 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

(talk page watcher) Whooooo are you? Whoo-whoo! Whoo whoo! _Muffled ^Pocketed 15:54, 9 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

(talk page watcher) Perhaps it is Tommy DrChrissy ^(talk) 16:22, 9 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• No, you're wrong on both counts. If you can't tell the difference between a guitar player and the band he's in... Drmies (talk) 02:28, 10 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Didn't stop them from edit-warring it back in *sigh* [2] Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:56, 10 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere... _Muffled ^Pocketed 14:58, 10 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I gave the descriptions better citations. In the section regarding the John Oliver segment, I replaced Huffington Post, Daily Beast, and Washington Post with New York Times, Times Magazine, and Wall Street Journal. Yoshiman6464 (talk) 11:05, 10 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

(talk page watcher) Sounds like the Post has gone downhll then! _Muffled ^Pocketed 11:11, 10 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Back in August 2015, you indefinitely fully protected Woody Paige because of the severe sock puppetry by Jaredgk2008. There was an SPI open yesterday involving him vandalizing Hank Goldberg. I wondered if the protection on Hank Goldberg could be increased from semi protection to 30/500 protection because the protection policy for 30/500 protection says:

Extended confirmed protection may only be applied where authorized by the arbitration committee or in response to persistent sockpuppetry or continued use of new, disruptive accounts where other methods (such as semi protection) have not controlled the disruption.

JamesBWatson agreed with me and raised protection on Hank Goldberg from semi to 30/500. Do you want to try lowering protection on Woody Paige from full to 30/500 because of what the protection policy says? —MRD2014 T C 14:59, 10 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Ask JamesBWatson--if it's OK with him it's OK with me. Ah poor Jared really needs a girlfriend. Drmies (talk) 00:12, 11 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hahahaha. I asked you because you protected it. —MRD2014 T C 01:01, 11 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I'm not sure why you should tell MRD2014 to ask me, Drmies, since you protected the article, and I had nothing to do with it. I don't see the fact that I did something similar to a completely different article as somehow making me involved. However, since you have referred MRD2014 to me, I've looked at the history of the article. It is clear that semi-protection and block-a-mole totally failed to deal with the problem, and as far as I can see full protection and 30/500 protection are the only other options. Since 30/500 protection stands to cause less collateral damage, it seems to me that we ought to try that, and return to full protection only if it doesn't work. I'll go ahead and change the protection.

On a different issue, why do you assume that Jared is heterosexual?   The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:00, 11 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

JamesBWatson, you are correct: that is just an assumption and the less said about this person, the better. Listen, I didn't ask/ping you because of involvement--I asked you because of your expertise. I've been feeling a bit out of touch; in part it's ArbCom, maybe, but another part is this summer, with a different schedule and all that. I feel like my Wikipedia editing is more disjointed than it's ever been, so I'm finding myself relying more and more on others. Thanks, and take care, Drmies (talk) 16:34, 11 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Your Wikipedia editing is excellent, as always. The only problem is that you are distracted by your wonderful children, appealing swimming pools, and the elegant Dutch metrosexual jackets that you fancy. Otherwise, all is well. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:44, 12 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 11 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

...and our friend on Talk:Knanaya is back (Psthomas, in case you've forgotten). The article protection expired this past week (I've now reset it for another year), rangeblocks are out of the question so it'll be one long time sink. —SpacemanSpiff 02:44, 11 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Yeah. Ignore them on the talk page--RBI. Cuchullain, if you want to try and guide this editor along, as your talk page comment suggested, you have my blessing. If so, feel free to roll back my rollback. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 03:22, 11 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, Drmies. I'm not going to un-rollback their comments. I think right now our best bet is not to engage with them until/unless they give an indication they'll participate in a non-disruptive manner. Their last comments have just been more of the same.--Cúchullain ^t/c 03:40, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Can you figure out if this article – Iselilja (given name) – should exist or not? A name that less than 20 Norwegians sport [3]? The name is actually the cryptic title, Iselilja, of a 2004 album by the band Gåte. My thinking is the article should possibly be merged into that (or possibly outright deleted). Softlavender (talk) 05:18, 12 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Err I always thought Netherlands? Only 600 miles apart... Leerdammer rather than Lutefisk :) but you're probably correct in casting a doubtful eye on it- can the name really have been 'made up' a year ago, and yet have no meaning?!_Muffled ^Pocketed 08:43, 12 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

How silly of me to forget. Drmies is Danish, of course. Softlavender (talk) 08:52, 12 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I'm pretty sure Drmies is from Öland, he's written articles about Öländska lighthouses and stuff. Or Iceland — did anybody see Rams? Stark landscapes, silent men, made me think of Drmies. I've prodded Iselilja (given name). Bishonen | talk 11:17, 12 June 2016 (UTC).Reply

They all look alike, Bish. Or perhaps I should say, you all look alike. Softlavender (talk) 11:21, 12 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• (talk page stalker) @Iselilja: Are you still out there? Yngvadottir (talk) 16:14, 12 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• yes I saw "Rams". At no time did I think of Drmies...... Bearded men wrestling with sheep in a man-made desert. The shot of the vet riding into the dusk on her pony was lovely. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 17:54, 12 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• I do enjoy sheep wrestling. I can be many things (including honorary Tamil) but I can't be German. Drmies (talk) 20:06, 12 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Are you sure? We have plenty of sheeps along the North Sea coast and the language barrier is almost neglectable. De728631 (talk) 22:15, 12 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Oh I'm quite sure. Go back to watching TV, De. You might miss a penalty kick or a championship or something like that. Drmies (talk) 12:08, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Pretty sure Doc's Alabamian. roll tide Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 21:07, 12 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
  • So does that mean this page falls under WP:ARBEE? Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 21:55, 12 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Albanian? Who knew? Yes, then, I guess so. Softlavender (talk) 02:29, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

No, no, no, Alabamian. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 03:06, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Please all stop discussing Doktoro mi estas' cover identity. Probe too deeply, and xyr Chameleon Arch will shut down and xyr memory will be restored. See /Archive 43#What's in a name?. Uncle G (talk) 08:56, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Why do you keep reinserting material from http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?55352-The-Hadith-of-Najd. The wiki article was created in 2006 whereas the blog that it is copying from was created in 2005. Clearly the wiki article is copying the blog. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.198.141 (talk) 21:09, 12 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Clearly...well, let me not finish the sentence. You've been trying this foolishness for long enough now; I've semi-protected the article. Drmies (talk) 21:47, 12 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Are you blind as well as stupid? If you had bothered to go to the link I provided you would have seen that the blog is from 2005 and the article is from 2006. You foolish prick. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.251.100 (talk) 14:41, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hello, Dr. Could you keep half on eye on this? For years it's been tended by a paid contributor; this morning I removed long lists of council members, as well as promotional content with copyright issues. In short, the article has been functioning as a public relations page for the council. By the way, I enjoyed the above discussion, wherein there was some confusion as to whether you live in Alabama or Albania. As if there's a difference. Cheers from avatar of 99, 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 12:35, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• The article needs a hatnote- "Not to be confused with the British Sub Aqua Club". The council provides "thought leadership" to HM Government- they must think they're the bleedin' Illuminati. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 16:48, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• And regarding the listing of awards here: ecchhh. 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 12:39, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi, 99. Looks like Carrite put the awards list back in. It's not unusual for craft brewery articles to list awards, viz.: Gordon Biersch, Ballast Point and Stone, if we're looking at other California brewers of that ilk. Probably notable, no? But needs sourcing. Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 15:06, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Perhaps you're right, though I was inclined to buy Drmies' interpretation. At any rate, I'm guessing that all awards are not equal, and that adding them in prose format looks a lot less promotional than list, which ends up taking most of the article space. And yes to sourcing--I was surprised that an experienced editor restored without addressing that. Thanks, 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:22, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Without looking at this case, but speaking in generalities as someone who works a lot with beer articles, here is my take: Awards from the two major national/international beer festivals, namely Great American Beer Festival and the World Beer Cup, are considered notable and are commonly listed in articles - usually in prose format. Most other beer festivals and awards are not listed unless there was something unusual or notable about the particular award. --MelanieN (talk) 15:37, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Well, and after looking at it I deleted everything but the GABF and World Beer Cup. Things like state fairs and regional competitions (even if they are "international") are not generally listed. The items are still unsourced, but sourcing from the festivals themselves should be easy to find. --MelanieN (talk) 15:44, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Found the references for the remaining awards and added to the article. Much better now. Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 16:36, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thanks all. MelanieN, I appreciate it. Does the beer project have any guidelines? Can you add this? I'll support. Drmies (talk) 16:55, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I could not find any guideline, so I have started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Beer. --MelanieN (talk) 17:24, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Nice work--thank you. I'd propose a high bar (no pun intended) that may accord with our general guidelines--an award is worth listing if its bestowal has earned mention from reliable sources. Oh my, I can hear the hissing already. 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:29, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hiss, hiss--you mean a mention in the local paper that beer X won award Y? :) Drmies (talk) 22:59, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

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My kind fellow user, if you can, can you please translate the reference #7 in Oleguer Presas's article? Again, Google T was of no use, and I was not going to take any chances, WP deserves better.

Tomorrow, GO ICELAND (yes, you heard me correctly, I-C-E-L-A-N-D!), you keep it up --Be Quiet AL (talk) 18:34, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• I'm not watching, AL... If you guys are in, all the best to you. Drmies (talk) 22:28, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• There is an small orange contingent, you know... *sob*. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:34, 13 June 2016 (UTC) Reply

Lost in translation: if you're not watching, you're not missing anything, 22 guys running after a football and people (trying to) kill(ing) each other over a goddamn sport!! About the translation bit: please don't say (not to me at least) "all the best", I don't care what happens to Portugal, matter of fact I hope they LOSE all the games, time to have that patriotic fervour (i.e. numbskullness) toned down a notch. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 22:59, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• And what about Mr. Presas' article? --Be Quiet AL (talk) 23:00, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Do you know of any other Dutch-speaking users, so that I may ask them please? --Be Quiet AL (talk) 12:58, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Thanks and sorry for the hastiness, I get all iffy when I see a fellow user logged in and editing and/or replying to other stuff in their talkpages but not my queries. Oh well, continue the great work... --Be Quiet AL (talk) 13:56, 16 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
  • Vasco, I don't always see everything that happens here. Sorry. Plus, I can't be everything all the time... Hey, I saw you were not the only one who hates Ronaldo. "We’d recommend Ronaldo take a long hard look at himself in the mirror if we didn’t know that he already spends several hours a day doing exactly that." Drmies (talk) 14:21, 16 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I know man, please bear with this old fool (or is it the opposite, as in "don't fool this old bear"). Just finished extensively improving Mr. Presas (Ajax man!)' article, very very interesting (if not for lending his support to that ETA terrorist, I'd say "my kind of guy" without flinching one second). Of course, footballers like the princess mentioned above by you and the tattoos and the tweets and the whatnots are much more "valuable", what's a man to do? --Be Quiet AL (talk) 16:21, 16 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Was he a good footballer? That's always difficult to judge from the stats--defenders don't really have stats. Drmies (talk) 17:38, 16 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Decent one, was fortunate to have his heyday playing alongside this chap. People often say "oh he renounced the Spanish football team because he was crap", but that's just - pardon the redundancy - crap! --Be Quiet AL (talk) 18:11, 16 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hey Dermies, SteveMcQueen36 made some pretty strong accusations over at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blackjack (cannabis) regarding your nom. Just to let you know. -- LuK3 (Talk) 19:08, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

See WP:STONED.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:39, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

It's a vehement rant over there, but the fact is there aren't sources because cannabis has been illegal in the United States since the 1930s. Among the blogs and grower sites, you can find the occasional reference for the proposition that claims about strains are meaningless. Now Doc, coming from a civilized country that houses Amsterdam, maybe there are some Dutch reliable sources for double-blind research? <heh - if they imbibed enough, it would be double-blind>. But there's no call for insults! Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 20:02, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

That's not quite right. Marijuana is illegal under U.S. federal law, but various states permit its use to various degrees and with limitations. But even if it were illegal, that wouldn't preclude there being sources for assertions. I don't even see a relationship between reliable sources and the legality of a substance. Unless of course you mean something else by the word "sources".  --Bbb23 (talk) 21:27, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi Bbb23, I meant that the U.S. federal status has hindered research, limiting (or eliminating for now) creation of reliable sources such as double-blind scientific studies, etc. The L A Weekly article I cited above refers to a preliminary study on the efficacy of one specific strain. That suggests that time will give us sources, but nothing emerges yet. The conflict of laws between the state statutes permitting use and the still extant federal ban means that banking is a problem for purveyors, not to mention DEA raids on state-approved (or tolerated) grows and dispensaries. Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 21:43, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Bbb, my only source is someone who's lucky enough to have a job where they don't get tested--but that stuff they smoke here, and they way they smoke it, it's too heavy for my delicate frame. But then, apparently I belong to the anti-marijuana lobby, quite a change from my file in high school, which placed me in my hometown's drug scene. Drmies (talk) 21:53, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Speaking of lobbies, when I was in college, I was in a dormitory for a while. The officials who monitored our necessarily rambunctious college behavior were convinced that everyone was on drugs all the time. So, one afternoon, some friends and I smoked tea (real tea) in the lobby, which tends to smell like marijuana but of course is not illegal. The dorm officials pounced on us, at which point we showed them the substance we were smoking and genteelly offered them a nice drag of piping hot tea. Geoff, double-blind studies aren't necesary to demonstrate the notability of a substance. But even if they were, if an article at Wikipedia can't be backed up by reliable sources, it gets deleted. Too bad if they're "hard to find". Over and far out.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:12, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Speaking of lobbies?? Time for a night cap, anyone? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:22, 13 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

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• Nailed it. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 11:31, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Thanks X! Drmies (talk) 14:48, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi Drmies, a recent IP you blocked may need their talk page access revoked for a little while - what do you think? -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 15:26, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

(talk page watcher)"Have a good news"!! :) _Muffled ^Pocketed 15:31, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

(talk page stalker)..It is done, Master...2 wishes left ;). Lectonar (talk) 16:17, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Oh, I think this was the right thing to do. Lectonar, I'm quickly running out of wishes. How do I get a new set if these are done? Drmies (talk) 17:40, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Don't you usually have to rub one out to get three more wishes? Sir Joseph ^(talk) 17:44, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Sir Joseph...that only works with the older generation. Wikijinn ho!. Lectonar (talk) 19:02, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Lectonar, I've been playing Achtung Baby in the car; that always makes me think of Germany. I salute you and your fellow German speakers. I understand that some Germans are interested in a certain sport that's being played as we speak, and I wish you the best in it. Personally, I have no interest in that sport, of course. Take care, Drmies (talk) 17:46, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• You'll find it funny....I am absolutely not interested in the sport you might be talking about :), as I used to play Rugby. I was rather downtrodden that Belgium lost last night against Germany's nemesis, though, as I was all made up with Belgian colours and had the Vuvuzela ready. Anyway, Achtung Baby is of course wonderful. If you want some real high class German Music, try Spliff (band), especially a song called Déjà vu; it's almost Dada if you can make non-sense of the text. Lectonar (talk) 18:58, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Haha, Spliff! Yes, I remember them well. I was a big fan of Herman Brood myself, and wrote up a bunch of Brood stuff, including Cha Cha (soundtrack). Isn't it amazing, by the way, that the 1980s new wave and rock and roll fans didn't become Wikipedia editors? Spliff needs some work too... Drmies (talk) 00:36, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi. Just a reminder that in just over a week at Wikimania there's going to be a cross-Wiki discussion about the systems of control of new pages. This is a round-table rather than a presentation or a lecture. On the agenda are reforms to the new article reviewing systems and ways to help new users better understand our content policies. If you are going to Italy and would like to take part, please check out the conference schedule, and I look forward to seeing you there. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:58, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Oh, yeah, Italy--I'll be on a plane tomorrow, Kudpung! Drmies (talk) 22:57, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Someone erroneously arranged for me to get the blame for this, too. Clearly, I have zero edits to the article. I only made an AFC nomination. Uncle G (talk) 09:06, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I noticed the article, Battle of Marj Dabiq, has massive sections plagiarized from The Mameluke; Or, Slave Dynasty of Egypt, 1260–1517, A. D., William Muir, 1896 [4]. I tagged the article and posted my concern on the talk page. User:Ibadibam, removes said tag, stating, "plagiarized source is public domain..". I was unaware that a source in "public domain" is allowed to be plagiarized.

Would you, or anyone else, be able to give some insight into this? --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:52, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Well, see Wikipedia:Plagiarism. Plagiarism is not the same as copyright violation, of course; it's about proper attribution. Articles with much copied text are typically poor articles and need to be rewritten. Nothing is allowed to be plagiarized, but material in the free domain can be used if properly cited. That's not much of an answer, maybe, but that's what it is. If you pinpoint the passages, maybe there's more I can say but, and I admit I'm ignorant here, I don't understand how we have entire articles copied from the 1911 Encyclopedia Brittanica. Drmies (talk) 02:33, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Because people wanted to grow the encyclopaedia quickly way back when. Those 1911 things have come back to bite us - they are an absolute nightmare, especially if other stuff has been added since. - Sitush (talk) 05:20, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Looks like you're around. Could you grab your mop and tidy up this mess? I've offered a NAC but maybe that's not the best idea in such a sprawling case. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:21, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• I may need to make a cup of coffee before I do. Drmies (talk) 02:24, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. Both of those guys are capable of so much better, but I have this sinking feeling that things may not end well for either of them. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 03:57, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Oh, I'm surprised that DrCrissy hasn't been topic banned from everything yet, and that jps hasn't been blocked indefinitely yet. I kinda like both of them; they know stuff, and they certainly add that little je ne sais quoi. Drmies (talk) 12:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

...the cabaret...? _Muffled ^Pocketed

Please do a checkuser check on user:Vegasceltics55 and user:Lakerlover6969 for they were both vandalizing DodgeBall: A True Underdog Story at the same time. Please block the IP address where they originate from. 2602:306:3357:BA0:4021:617C:E657:19B8 (talk) 02:25, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

'Don't let the door hit you on the way out,' as they say: [5]. 2601:188:1:AEA0:F9CF:CD1C:4CEC:AC6F (talk) 03:09, 15 June 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) Reply

• Oh why bother--the talk page I linked to was blanked. At any rate, cheers from 99. 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:10, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
• A pretty obvious case of Wikipedia:Wikipedia does not need you. Drmies (talk) 12:05, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

This edit introduces a massive copyright violation to the Asansol article. I deleted the block of text a few minutes ago but it probably needs to be hidden also. Can you or one of your watchers oblige please? - Sitush (talk) 05:18, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

That's about 400 revisions to delete for that one edit. Are there more copyvios or is that the only one? I see a lot more edits from that IP and possibly refreshed versions of that IP. —SpacemanSpiff 06:27, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I suspect there are/were others but I trimmed the thing so drastically that they'll likely not be there now. We've had repeated problems with copy/pastes at that article over a prolonged period but I'm afraid I took my eye off the ball. - Sitush (talk) 07:57, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

eg: the stuff in the education section and the places of interest both may have included copy/pastes. - Sitush (talk) 07:58, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Tricky. It's likely that the IP is associated with various places there (this is a copyvio too, I think, in an associated article). In cases like this, where there are so many things to delete but we can't delete the entire article, I usually call on Moonriddengirl, who has good judgment and the backing of legal experts and a team of enthusiastic go-getters. Drmies (talk) 15:55, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

FYI, Moonriddengirl last edited on May 9. EdChem (talk) 15:58, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

The other go-to person is Diannaa but she's headed off to vacation. I usually just handle the simple stuff and I'm not really sure if hiding 400 revisions for this edit is worth it. Maybe one of them will opine when they get back. I'll add Asansol to my watchlist now and will protect long-term if this resumes. —SpacemanSpiff 16:01, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

This may be the link to a named account. —SpacemanSpiff 16:07, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Yes, that is very likely (I checked the intersection tool). Can you leave them a note? And a copyvio warning? (They were already warned about an image in 2012...) On a side note, Spiffy, it's so nice to see you active. Wikipedia should put you on payroll. Wait, I'll ping Jimbo Wales--he'll get right on it. Drmies (talk) 16:11, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I've taken care of that one but Asansol probably needs a better look-in. My eyes hurt from all the copyvios we've been finding after they've been in articles for years. For those interested, Arjuna and Karna have enough to keep one occupied for a few days. —SpacemanSpiff 16:18, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Probably not worth it, IMO. Policy doesn't actually require that copyvios be revdeleted; it's only necessary if the copyvios are getting constantly reverted to. As long as the copyvios are out of the current version of the article, that's enough. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 16:11, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thanks to everyone for their input above. I'll leave it in the capable hands of the (non-existent) admin cabal. - Sitush (talk) 19:56, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• They'll send a thank-you note via carrier pigeon. Nice to see you out and about, Sitush. Drmies (talk) 20:25, 15 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:01, 16 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

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The Interior via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:36, 16 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Is there a reason you've been targeting articles that I've been involved with editing? I thought it was a coincidence, but I saw that you corrected Margaret, and I was curious. I feel as though you could've just placed a ^{[citation needed]} where it would've been necessary instead of deleting entire chunks of text, as well. In addition, most of those articles are still a work in progress. I don't understand the scrutinization. — snoɯʎuoɥʇuɐ 03:01, 16 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• You may feel however you like, Anthonymous, but you can't build encyclopedic articles on Facebook and Kickstarter. You seem to have a serious problem with WP:RS, and if those articles, where sometimes you made dozens, even hundreds of edits, are still a work in progress, then it's really time for you to figure out what are and what are not reliable sources, and what is and what is not encyclopedic information--and what is nothing but fan trivia. BTW, why is this here? Why do you remove all commentary from your own talk page, but you post it on someone else's? We could have had this conversation yesterday already, but you chose to continue this addition of trivia sourced to unacceptable things. Drmies (talk) 11:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hey there,

This is my first time 'talk'ing about a person's wiki page but figure I would add my 2 cents. The kid is a predicate fraud, with zero real experience, and a true danger to potential investors who do not do thorough due diligence. The kid at 17 claimed to have 10 years trading experience and 5 years coding experience. Does he think everyone is stupid? It's insulting. As an individual working in the asset management and financial services industry, I can confidently say he has zero clue what he is doing.

I know that to be successful in the hedge fund world / trading arena, like any other skilled trade or profession, you get what you put in. When I first heard of a "teen prodigy", I was incredibly skeptical. Being privy to information that's not publicly available, I can confirm young Jacob Wohl since he "rose to popularity" has done nothing but light money on fire. I can also offer as fact that Jacob Wohl and his entities are under inquiry from the SRO's that govern the industry; specifically the NFA and the SEC. For example, Jacob has purchased & promoted the catchy domain riskfreereturns.com that forwards visitors to his new company's website. If you manage any class of assets, you cannot claim anything to 'risk free'.

What may have began as an elaborate charade to have a kid stand out in college applications has become a true threat to potential investors. If you'd want to know any more of what I know, please feel free to reach out to me directly at gilfoylesaidso at gmail dot com. (FYI, that email is one I regularly use, use an alias I registrations so I have no problem putting it out there in the open). Hope his page gets removed.

P.S., blatantly evident the kid wrote it himself- the gaul. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:E88A:7500:10F5:EAFA:69B1:7A89 (talk) 20:20, 16 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Thanks for your note. But let me just say that PLEASE be mindful of our policy on living people, WP:BLP. That means that you cannot say anything you want about living people: this is not a free speech zone. You can add your opinion to the deletion discussion, but again, do not go too far in making accusations; what you said here is already quite iffy. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 20:45, 16 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

The Gaul? -- Softlavender (talk) 02:39, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• No, the other. Drmies (talk) 02:41, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I heart Asterix. Looky Luke and TinTin are dim shadows by comparison. Softlavender (talk) 02:48, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I think I want to have a gun because of Lucky Luke. You know, the kind that always hits the other person's gun so it falls out of their hand, where the bullet leaves a dotted line. Drmies (talk) 02:49, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

For hardcore lovers of le 9ème art: Corto Maltese. And of course there is Valérian and Laureline...she is so cute ;). Lectonar (talk) 09:19, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Or whatever the sock farm is called, is back on Peter Nguyen Van Hung, if you could do the honours. ta, _Muffled ^Pocketed 16:37, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• I've applied a different kind of protection; they'll need to do a bit more work. Drmies (talk) 16:46, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Spoil sport. Cheers! _Muffled ^Pocketed 16:50, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thanks... Drmies (talk) 16:52, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

You just know they're up to no good when they leave edit summaries like this. - Sitush (talk) 17:11, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hm, I think it will need to be semi-protected. Another IP has turned up. I've no idea if it is the same person or a concerted campaign - they're quite keen to be recognised under their "new" chosen name and to obscure their past, as the article itself makes clear. It's all part of the usual jostling for social status/invention of tradition etc. - Sitush (talk) 18:14, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Sorted by Spiffy. - Sitush (talk) 18:54, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Thanks Spiff. Drmies (talk) 21:15, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Hmm, is that good or bad? I think we're supposed to stay away, and I haven't spent that much time on ANI etc, I thought. Maybe I'm just too addicted, haha. Thanks--and, by the way, it's a million degrees here, so this is nice. Drmies (talk) 21:10, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I look on Twitter every now and then for Wikipedia keywords. Having looked at the deletion log, I think you might find this amusing. (Thanks for all the work you do on here, seriously.) Blythwood (talk) 22:05, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Oh, yeah, that article. Shit, someone found out I was white. I tried to be nice... If you'd seen the article, you'd know it was eminently deletable--it could easily have been read as an attack page. Well, too bad. I guess she'll have to get a career the old-fashioned way, like, make a record and sell many copies of it. Drmies (talk) 22:49, 17 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hello. Why do you "believe this is synthetic"? There are numerous reliable sources which examine the subject as a whole. Stas (talk) 00:07, 18 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• The title itself already suggests synthesis. The rest is at Talk:Civil_volunteer_movement_helping_Ukrainian_forces_in_the_war_in_Donbass#Merge. Drmies (talk) 00:35, 18 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

You left a note. That I should login when editing. Sorry didn't realize I wasn't loge in.

The wiki app has some problems due to recent wiki app updates or Android updates. Previously I didn't get loged out or it auto loged me in what ever.

A note on the human varifacition dialog would help. Not relizing I wasn't loged in I just thought it was something new in the update.

The recent wiki app update is not displaying edit changes after saving. Edits are there in edit mode and in preview. They eventually show up some number of hours later.

Another problem. When editing and I switch to another app. The wiki app is locked up. A had to kill it and restart the edit.

This is the case with both versions of the app. I am using a Samsung Note 4.

Can you see that the app's developers are made aware of these problems.

ThinksSteamerandy (talk) 18:04, 18 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• I have my own set of problems with the app, and with the mobile version; I'm not sure if I understand all your problems, but I do know that I have no answers to any queries. Cullen328, maybe you know some answers? Drmies (talk) 20:41, 18 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Perhaps you might know how to report problems. I tried the links given in the app description in the app store. But found no further links to report bugs.Steamerandy (talk) 21:39, 18 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
  • Try Wikipedia:Help desk, I think. Good luck, Drmies (talk) 21:52, 18 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
    • I think Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) would be a better address. The Help Desk is more like a general information desk of sorts. De728631 (talk) 22:26, 18 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
      • Steamerandy, De72etc. is one of many people who know a lot of things better than me. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 23:25, 18 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
        • I am a non-conformist, and use the desktop site on my smart phone, which works fine for me. That avoids all problems with the mobile apps and mobile site. I explain my contrarian views at User:Cullen328/Smartphone editing. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:10, 19 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
          • I use both; sometimes I don't know which one. Actually, I use all three--the app, and both desktop and mobile version. It gets very confusing: one of them doesn't do autocorrect. The app is really weird with sections; I think it doesn't show "===" level divisions with an edit button. Typos are easily made and if you screw up you usually have to start all over again. Cullen, I admire your zeal. Drmies (talk) 13:01, 19 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
            • That's me. Mr. Zeal. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:22, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
              • …from Zeal Monachorum. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 09:31, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi, you said you'd archive the User Page Protection request. I can't find the archive here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection/Rolling_archive . I'd really appreciate it because I archive everything here: http://2016-dem-primary-fraud.wikia.com/wiki/User_Page_Vandalism_and_Lockout . So I need your last comment - made almost in conjunction with the thread's removal - so I can archive it for my personal records on this matter. Thanks again. Michael Sheflin (talk) 21:12, 18 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• You can archive everything you want by clicking on "history". This particular archiving operation went by way of the deletion of content. You will have noticed by now that I just deleted your user page, which seems to have been used only a. to retain inappropriate content; b. to attack other Wikipedia users; c. to serve as some kind of political forum. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 21:17, 18 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

MediaKill13 (talk) 08:42, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• I do? Drmies (talk) 12:03, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

It didn't come? You know I've tried sending mail to myself, but it hasn't arrived either. What could be the problem? MediaKill13 (talk) 12:21, 21 June 2016 (UTC) (edit: I recently changed my email address; can this cause problems in email delivery?)Reply

Probably got intercepted by the CIA. Drmies (talk) 14:27, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Can checkusers determine if an email was sent? And if you can, could you check if it actually sent? MediaKill13 (talk) 14:37, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

No. Read your email. Drmies (talk) 14:38, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

It didn't appear. Would this be an appropriate issue to take to the village pump? Forgive all the questions, I'm a relative newbie. Thanks for putting up with me MediaKill13 (talk) 14:50, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

(talk page stalker)...either you changed your email adress, but did not change it in your preferences here in wikipedia...or you could have a look in the spam folder... Lectonar (talk) 14:53, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Well, I sent you two of em. Maybe they're rerouted through the NSA server in outer space; I'm sure they'll show up shortly. Take care, Drmies (talk) 14:53, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

"Reggae Boyz" is the most ignorant nick name I have ever heard. The Jamaican National Team is from Jamaica, yes. This does not mean that they are in any way affiliated with the genre of music entitled "Reggae". It is just flat out unintelligent and ignorant to refer to this football team as the "Reggae Boyz", not to mention incredibly annoying to hear anyone say. By the way, these are fully grown men. I'm sure they appreciate being called "Boyz", especially with the dumbass way to spell it. I am not "vandalizing" your stupid citations and references, I am simply correcting this nick name for the sake of everyone. Jamaicans in particular, whom I imagine sure love being constantly labeled and treated as if they are all Rastafarians who listen to Reggae music. Stop. They are not the "Reggae Boyz". They are the Jamaican National Football Team. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.8.18.156 (talk) 16:02, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• (talk page stalker) Maybe you should take it up with the Jamaica Football Federation- their website uses the nickname, and "Reggae Girlz" for the women's team. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 17:11, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Yeah, what Xanthomelanoussprog says. Personally I think it's an outrage that anyone buys Meghan Traynor's music and I'd remove her articles, but reliable sources disagree with me. Drmies (talk) 20:42, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• (talk page stalker) There is hope after all. RickinBaltimore (talk) 20:43, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• List of national association football teams by nickname- there's some really dreary names in there (if Belarus' nickname Nacionalnaya Sbornaya means "National Team" then Russia's old nickname Sbornaya is just "Team" (the new nickname is "Tou-losers" apparently)). Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 21:28, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• I'm rooting for the Golden Lilies--that's a cool name. I remove some tripe but there's plenty there. Weltmeister der Freundschaftsspiele is obviously a sneer; there's two reliable sources for it on the entire Internet: that makes it very doubtful, but I've never been a big fan of Honey so I'll add the sources and leave it. Drmies (talk) 21:53, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

* Clearly none of y'all went to Virginia women's colleges. Reggae Girlz would destroy any of us on name cred alone. Julietdeltalima (talk) 22:02, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Hmm. I don't think I've ever even been to Virginia! West Virginia, sure. How would y'all fare against the Golden Lilies? Drmies (talk) 22:06, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
• Well, "vixens" isn't all that peaceful (the word's origin is fascinating, as any linguist can tell you). "Sweet Briar"...what a lovely name. Drmies (talk) 22:07, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• One of my high-school classmates said she applied there on precisely that rationale alone. Me, I'm part of the alumnae mafia of their sister school that remains the only NCAA institution without an actual mascot. "What do you yell out at... um...?! ... swim meets?!" people ask me; college name, and colors! There was actually a referendum about this in '88 when I was an undergrad and a capital campaign was underway, and the overwhelming vote was to remain mascot-less. But "Golden Lilies" is delightful and if this ever comes up again I am really chuffed to be able to bring this up! - Julietdeltalima (talk) 22:14, 21 June 2016 (UTC) (whose signature color isn't accidental)Reply
• (note as well that there is an obvious reason we're named after our first big-time donor and not the person who actually founded the school...)

• Remaining mascot-less is a wonderful option. Our resident hipster and professional student-demonstrator, Cullen328, no doubt agrees. Did you see the Madagascar mascot? Drmies (talk) 23:01, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• If the name is plastered all over the team's website, is it a nickname or an official name? Sorry, OP. I recently demonstrated my ignorance of the game at another venue, so I will say no more. As for my professional protester status, my student days ended 35 years ago, and I was paid a tiny fraction of the salary of a Wikipedia administrator. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:01, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

  What was y'all's nickname, Cullen? I just discovered List of college football stadium video boards. You're never to old to run into utter silliness. Julietdeltalima, I suppose you all didn't have football? Drmies (talk) 02:05, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Nope. Field hockey and an equestrian program. Rural women's colleges tend to spend their scoreboard money on horse stables rivaling/exceeding the dorms for comfort. Julietdeltalima (talk) 15:38, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• My nickname is "Barea the Zebu". Catchy, huh? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:15, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• I didn't know what a zebu was, but thanks to Wikipedia I now know that Brazilian beef cattle are interbred with them- so that 48 ounce steak at Wetherspoons is two-thirds a "mild and peaceful animal...ufed in the Eaft Indies for drawing coaches and for riding." (Google digitisation haf a lifp). Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 06:23, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

  Brr. A 48 ounce steak? Are the Brits that crazy too? Drmies (talk) 12:52, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Sorry, missed a decimal point out- 4.8 ounce steak. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 13:03, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Do you do self-requested blocks? If so, please block my useraccount (not the IP) for a month with the blockreason: "self-requested block: enjoy your wikibreak!". I have some stuff to do. Thanks in advance, (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 00:16, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Sure--if you confirm to me you're sure sure. Drmies (talk) 00:19, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
• User:The Quixotic Potato, you also need to tell me if you want the full service. For the same price I can offer removal of talk page and/or email access, and a deep-tissue massage. Drmies (talk) 00:41, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Confirmed. You can leave TPA and email open. A deep-tissue massage sounds nice actually! I've never had one of those. As you may or may not be aware we potatoes don't have hands. If you promise to make three terrible potato-related puns (or improve the Shetland Black-article, whatever you prefer) this month I will donate an extra 25 euro to a charity. My clients set my deadlines so I'll have a busy month; I don't wanna be distracted by people who are wrong on the internet. (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 16:16, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

You got it. Drmies (talk) 16:40, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Can we get the deep-tissue massage à la carte, or does it only come with a block? :/ ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 16:43, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Yes, and it was just a joke--potatoes have no depth unless roasted. Drmies (talk) 16:55, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
  • And how does one describe an angry potato? Boiling mad. Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 18:29, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
    • ha ha ha. Good start to my night, reading this exchange (and the kiss pic too). Xender Lourdes (talk) 02:53, 23 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your help. Please, would you edit the first two paragraphs with neutral point of view preserving the information? I would be grateful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.105.226.24 (talk) 00:54, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Eh, no, of course not. Do you not understand why you were blocked, and the article protected? You can talk it over with your counterpart on the talk page. Drmies (talk) 01:04, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
• Sorry for the inconvenience. The block was useless, because my counterpart used a inative account for two years. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brazilian_Army&type=revision&diff=726412875&oldid=726409853 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.105.226.24 (talk) 04:40, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
• See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Unbaratocha — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.105.226.24 (talk) 04:41, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
• Well, aren't you glad then that I protected the article. Drmies (talk) 12:50, 22 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I'm almost sure it's sent now MediaKill13 (talk) 05:58, 23 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I think your template for PrivateThoughts was in error; it says that the sanction was enacted under the India-Pakistan decision. I know what you meant, obviously, but you know how strict DS is with their template requirements, and I can't correct it myself because that would be interfering with a DS without consensus. The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 15:26, 23 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• The Wordsmith, you're absolutely right. But the user has removed the warning already; what do you suggest I do? I'll leave a message, but I don't want to replace something they removed because I made an error. Drmies (talk) 01:19, 24 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• I think a quick note indicating the typo on their talkpage, and a link to that diff noted in the log, would probably satisfy the record-keeping requirements. If they choose to appeal, there's no reason to give them an argument based on a technicality. The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 01:51, 24 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

• I think this DS is in error altogether. I've never seen someone topic banned under a DS over a few comments questioning a source's validity with strong reasoning why the source is misinformed. And PrivateThoughts actual article edits have been entirely constructive and have not been reverted for the most part. I saw a single reversion when they removed "rifle" from the name and they didn't fight it. None of their other edits have been contentious and they've made significant improvements to the article. I don't see how their behavior has impeded article progress and I think their talk page edits rise to the level of disruption. They are certainly heated and need to be reminded to tone it down, but they aren't disrupting anything.--v/r - TP 20:17, 23 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
  • Oh, I disagree, and the personal accusations didn't help either. But you will have noted that the topic ban was very limited in both time and scope. The AR business is all over the news, of course, and this is not the kind of disruption we need. The user was given a template that at least correctly indicated how to appeal the topic ban; you are more than welcome to assist them. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 01:22, 24 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
    • What disruption, though? Review his article edits, there is nothing political or disruptive in them and 95% of his edits have stuck without controversy. And one of the methods of appeal is to discuss it with the imposing administrator - which I am doing.--v/r - TP 01:26, 24 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
      • Talk page disruption. Come on--you saw it; I think in general we let things fester too long on such controversial topics where truthers are given too much slack. They're the one who should discuss it with the imposing admin, of course, and while I appreciate your advocacy (you know I do), I should hear this from them. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 01:36, 24 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for the kind comments, TParis. It is not much fun editing an article that's this political when you're trying to be objective. I have enough people hating me, and I'm tired of being trolled on the talk page. DRmies, as he points out, you have not read my contributions, nor have you read the talk page carefully. The protestations are about my accurate comments about the consistency of the "reliable sources". I can't help it that so many people have political agendas. I'll also note that I did not engage in edit wars, and merely pointed out the inconsistencies without changing the article. If you don't have the time or inclination to read what I've written or the talk page itself, go away.

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