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Line 3,026: ::I wonder if they're just short (single-contact) trills. Sources often call such things "flaps". ::BTW, the two of you might like [[Kelabit language]]. I just got access to the Blust article, and things are much more interesting than I expected. — [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 22:42, 12 August 2015 (UTC) == Proposed revision of MOSNUM re non UK and non US display of units of measure == Hi Joris, On 6 August you supported a proposal to clarify and tighten the rules about units of measurement in non-UK and non-US measures. The wording was this: '''In non-scientific articles relating to countries other than the US and the UK''', the primary units are metric or other internationally used units. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AManual_of_Style%2FDates_and_numbers&type=revision&diff=674810512&oldid=674808959]<blockquote>*'''Support''', and look for the best way to say it. Use the international units (first), unless there are good reasons not to. This comes down to non-scientific US-related articles and possibly UK-related article, though as pointed out above, SI units have been in use in the UK for quite some time now, which may actually be enough to warrant a SI-first-accompanied-by-non-metric system of unit presentation there. --[[User:JorisvS|JorisvS]] ([[User talk:JorisvS|talk]]) 08:31, 6 August 2015 (UTC)</blockquote> After further discussion, the following wording was proposed: <blockquote>* In '''all other articles''', the primary units chosen will be [[International System of Units|SI]] units, [[Non-SI units mentioned in the SI|non-SI units officially accepted for use with the SI]], or such other units as are conventional in reliable-source discussions of the article topic (such as [[revolutions per minute]] (rpm) for angular speed, [[hand (unit)|hand]]s for heights of horses, et cetera). </blockquote> The other articles referred to included non-US and non-UK articles and this wording received both support and opposition. The full wording can be found [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AManual_of_Style%2FDates_and_numbers&type=revision&diff=675135125&oldid=675133079 in this diff.] As you expressed your opinion a couple of days before this wording was devised it would be helpful if you could indicate whether you supported the later wording. If you could do so [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Support_and_Oppose here] it might help in decision-making. Best wishes, [[User:Michael Glass|Michael Glass]] ([[User talk:Michael Glass|talk]]) 07:11, 16 August 2015 (UTC) | |||