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:Sorry for the error. So much has been added and deleted and re-added and re-deleted that I lost track. [[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]] [[User_talk:Joyous%21|Noise!]] 17:05, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

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== I found a lost wiki user ==

I discovered that you reverted an edit on [[Chippy Simmons]] article by another user, however that user seems confused and left a Talk topic on [[User talk:Sohom Datta]] instead of replying to the topic you started on their talk page...

They seem to have their birth certificate and were looking for a way to provide proof.

What's even more confusing is that I was trying to cross verify this anywhere online, and I only find more conflicting dates.

[https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/1409973/2019/11/27/they-were-rascals-how-west-broms-bid-to-commemorate-every-player-led-them-to-uncover-the-complex-story-of-charles-chippy-simmons/ This] article is just a few day's off from this user's contribution. [[User:Colinstu|Colinstu]] ([[User talk:Colinstu|talk]]) 07:16, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

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== User talk:Archeologyispseudoscience ==

Blocked, some nasty stuff in the filter log. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 07:10, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

:Thanks! [[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]] [[User_talk:Joyous%21|Noise!]] 11:29, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

== Evasion ==

Hi, these IP address appears to be [[User:Xiaomichel|Xiaomichel]] evading the block, same style of changes: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.162.73.42] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/77.205.69.61]. [[User:JacktheBrown|JacktheBrown]] ([[User talk:JacktheBrown|talk]]) 16:28, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

== 'Ello Joyous ==

I'm a bit bored with reverting vandalism. Do you have any advice on where I could lend a hand? Or if any talk page stalkers can make any suggestions? Maybe need to keep in mind I'm a little slow on the uptake, but I get there in the end! Thank you. [[User:Knitsey|<span style="color:DarkMagenta">Knitsey</span>]] ([[User talk:Knitsey|<span style="color: maroon">talk</span>]]) 19:28, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

:Howdy, Knitsey! A couple of odds and ends I like dipping into:

*[[WP:WPM|Project Merge]] because some articles work better combined. The project pages looks intimidating, but it's not, especially if you have installed [[WP:Twinkle|Twinkle]].

*[[WP:ORPHAN|De-orphaning]] articles means finding articles with no incoming links (there's a list, you don't actually have to FIND them), and add links to that orphan in at least one other article, when possible.

If either of those sound interesting, I'd be happy to help you get rolling on them. [[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]] [[User_talk:Joyous%21|Noise!]] 20:07, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

:De-orphaning might be a good place to start. I did look at that some time ago but I wasn't sure about removing the tags side of it. I'm more confident about that now though. I could give that a go if you're willing to look at the first few I do just to make sure I'm doing it correctly? I will have another read through the process. [[User:Knitsey|<span style="color:DarkMagenta">Knitsey</span>]] ([[User talk:Knitsey|<span style="color: maroon">talk</span>]]) 20:15, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

::Happy to help. I remove the tag if I add even one incoming link. [[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]] [[User_talk:Joyous%21|Noise!]] 20:24, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

:::OK, I've read through the de-orphaning policy.

:::Look for a meaningful links, check categories, if I can add one or more links then use the de-orphan summary, remove the orphan tag using the de-orpaned summary.

:::Does the de-orphan summary/removing the orphan tag automatically remove it from the list or do I do that manually? Does removing the tag automatically generate a message to the page creator?

:::Thank you for helping me! [[User:Knitsey|<span style="color:DarkMagenta">Knitsey</span>]] ([[User talk:Knitsey|<span style="color: maroon">talk</span>]]) 20:48, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

::::Removing the tag removes the article from the list. No message is generated to the page creator, and there's no need for you to message them: it's just a "regular" edit. [[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]] [[User_talk:Joyous%21|Noise!]] 21:03, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

:::::Lovely, thank you. If I do a few tomorrow, can I just message you here so you can check my work and that I've done it correctly? I don't envisage problems, so just the first three that I do? I don't want to add too much to your work. [[User:Knitsey|<span style="color:DarkMagenta">Knitsey</span>]] ([[User talk:Knitsey|<span style="color: maroon">talk</span>]]) 21:09, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

::::::Any time! Truly happy to help! [[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]] [[User_talk:Joyous%21|Noise!]] 21:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

:::::::Well this isn't going great. I did [[5 November 1946 Vnukovo aircraft crashes]] which wasn't a problem. The next one I tried was [[Bloomage]]. I didn't need to do anything as links were already added but the orphaned tag was added after someone else added links. I then looked at [[Chang Wen-chen]] and again, the orphan tag was added even though someone added links. What am I missing. [[User:Knitsey|<span style="color:DarkMagenta">Knitsey</span>]] ([[User talk:Knitsey|<span style="color: maroon">talk</span>]]) 16:22, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

::::::::Bloomage has been changed now, it was an error. [[User:Knitsey|<span style="color:DarkMagenta">Knitsey</span>]] ([[User talk:Knitsey|<span style="color: maroon">talk</span>]]) 16:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

I don't think you're "missing" anything. The ones that already have incoming links from other articles...you're tidying those up by removing the tag. Possibly someone added the link to Article A from Article B, but never actually noticed the orphan tag sitting on top of Article A, so it never got removed. [[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]] [[User_talk:Joyous%21|Noise!]] 17:03, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

:OK, thanks for checking for me. I bet you regret me asking now lol. I feel confident about adding links and de-orphaning. If I run into any problems then I can always ask advice from the person adding the link. It's a nice break from anti-vandalism. You're a star, ty, [[User:Knitsey|<span style="color:DarkMagenta">Knitsey</span>]] ([[User talk:Knitsey|<span style="color: maroon">talk</span>]]) 17:51, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

::Not at all regretting. Enjoy! [[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]] [[User_talk:Joyous%21|Noise!]] 17:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

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== Question ==

I do not understand what you are saying regarding blocks and vandalism? I just spent the better part of 4 hours trying to add citations and additional information to a page that had a flag on it requesting it be cited better. Every historical data point I cited per APA and Chicago and I sourced to direct sources. what is the issue?+

Hi! Are you asking about the block notice? Or the copyright messages? [[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]] [[User_talk:Joyous%21|Noise!]] 00:03, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

== Does this look notable to you? ==

This article looks a bit sketchy to me.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Richard_Simkin&oldid=1244127606 Permanent link]

[[User:Kingsmasher678|Kingsmasher678]] ([[User talk:Kingsmasher678|talk]]) 05:58, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

:Awwww, it's right on the edge to me. I have raised an eyebrow, but I don't think I would AFD it if I ran across it on my own. [[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]] [[User_talk:Joyous%21|Noise!]] 21:43, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

::Cool, thanks!

::[[User:Kingsmasher678|Kingsmasher678]] ([[User talk:Kingsmasher678|talk]]) 23:21, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

== Appeal 2024 ==

Hi @[[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]]: I'm [[User:2RDD|2RDD]]. I've been editing Wikipedia for a year now and have made over a thousand edits. I'm passionate about maintaining article quality and combating vandalism. I believe Rollbacker rights would help me make a bigger impact. I'm eager to take on this responsibility and contribute to our community's mission. Thanks for considering my request! [[User:2RDD|2RDD]] ([[User talk:2RDD|talk]]) 10:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

:Hi, [[User:2RDD|2RDD]]. I don't feel comfortable assigning rollback rights for a couple of reasons. 1) I don't see any evidence from your contributions that you engage in much anti-vandal work, outside of a few specific articles that you've created or contributed heavily to. 2) I'm not convinced that you see a difference between "vandalism" and "edits that I don't much like on an article that I care about." Most of your edit reversions have no helpful explanation, and you rarely leave a comment on either the other editor's talk page, or on the talk page of the article itself. I'm sorry to have to decline. [[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]] [[User_talk:Joyous%21|Noise!]] 19:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

== Re: September 2024 ==

Hello @[[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]] Thank you for leaving me a welcome message. I would like to clarify that my edit was neither a test nor a misspelling. I changed "Argentinian" to "Argentine", because it's the most commonly employed demonym for people from Argentina and its usage is sometimes recommended over other alternatives (e.g., [https://www.npr.org/sections/memmos/2015/10/28/605684070/it-s-argentine-not-argentinian ], [https://www.governmentattic.org/12docs/StateStyleManual_2013.pdf ], [http://archive.li/wa18D ], [http://archive.li/2P11A ], [http://archive.li/OcJ73 ]). I would greatly appreciate it if you would reconsider leaving my edit in place. Once again, thank you. [[Special:Contributions/186.152.162.193|186.152.162.193]] ([[User talk:186.152.162.193|talk]]) 04:12, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

:So sorry for the error! Thanks for teaching me something. [[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]] [[User_talk:Joyous%21|Noise!]] 05:02, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

::No problem at all! I will restore my edit. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/186.152.162.193|186.152.162.193]] ([[User talk:186.152.162.193|talk]]) 05:44, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

== Pending Changes Reviewer ==

Hello,@[[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]],

I was wondering if I could get access to the pending changes permission. I've been hanging around for a while, and think I could help keep the backlog down a bit.

Thanks, [[User:Kingsmasher678|Kingsmasher678]] ([[User talk:Kingsmasher678|talk]]) 20:13, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

== [[User:2600:1700::/30|2600:1700::/30]] ==

Hi [[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]]! I'm messaging you to let you know that I just strengthened this range's block to a site-wide block and set it to expire one month for now due to [[Special:Diff/1244952759|this edit]] that I just caught. I'm letting you know about this because you had modified the block for this range that has still been ongoing. I'm not sure as to how extensive, related, or how frequent the past [[WP:VAND|vandalism]] from this range has been, but the previous block logs made it clear that stronger blocks would be imposed if shenanigans continue. Please know that you're welcome to modify, reduce, remove, strengthen, turn upside-down, - whatever you want to the block modification that I imposed. Just let me know and why; It would be good information in case this range pops up on my radar again. :-) Cheers - [[User:Oshwah|<b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b>]]<sup><small><b>[[User_talk:Oshwah|<span style="color:blue">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oshwah|<span style="color:green">(contribs)</span>]]</b></small></sup> 04:46, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

:Thanks for the heads-up. Pretty much never bothers me to have a block adjusted. I'll let you know if anything else goes on there that I notice. [[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]] [[User_talk:Joyous%21|Noise!]] 14:36, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

== You beat me to the block, but question... ==

"He1488il"? Username violation? If it's ''really bad'', please redact that. I'm trying to jumble the letters and numbers together to formulate what the username is saying... yeah I got nothing. Help? [[User:Oshwah|<b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b>]]<sup><small><b>[[User_talk:Oshwah|<span style="color:blue">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oshwah|<span style="color:green">(contribs)</span>]]</b></small></sup> 04:08, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

:[[1488]] [[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]] [[User_talk:Joyous%21|Noise!]] 04:09, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

== 2604:3D08:7A8E:C00::/64 ==

Hi, thanks for the block here. Would you consider extending it? The previous block was for 1 year (see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A2604%3A3D08%3A7A8E%3AC00%3A0%3A0%3A0%3A0%2F64 block log], which expired today at 16:12, and the vandalism started up again only a little more than an hour later at 17:33. I know some admins don't like to make longer blocks, but in this case, I don't think we'll ever see a constructive editor from the IP range (and /64 range blocks have pretty much no collateral damage). Would you consider extending the block to another year? Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/73.67.145.30|73.67.145.30]] ([[User talk:73.67.145.30|talk]]) 17:52, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

:{{Done}} [[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]] [[User_talk:Joyous%21|Noise!]] 17:55, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

== Pending Changes Reviewer Backlog ==

Hello,

Would you be able to respond to the (admittedly small, 3-person) backlog at [[Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Pending changes reviewer|Pending Changes Review]]? I don't mean to be impatient, but I would love to have this tool - it would allow me to further improve the encyclopedia. I saw you granted a request a few days ago.

Thanks so much!

[[Special:Contributions/199.111.212.29|199.111.212.29]] ([[User talk:199.111.212.29|talk]]) 04:57, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

:Just an FYI, you arn't logged in for this comment.

:[[User:Kingsmasher678|Kingsmasher678]] ([[User talk:Kingsmasher678|talk]]) 05:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

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