User talk:NIA777 - Wikipedia

Please refrain from inserting templates like you have been doing, it's disruptive and may result in you being blocked. Furthermore please stop mentioning that the MDBA is a commercial business, it's irrelevant to the article. In addition if you have any affiliation with the Australian National Kennel Club it'd be best to declare it now. Traumnovelle (talk) 11:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello, I am not an affiliate of ANKC. I have only had one email exchange with them about status of their pedigrees. I am an Australian Cobberdog owner and have done a lot of research about pedigrees and the structure of the MDBA. As a puppy owner I was under the impression that I received a pure bred pedigree. When presented it to my local council, my dog was not eligible to be listed as a Cobberdog because as a it is not recognised a breed. NIA777 (talk) 01:40, 20 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

It is my goal to clarify the organization of the MDBA, as there is a1. As a newcomer to Wikipedia, I am dedicated to providing valuable information that I believe is essential for the public to be aware of. I will make an effort to revise the content in a way that avoids any appearance of hostility. common misconception that it is a government-controlled regulatory body overseeing breeders. Many individuals purchase puppies under the assumption that breeders are being closely monitored, when in reality, they are not.

I am new to Wikipedia and am doing all that I can to offer information that I feel is important for the public to know. I shall try to reword the information without what looks like to be an attack. NIA777 (talk) 01:49, 20 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Generally speaking, that's all great. As a fellow Cobberdog owner and the primary author of the original page, I'd like to help clarify a couple things to help you make lasting, constructive contributions to the page and Wikipedia as a whole.

Number 1, use a reliable source on anything which could be seen as non-obvious. And be sure that the source is at the statement, at the end of the sentence, or at the very least by the end of that paragraph.

Number 2, although you may think or know that one could be confused by a company's status (i.e. MDBA as private), you also have to consider relevancy to the topic. In an MDBA article, there could be a whole section on the misconception if you found good sources to support the claim. However, neither MDBA nor this article claim to be a "government" agent. Additionally, it's important to think in multiple contexts. Most kennel clubs are private companies, managing dog breeds isn't usually a government function. So if an organization deems a dog breed a breed, then one can state as such.

Also, I don't think that's a "common misconception". They are a regulatory body but are very much not unlike any other club. Purebreeders aren't usually "carefully" monitored. Instead, they're spot checked and submit periodic DNA samples. Your dog wasn't eligible at the council before your council doesn't recognize the cobberdog, but that doesn't mean they aren't a pure breed.

In the end, the idea of a pure breed is quite subjective and most people aren't entirely familiar with how dog breeding actually works organizationally. If you have any questions on editing or how to implement your thoughts in a constructive way, let me or any editor know and I guarantee we'll be happy to help! Dionysius Miller^talk 02:43, 20 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your response. I appreciate the effort you put into creating a Wikipedia article about the Cobberdog. I noticed some statements in the article that may be subject to challenge, particularly regarding the breeds that make up a Cobberdog. In my experience, the MDBA has not disclosed this information despite my attempts to obtain it. I am curious to know who with authority has provided this information. It is crucial to educate people that they are not purchasing a purebred dog when getting a Cobberdog. The pedigree they receive is essentially a birth certificate that cannot be registered with any official body in Australia. Additionally, the information about the founders at the beginning of your article has been a topic of debate. argued otherwise.

However, I would like to express my gratitude for the dedication you have shown in creating a webpage that aims to enlighten individuals about the Cobberdog breed. NIA777 (talk) 06:33, 20 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

I would like to again note that registration with the Australian government is not a prerequisite for recognition as a dog breed. Organizations such as the American Kennel Club are private companies too. I would ask that you please take great care in your future edits. Dionysius Miller^talk 17:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. 2A00:23C5:50E8:EE01:79FB:BC74:BEDF:FF0C (talk) 11:37, 19 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Your addition to Australian Cobberdog has been removed or altered, as it appears to closely paraphrase a copyrighted source. Limited close paraphrasing or quotation is appropriate within reason, so long as the material is clearly attributed in the text. However, longer paraphrases which are not attributed to their source may constitute copyright violation or plagiarism, and are not acceptable on Wikipedia. Such content cannot be hosted here for legal reasons; please do not post it on any page, even if you plan to fix it later. You may use external websites or printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

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  Please stop your disruptive editing.

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