User talk:Okip: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

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*Who is this directed at Okip. If you want an unblock you need to use the unblock template. [[User:Spartaz|Spartaz]] ^{''[[User talk:Spartaz|Humbug!]]''} 09:38, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

==Note at top==

Okip, you want to have a note at the top stating "if you have a concern or problem with something Okip has done, please make an effort to discuss the situation with Okip's mentor, Jclemens (talk · contribs), before taking or requesting administrative action. Taking this step can greatly reduce the drama levels normally associated with this sort of concern, and is much more likely to come up with a result that leaves everyone happy. "

However, ''you'' should have the reflex to discuss things with your mentor first before posting them, when you fear that you posting them will have the effect that "By me attempting to help you by giving you advice, I am now back on their enemies list too, and they will "take offense, sometimes called "mock outrage"" by threatening me too. Unfortunatly this is the [[modus operandi]] of most veteran editors here. I will soon be getting threatening messages on my talk page, and if I continue to help you, I will be thrown into the dispute resolution process, where these close net group of editors will throw all manner of false and trumped up accusations against me." You have a mentor, and you believe in advance that some post you are making will get you into trouble: then why don't you consult your mentor first? You shlouldn't try to hide behind a mentor when you don't take any steps yourself first in being mentored. The mentor is there for you, someone to discuss potentially problematic edits with before you actually make them. His function is not to protect you from admins. [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 11:46, 12 April 2010 (UTC)