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::Oh, I think I'd like to give P a chance to respond. If he doesn't - but contributes elsewhere - I'll take it to the RS noticeboard. [[User:Novickas|Novickas]] ([[User talk:Novickas|talk]]) 21:00, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

:::Because I am always willing to help when asked, I've ensured now that all proposed hooks are referenced with reliable sources, per DYK requirements. External websites are certainly not perfect references, but sometimes they are all we have. Of course, this is not a desirable situation, and such an article will not progress beyond B-class (at best) till sources are improved. To end, in this case, republika.pl, by itself, is not unreliable - it is just a hosting service. The article is hosted on pages of a local sports association, doesn't seem to have any controversial claims, and some facts are corroborated by more reliable sources. I doubt that RSN will tell you anything different.

:::That said, I'd appreciate it if you were to stop following me around, as I asked you several times prior. There is a point where such an approach stops looking very friendly, and I believe that our mutual relation could benefit from both of us trying to avoid commenting too much ~~one~~on one another. You are of course welcome to report problems with Poland-related articles to [[WT:POLAND]], just try to avoid saying Piotrus-this or Piotrus-that. You know, [[WP:NPA|discuss content, not editors]]. I will be more than happy to help out in various situations when asked here, ~~particularly~~too, ~~where~~but try to frame such requests for ~~help~~assistance so they don't contain veiled PAs or ABF (for example, in "may not care at this point" - I'd prefer if you'd avoid speculation on what I care about or don't).

:::PS. How are you doing with fixing your image uploads? --[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus| talk ]] 21:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

::::I don't think free web hosts should be used as WP references at all and I think this is generally accepted - per [[WP:Reliable sources]], 'Questionable sources are those with a poor reputation for checking the facts, or with no editorial oversight.' I take it you don't wish to bring this up at the DYK. BTW, feel free to nom any of my image uploads for deletion. [[User:Novickas|Novickas]] ([[User talk:Novickas|talk]]) 214:27 pm, ~~24 January 2011~~Today (~~UTC~~UTC−5)

:::::{{ec}} There is little to raise at DYK. You could remove all the poor refs, but the hooks are referenced, and articles can be DYKed without each non-hook sentence being referenced (although I do prefer to see everything referenced). It is not our custom (even if [[WP:V]] would suggest otherwise) to remove unreferenced content, and I think that given a choice between no refs and poor refs, poor refs are usually kept. As I said, this becomes important when we move from start/C class to B/GA. I am not sure what else could be said about this issue.

:::::Regarding your images, I'd prefer to give you a change to fix them first. Perhaps at some future time I may find a will to look at your uploads again and give you a list of specific problems, particularly if you request me to do so (frankly, I'd prefer to avoid looking at your edits, particularly since I am asking you to focus less on following my person). For now as friendly comment, I just want to note that most if not all of your uploads I did not tag as Copy-to-Commons may have some issues that could result in the being deleted from Commons if they were moved there. --[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus| talk ]] 21:59, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

== DYK for Bivariate analysis ==