User talk:Raikkonen - Wikipedia
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-- By the way, please disclose your alternate accounts on your userpage. Evidently, User:Hakkinen is also you. Are there other accounts? As "Hakkinen" you once said you were a "multinamed" user from the Finnish Wikipedia, but neither Hakkinen nor Raikkonen have any edits there. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:37, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
- I have no active alternate accounts and I haven't been editing the English Wikipedia anywhere else but on this account for the past 15 years or so - so I don't know what you're talking about. I've never been banned and I'm not sockpuppeting, I'm simply not a very active editor anymore but this should not be making my input any less valid than yours. Please, instead of attacking me as a person, try to focus on my arguments. I want to collaborate and improve an article and all I've been getting from you is hostility. Raikkonen (talk) 08:49, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
- "Anywhere else but on this account"? The "Hakkinen" account was last used on 9 September 2020 [1], and on and off at least a couple of times every year since 2005. Are you seriously denying that's also you? Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:57, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
- As I said, I don't know what you're talking about. That name sounds familiar from the past, as does yours, but that's about it. Also, what is that banner supposed to mean? Are you seriously threatening me for having requested specific citations? I'm not the one who's not following policy - you are - and you know it very well. You don't respect NPOV and you're not being civil with me from the start. You can ban me on the spot for all I care since you have that power - if that's what it takes to silence other editors then by all means go ahead. Raikkonen (talk) 09:01, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Raikkonen. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:14, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
- You just posted a huge text and removed it. I don't have the slightest idea what that was nor why you posted it here and then removed it. I assume you have mistaken me for another editor who has given you a hard time in the past but I can assure you that it's got nothing to do with me. I don't know what happened in the past 15 years and frankly, it does not concern me. I'm not a regular editor (I'm too busy to be one) and I'm not planning to give you or anyone else a hard time. I'm not a POV-pusher nor any of those things you have assumed about me. I play by the rules and I'm in search for the truth. If it turns out that I'm wrong, I'll just back off. If it turns out that I'm right but can't do anything about it, I'll still back off because my time is precious. So instead of obsessing on trying to get me banned I urge you to focus on the discussion at hand. As I said, you can ban me on the spot if that's what it takes to have your way. This will end your problem but you will quickly discover that I was never the person you thought I was (as you will never hear from me again). Raikkonen (talk) 12:33, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
- Just to clarify, the big textdump I removed on this page was not from me but from a banned harassment sockpuppeter, who likes to spew their nonsense all over the place wherever I go. Nothing to do with you, so don't worry about that (but please revert them if they try it again; they're banned.) About the other thing, I still find it hard to believe you are actually tring to deny the Hakkinen account is yours; it's so damned obvious it's the same person. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:40, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
- It isn't me. If it's someone I know (or knew) is not something that I'm obliged to share with you. Raikkonen (talk) 13:04, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
- Just to clarify, the big textdump I removed on this page was not from me but from a banned harassment sockpuppeter, who likes to spew their nonsense all over the place wherever I go. Nothing to do with you, so don't worry about that (but please revert them if they try it again; they're banned.) About the other thing, I still find it hard to believe you are actually tring to deny the Hakkinen account is yours; it's so damned obvious it's the same person. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:40, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
- You just posted a huge text and removed it. I don't have the slightest idea what that was nor why you posted it here and then removed it. I assume you have mistaken me for another editor who has given you a hard time in the past but I can assure you that it's got nothing to do with me. I don't know what happened in the past 15 years and frankly, it does not concern me. I'm not a regular editor (I'm too busy to be one) and I'm not planning to give you or anyone else a hard time. I'm not a POV-pusher nor any of those things you have assumed about me. I play by the rules and I'm in search for the truth. If it turns out that I'm wrong, I'll just back off. If it turns out that I'm right but can't do anything about it, I'll still back off because my time is precious. So instead of obsessing on trying to get me banned I urge you to focus on the discussion at hand. As I said, you can ban me on the spot if that's what it takes to have your way. This will end your problem but you will quickly discover that I was never the person you thought I was (as you will never hear from me again). Raikkonen (talk) 12:33, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
- Out of sheer curiosity, I had a look at the removed textdump. It appears you have had a long history of disruptive behavior and attitude problems. How you still get to be an admin is beyond me, but the fact is that I don't want to be part of your history. Unless you apologize for your offensive comments, I don't wish to be addressed directly by you and I won't respond to any of your queries except those related to article content. Raikkonen (talk) 15:31, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply