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:I understand your concerns regarding the sourcing/info on [[Sanctioned Suicide]] as I am. The first thing that caught my eye it how it says the Australian guy being supposedly bullied into suicide on the page for is a subscription paywall service so I don't even know how I could verify that, I tried to look into that source but it's paywalled and it's very dubious that happened anyway as it doesn't line up with any of the attitudes of the regular users on there. Did the person who leave that source have a New York Times subscription? cuz I certainly can't verify this. Also it's disingenuous to proclaim a community of people are telling their users to kill themselves when they really aren't. Even if Vice or some hitpiece site like that makes that claim does it have to be noted? Why not just avoid the "encourage" part when it's easily debunkable. I cannot find a single screenshot of anything like that occurring, and once I found a person asking if OP planned to film their death and they were immediately called unruly and insensitive by other users. [[User:Second Skin|Second Skin]] ([[User talk:Second Skin#top|talk]]) 22:29, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

::The NYT paywall is bypassed if you use [https://web.archive.org/web/20230208212154/https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/12/09/us/where-the-despairing-log-on.html the archive link] listed in the citation. It supports the claim in our article: {{tq|When an Australian disclosed that he had become suicidal because of persistent behavioral problems, several members taunted him. “Maybe he/she can film it,” wrote one person, joining others in sarcastically calling for popcorn for a viewing. Weeks later, the young man took his life.}} In any case, if Wikipedia is making easily debunkable claims, then I highly encourage you to add into our article the reliable sources debunking them. Wikipedia should not be hosting anything that is easily debunkable by reliable sources. [[User:Shells-shells|Shells-shells]] ([[User talk:Shells-shells|talk]]) 00:15, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

== October 2023 ==

[[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|30px|link=]] You currently appear to be engaged in an [[WP:Edit warring|edit war]]  according to the reverts you have made on [[:Death metal]]. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to [[Wikipedia:Consensus#In talk pages|collaborate]] with others, to avoid editing [[WP:Disruptive editing|disruptively]], and to [[WP:Consensus|try to reach a consensus]], rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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# '''Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;'''

# '''Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.'''

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