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Line 425: One of the reasons I felt clarity of the guidelines was important is evidenced here [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Organic_food&diff=642670065&oldid=642669844]. It is quite interesting to see the activity the essay has provoked. <font style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">[[User:Atsme|Atsme]]</font><font color="gold">☯</font>[[User talk:Atsme|<font color="green"><sup>Consult</sup></font>]] 14:02, 4 April 2015 (UTC) :ok, let's talk about the reasons for the essay shall we? What is up with all the stuff about MEDRS in this essay? Atsme, you wrote that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SlimVirgin&diff=next&oldid=654806955 you have little experience on medical articles in WP], and as far as I know you have not worked on COI issues in WP. :What is described in the essay are ways that members of WP:WikiProject Medicine keep [[WP:FRINGE]] material out of Wikipedia. This essay seems driven in part by your content dispute over FRINGE content (the use of [[amygdalin]] as a cancer treatment in the article about [[G. Edward Griffin]]) - (where I am no longer active except for a recent RfC vote, but you are still very active). ::In that article, you been trying for months now to remove MEDRS-sourced content critical of the use of [[amygdalin]] as a cancer treatment, and instead to write more positive content [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AG._Edward_Griffin&diff=641596425&oldid=641593751 based on sources like naturalnews.com]. For opposition to you efforts, see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive187#G._Edward_Griffin this discussion at BLPN], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard/Archive_44#G._Edward_Griffin this discussion at Fringe noticeboard], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard/Archive_45#G._Edward_Griffin this additional discussion at Fringe noticeboard], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_183#RfC_related_to_reliable_sourcing_at_G._Edward_Griffin this discussion at RSN], and innumerable discussions on the article Talk page. including a current RfC there. :COI has '''never''' come up in that article. :your claim - highlighted in the quote box - that health-related articles are among the most conflicted ones in WP is not accurate in my experience, and discredits the essay. In the opinion of others who are experienced in these matters, such as {{u|Smallbones}} (see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJimbo_Wales&diff=582245063&oldid=582243366 here] for example) and {{u|DGG}} (see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DGG&diff=next&oldid=654536597 here]), other subject matter fields are far more rife with COI editing. SV disagrees with that as well, as far as I can tell from her comments above. :In the discussion about developing this essay, you [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SlimVirgin&diff=next&oldid=654705154 wrote] about how policy is used to "censor" content on the basis of MEDRS. [[G. Edward Griffin]] is known for promoting conspiracy theories - for example, that the medical establishment has conspired to suppress amygdalin. Hm. :I'll end this by noting that the promotion of amygdalin as a cancer treatment is actually called '''quackery''' in the reliable biomedical literature (PMID 219680). There is quacking here, but it is not financially-driven editing, but rather advocacy a way to personally attack editors who uphold policies and guidelines. [[User:Jytdog|Jytdog]] ([[User talk:Jytdog|talk]]) 15:31, 4 April 2015 (UTC) | |||