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With respect to [[2022 in heavy metal music]],

~~llmortals~~AFAIK, [[IllMortals]] is still in work and Totem by [[Soulfly]] does have an article. [[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]] ([[User talk:Jax 0677|talk]]) 10:58, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

== John 5/Rob Zombie ==

Hello @[[User:TheSickBehemoth|TheSickBehemoth]] - I noticed you changed John 5 back to current members for Rob Zombie. I believe this to be inaccurate. If you look at John 5's biography on his website, it states that he has left to join Motley Crue as a live/touring guitarist; "John 5 continued to work with Zombie until Fall 2022....In October 2022, it was announced that John 5 would be joining Mötley Crüe as live guitarist following the announcement that Mick Mars would be retiring."[https://john-5.com/main/biography/].

Also I believe that Mike Riggs taking over guitar for the Oct 6 Aftershock Show with Rob Zombie is an indicator. I don't think John 5 has ever missed a show w/Zombie and from his Instagram he was on holiday with Tommy Lee around the same time.

You also mentioned "until it's officially announced". I checked back on Rob Zombie's website for the last band member to leave - Tommy Clufetos - and there was no news on the site making that official announcement. In fact the only two official announcements seem to be noting that Joey Jordison would be playing drums in 2010 [https://robzombie.com/2010/06/the-drums-remain-the-same/] and in 2011 when Ginger Fish took over [https://robzombie.com/2011/04/the-new-zombie/].

Lastly, according to news reports (and checking their own Instagram follows), Zombie and 5 are no longer following each other.

I suppose we will see if John joins Zombie in December when he plays with Alice Cooper [https://robzombie.com/2022/10/rob-zombie-to-play-at-alice-coopers-christmas-pudding-fundraiser-concert-this-december/] but given one no show and the recent statements, I'm guessing this won't happen.

Happy to wait for your thoughts but do think we can assume that John 5 is now a former member. [[User:EmmaJL5|EmmaJL5]] 15:17, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

:Hello @[[User:TheSickBehemoth|TheSickBehemoth]] - Just following up as I have had no engagement with you in regards to your changes to the Rob Zombie line-up and I've noticed you've again reverted a change back by another user to showing John 5 as the current guitarist. I agree that it is too soon to say if Mike Riggs is taking up guitar in a more permanent role, but as I laid out in my initial post, even the official John 5 website biography is saying he has left the band (Rob Zombie).

:I believe we need consensus on this to stop revert back and forth so will take this to the Rob Zombie talk page and hopefully we can get some input ron others moving forward.

:Hope to hear from you soon. [[User:EmmaJL5|EmmaJL5]] 14:03, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

::Hello, sorry about the lack of response; Wikipedia did not notify me you left an initial message on my talk page; it just notified me of your follow up.

::With regards to the John 5/Rob Zombie status, it just boils down to finding a reliable source from either artist stating that John 5 had left Rob Zombie's band, though I don't think either party has addressed this matter yet. I competely agree with you that Riggs being added is also incorrect; he did perform live recently with Zombie, but that does not mean he has returned to the band as a full-time member. However, nothing (other than the blurb on John 5's website) has been announced that John 5 is officially out just yet, either. In my opinion, leave the members section as is with John 5 in it until an official statement is out. [[User:TheSickBehemoth|TheSickBehemoth]] ([[User talk:TheSickBehemoth#top|talk]]) 17:31, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

:::Hello @[[User:TheSickBehemoth|TheSickBehemoth]], thank you for getting back to me. As I noted, previous departures of members of Zombie's band were not announced via a statement from the band (most recently before 5 was Tommy Clufetos). In fact Zombie did not mention it for a number of months until it came up in an interview I believe (an example article here: https://www.metalsucks.net/2010/08/09/rob-zombie-squashes-ozzy-osbourne-beef/ and here: https://www.loudersound.com/features/rob-zombie-q-a). But it was never announced formerly on Zombie's site. I also looked for an official statement announcing Blasko's departure from the band to be replaced by Piggy D and apart from interviews in the years after, there does not appear to be an official band statement from Zombie in this regard, so there is a history from the Zombie camp of not making these announcements.

:::As for "other than the blurb on John 5's website" - I took the quote from the official biography on his website which details his career and it says he "continued to work with Zombie until Fall 2022". That suggests finality. And it's most recent update was October 2022.

:::I do understand what you're saying and do get the caution but I don't completely agree. Especially in light of previous departures and the fact that the John 5 official bio has stated working with Zombie as now in the past. I believe it would be good to see what the wider community also thinks so we can at least get a consensus on it. That way we can all have peace of mind and it will make it easier for people to make edits on band members going forward. [[User:EmmaJL5|EmmaJL5]] 12:55, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

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== Recent Edits to Buckcherry ==

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== 2 new death in 2023 ==

the actual drummer of Artillery died after being hit by bus and Jim Durkin of Dark Angel died on 8 March 2023 from unknown cause [[Special:Contributions/151.67.212.104|151.67.212.104]] ([[User talk:151.67.212.104|talk]]) 22:15, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

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