User talk:Top Gun: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

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* The tactic of using a phrase such as "god-awful quality" to back up ones block is a bit suspect. If you're going to use it though, it would be polite to at least link to it. It might be a good idea to have a quick look through TopGun's edits up to the point he got involved in the conflicted editing with Captain Obvious on the Battle of Tskhinval article (for example 10th August and before) as I think editing done by someone ''during'' an edit conflict can almost by definition be characterized as god awful.

* The ANI was archived. It's final state was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=231525644#Need_some_help_here this]. [[Special:Contributions/92.12.57.108|92.12.57.108]] ([[User talk:92.12.57.108|talk]]) 14:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

::::I was never involved in sockpuppetry, not two years ago and the investigation then concluded that and not even now. I put the 200 number as an educated guess and was not lying about the source because other news reports said about 20 soldiers died in ariair strikes so I assumed that at least 180 died in the Battle of Tskhivanli, as for the copyvio I explained my position in my apeals and obviously no Administrator is wanting to belive me because of my previous mistakes of 18 months ago and I have apologised to every Administrator out there. And even promised not to edit or start any more Wikipedia articles except for the Lists of Afgha and Iraqi security forces fatalities, Iraqi insurgent fatalities and Somali war timeline and on occasion the infoboxes of battles articles. And the Administrators can check up on me from time to time to see if I am keeping true to my word. Also I don't understand why you Biophys and Moreschi cut down the block of Captain Obvious from a week to two hours and extended mine from three days to indefinetly , he was edit warring as much as I did. It's completly unfair. Just because you felt sad for Capaint Obvious and thought I was some evil bad guy is no reason for doing this. Except for that one sentence of copyvio all of the paragraphs I added to the battle of Tskhinvali were not actualy my edits at all, some other user added them a few days before but Captain Obvious removed them from the article for no reason since they were all referenced. I reinserted them and when I confronted him he said it was all Rusian propaganda. I was of the opinion Rusian propaganda or not pointes of view of both warring sides had to be taken into account. But he continued pushing his pro-Georgian point of view.(Top Gun) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Top Gun|Top Gun]] ([[User talk:Top Gun|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Top Gun|contribs]]) 14:54, 14 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

The reasons for blocking this guy are disgraceful. The other user has a history of vandalism, harrasment and personal attacks. If you take a look at TopGuns contributiopns, you will see a bunch of very benign "little" casualty figures-related edits. His actions now can NO WAY be reasons for an indefinite. (''Didn't know where to comment his block)'' --[[User:TheFEARgod|<font color="#003399">The'''FE'''</font><font color="red">'''AR'''god</font>]] ([[User talk:TheFEARgod|'''Ч''']]) 21:30, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

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#Top Gun rarely joins that article's Talk page and when he does, he never signs his comments properly with four tildes. (He does not even sign properly on this Talk page).

#There is a lot of discussion of Top Gun's copyvios at [[Talk:Battle of Tskhinvali]] and you should try explaining those as well. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 22:00, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

::I already said this and will say it again, I put the 200 number as an educated guess based on the reference I provided (which said 200 dead during the conflict) and was not lying about the source because other news reports said about 20 soldiers died in air strikes so I assumed that at least 180 died in the Battle of Tskhivanli as the majority of the fighting in Ossetia happened in the city, as for the copyvio I explained my position in my apeals, I just wanted to copy-paste the sentence from the reference into the article to have a bases for rewording the text so it shouldn't be a copyvio and be appropriate for the article. I reverted Captain Obvious because he was removing large chunks of text from the article claiming it to be Russian propaganda. First of all I didn't put that text there but I didn't agree Captain Obious vandalising the article that way, all of those sentences were referenced. Just because the references were coming from the Russians or the Ossetians was no reason to remove them. At the very least both sides point of view in the battle had to be pointed out. Captain Obvious was obviously pushing his pro-Georgian point of view and he was calling not just me but other users as weel names.[[User:Top Gun|Top Gun]]