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Line 95: ::I'm happy to continue this discussion if anyone has more that they want to discuss, but I'm going to request that Jytdog and Atsme direct any further comments to me, and not to one another, and also not to seek any tit-for-tat. --[[User:Tryptofish|Tryptofish]] ([[User talk:Tryptofish#top|talk]]) 22:53, 15 July 2015 (UTC) :::Appreciate the input, Tryptofish. I've read many good things about you and regret that our initial interaction is over this COINOSCOPY but I appreciate your attempts at <s>medication</s> mediation. {{P|smile}} My providing diffs were to support my comments. The only thing I'm following are PAGs because without diffs my comments may be misconstrued as casting aspersions. While I understand the point you're trying to make, I don't think it was a good comparison considering Jytdog dug into my PL off-wiki, including personal domain registrations in his failed attempt to prove the conspiracy theories he developed for his 4th of July fireworks display. Also keep in mind that the evidence I recently uncovered, some of which is provided above, further demonstrates the case he initiated truly was unwarranted. I just want a review of the close so it will properly reflect that the case against me was mishandled and unwarranted based on the recent findings. If you can help me get that done, there's no need for me to open a case at ANI. Do you think that's possible? Jytdog also owes me an apology for what he did, which brings up another problem - he rarely if ever progresses beyond striking his ill-conceived, ill-intentioned comments but even then the strikes are viewed more as a CYA than regret because he keeps doing it. He indicated the following to me months ago, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Atsme&diff=prev&oldid=641891937], and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Atsme&diff=prev&oldid=641817333 January 9, 2015], {{xt|We have different goals with respect to our work here, and different views on PAG I don't care at all about "gold stars" like GA/FA or DYK (I just want to create good and maintain good content in WP, per PAG, as I see it) and those seem important to you.}}. As ''he sees it'' is where the problems lie. Perhaps it also explains why he used COIN to target the GAs and FA I edited in a GF collaborative effort - he saw them as "important" to me. :::I guess the big question now is, can we believe his behavior will change? I think that each time he walks away unscathed he becomes a little more emboldened but I sincerely hope I'm wrong. Unfortunately, discussions like the following demonstrate otherwise: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Domestic_violence_against_men&diff=prev&oldid=671613261], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Domestic_violence_against_men&diff=next&oldid=671616884]. For stark differences in the way he sees things, compare his actions over [[Gabor B. Racz]], a GA that was criticized by certain team collaborators as "promotional", "puffery", poorly written, etc. vs his actions at [[David Gorski]], and regarding the latter, notice the section on Skepticism which is clearly promotional of Gorski's advocacy (be it a good advocacy or not). Look at the TP discussions and you'll see which article is protected by "team collaborators" which looks a lot like an advocacy to me. It doesn't require a rocket scientist to figure it out. Also notice how Jytdog added an unwarranted recruiting label on Gorski [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:David_Gorski&diff=670455132&oldid=670444471], based on another of his conspiracy theories and unwarranted warning of canvassing against me because I mentioned Gorski in an unrelated discussion [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tsavage&diff=prev&oldid=670461387]. Wow. While I'd like to believe Jytdog's recent posts to various admins and editors are a sincere attempt to self-analyze, I think the following comment in response to Jytdog's excuses sums it up best, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Serialjoepsycho&diff=671148299&oldid=671146414]. At this point in time, I'll stick with "cautiously optimistic" and hope that I'm pleasantly surprised. <font style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">[[User:Atsme|Atsme]]</font><sup>[[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 20:04, 16 July 2015 (UTC) == Winding up == | |||