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*'''Support''' Editor is clearly not here to build an encyclopedia that is NPOV. --[[User:Tarage|Tarage]] ([[User talk:Tarage|talk]]) 18:05, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

*'''Support''' site ban for EJustice for, in effect, misusing students as meat puppets to edit Wikipedia in a manner contrary to fundamental policies as variously explained above. Also to prevent subsequent unfortunate classes of students to be so misused. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Sandstein|<font style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">'''&nbsp;Sandstein&nbsp;'''</font>]]</span></small> 19:21, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

*'''Oppose''' a siteban, for two reasons: a) it wouldn't really address the problem (see below), and b) it would allow him to claim martyrdom - to say he was banished from Wikipedia because we are all just biased against his field of study. This editor displays one of the most profound cases of [[WP:IDHT]] I have ever seen. This is due to his passionate beliefs about his subject matter, and his conviction that anyone who objects to his pushing those beliefs is doing so out of bias and thus can be ignored. (The fact that Wikipedia has had an article about [[Environmental justice]] since 2005 would seem to disprove bias, but that's his story and he's sticking to it.) For this reason I very much doubt if he could ever become a constructive and neutral WP editor. On the other hand, this isn't really about his personal editing, of which he did a minimum - AFAIK none to actual articles. This is about his sending students here to edit at his direction. Several experienced Wikipedians, including some academics, have volunteered to work with him over the summer to see if they can get him to understand Wikipedia's guidelines and abide by them. I commend them for their willingness to try this, but I seriously doubt it will be effective. At most, I suspect that EdChem and the other well-meaning editors will just teach him to pretend neutrality and keep his urging of advocacy out of site - to do it in lectures and emails rather than where we can see it. I think what we need is not a personal siteban of him, but a '''ban on his use of Wikipedia in any future classes'''. I'm not sure how to enforce that, but IMO that is what is really needed here. I see that is more or less what Goldenring proposed below, and I see it got a lot of opposes, but I urge people to take another look at that concept. --[[User:MelanieN|MelanieN]] ([[User talk:MelanieN|talk]]) 19:27, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

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