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*The nature of the request, the lack of clarity, the unexplained urgency, all this makes me quite uncomfortable. Apteva seems to be rushing to put out a fire that doesn't exist. I've never had a bad experience with them, but this isn't even 6 months from the last request, which itself was rather muddled. I am guessing I'm not the only one with these types of reservations, based on how few are participating. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<b>2&cent;</b>]] 11:34, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

**I agree. I still don´t understand how the listed restrictions prevent Apteva from adding charts to articles. Also, he keeps saying he logs out to work around the restrictions, which would seem to me to be ban evasion. Is there some kind of language barrier at play here?--[[User:Atlan|Atlan]] ([[User talk:Atlan|talk]]) 13:55, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

:::No I have never wanted to or evaded in any way any restriction, and have allowed Wikipedia be worse by doing so. I rarely edit Wikipedia today other than to put into place the charts and images that now occupy almost all of my editing, and update solar articles. I have a backlog of over 6,000 SVGs that have been requested and another 6,000 SVGs to be translated. And that is in addition to the new works that I have created (about 1,700 out of 1,800). Most of the solar articles need to be updated monthly or annually as it is a rapidly changing field.

:::The reason we allow alternative accounts is because they are necessary. Which means that I can not properly participate. The reason we allow changing dashes to hyphens and vice versa is the MOS requests that. I can not properly edit articles to make them conform to the MOS. I can not appeal these restrictions for six months because someone wants Wikipedia to be worse and not better. This appeal was started long after the six months was up and was archived twice because no one responded. And if you do not think that correcting factual information or correcting hyphens to dashes is not important, why are you even here? The urgency is there is an article on a subject that would greatly benefit by way of illustration from using a chart that was not uploaded using this alternative account and I would like to be able to insert it using the same account that uploaded it (it is PD and I did not create it). [[User:Apteva|Apteva]] ([[User talk:Apteva|talk]]) 17:17, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

*'''Oppose''' - the answers to the questions above are too concerning. I remember the disruption that led to the block, and it was a series of enormous time sinks. At the heart of it was always "I am right, you are all wrong, and you simply do not understand why I need to be allowed to do whatever I like, in order to make the changes that I have decided wikipedia needs." When blocked, the argument became "you are hurting wikipedia, because you are not allowing me to do whatever I like, in order to make the changes that I have decided wikipedia needs." In the responses above Apteva indicates that they still think they have never done anything wrong apart from a bit of accidental edit-warring as a newbie, and all the rest was caused by others not understanding how right Apteva was and not just letting them do whatever they had decided was correct. I can't support lifting these restrictions in that case, since I am too concerned that their view on what happened in the past is so divorced from the reality of things. I was hoping their answers might make me less concerned, but sadly they did the opposite. Sorry. --<span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#004d80;"> [[User talk:Begoon|Begoon]]</span> 15:16, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

::It seems that if you are concerned about my answers you are simply not understanding them, probably because they are way too long, and you do not see the value of someone with the username lets call it FooFoo, creating 1800 charts and putting them into an article using that username instead of an alternative username, say FuuFuu other than in article that FuuFuu is editing (it would be a perceived sock violation to use FooFoo)? Please I implore you to allow me to edit using my primary username, instead of making me use "FuuFuu". The least you could do is unblock my primary account and allow me to use it. As you can see this one is tagged "not in use" (other than to reply here). I do not wish to have the block moved as there is no reason to do that, as doing so would simply mean that I would not be able to edit the 150 or so solar articles that I update from time to time. Out of the last 15,000 edits I have probably made 1,000 using this alternative account and it is simply not practical for me to use "FuuFuu". Slows me down way too much to have to every time I want to edit here log out and log in again, and simply prefer to use only one username when possible (the exact same thing that Wikipedia prefers), and these restrictions do only one thing, prevent me from properly improving Wikipedia. Not only are restrictions not supposed to do that but are prohibited from doing that. It would not make any sense to have restrictions that only hurt the development of the encyclopedia, which all of these clearly do, which is why it is urgent to remove them. The idea that I was a sock was brought up simply because I created a graphic in my primary username, as I almost always do and to avoid '''being''' a sock put it into the article using the same username that had been editing that article. But then someone clicked on the chart (clicking on a chart is relatively rare - while the charts I have created are viewed over a '''''million''''' times each day, far far fewer click on them), and with no basis for doing so accused this perfectly legitimate, and necessary, alternative account of being a sock which I am not and never have been. I always have and always will follow all guidelines and policies to the best of my ability. When I broke 3RR I had no idea it existed, and a warning would have been much better for Wikipedia than a block. Thanks. [[User:Apteva|Apteva]] ([[User talk:Apteva|talk]]) 17:17, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

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